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Old June 24th 19, 08:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

Firefox v67.0.1
Windows 10 Home x64 build 1809

Seems I either have to allow retaining of all cookies or purge them all.
I have experimented with the cookies settings, and the only way to get
cookies retained at a couple sites is to allow retaining all cookies.

In the past, I thought Firefox had exception list for cookies which
would be retain even though you configured Firefox to delete cookies on
its exit.

This sucks: keep all cookies or purge all cookies. I cannot find an
exception list to the exit options that delete cookies. All articles
that I've read about setting up cookie retention in Firefox results in
keeping all cookies or purging them all. Can't find an exception list
to the clear-on-exit feature.


Note: I know about the mozilla.support.firefox newsgroup. Its
moderator, Chris Ilias, has destroyed that newsgroup with his bias.
Plus it is firstmost an e-mailing list with an NNTP gateway. You
submit, you get status back saying it was accepted (i.e., no error), but
their e-mailing list setup is buggy and your submission disappears.
With NNTP, the returned status is immediate during the session to let
you know if there was an error. With Mozilla's setup, passing the
article to an e-mail server disconnects from the NNTP server, so any
failure on the e-mail side occurs too late and the poster will never
know there was a problem. Doesn't look like Chris Ilias handles the
failures on the e-mail side of their mailing list.
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Old June 24th 19, 10:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:37:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Firefox v67.0.1
Windows 10 Home x64 build 1809

Seems I either have to allow retaining of all cookies or purge them all.
I have experimented with the cookies settings, and the only way to get
cookies retained at a couple sites is to allow retaining all cookies.

In the past, I thought Firefox had exception list for cookies which
would be retain even though you configured Firefox to delete cookies on
its exit.

This sucks: keep all cookies or purge all cookies. I cannot find an
exception list to the exit options that delete cookies. All articles
that I've read about setting up cookie retention in Firefox results in
keeping all cookies or purging them all. Can't find an exception list
to the clear-on-exit feature.



A. Some years ago when I used to have exceptions to retain some cookies, I did it like this.

1. Configure Firefox settings to keep cookies across sessions.
2. Visit the sites I want to keep cookies for.
Firefox saves all these cookies with a lifetime longer than current session.
3. Next, change Firefox to keep cookies only for current session.
What this did was that any new cookies were given a lifetime no longer than
current session. However, existing cookies with longer lifetimes
still retained their lifetimes and were not deleted at end of session.
4. Finally, go into settings and delete the cookies I did not want to keep.



B. In my current Firefox 67.0.4 (although I no longer use cookie exceptions)
I see these choices:

1. If I visit a site and right-click View page Info Permissions
there is a site permissions option "Set Cookies" with four choices
* Use Default
* Allow
* Allow for Session
* Block

2. At "Tools Options privacy & Security", to the right of
"Cookies and Site Data" there is a button "Manage Permissions"
which appears to give you the options "Allow for Session" and
"Allow" on a site-by-site bases.

IIRC as well as setting "Allow", you might need to temporarily
turn off "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed"
while you get those cookies set in Firefox.


AIUI there are a couple of zero-days out in the wild. You really should
upgrade to 67.0.4.


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Old June 24th 19, 12:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:36:44 +1200, Ralph Fox
wrotG:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:37:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Firefox v67.0.1
Windows 10 Home x64 build 1809

Seems I either have to allow retaining of all cookies or purge them all.
I have experimented with the cookies settings, and the only way to get
cookies retained at a couple sites is to allow retaining all cookies.

In the past, I thought Firefox had exception list for cookies which
would be retain even though you configured Firefox to delete cookies on
its exit.

This sucks: keep all cookies or purge all cookies. I cannot find an
exception list to the exit options that delete cookies. All articles
that I've read about setting up cookie retention in Firefox results in
keeping all cookies or purging them all. Can't find an exception list
to the clear-on-exit feature.



A. Some years ago when I used to have exceptions to retain some cookies, I did it like this.

1. Configure Firefox settings to keep cookies across sessions.
2. Visit the sites I want to keep cookies for.
Firefox saves all these cookies with a lifetime longer than current session.
3. Next, change Firefox to keep cookies only for current session.
What this did was that any new cookies were given a lifetime no longer than
current session. However, existing cookies with longer lifetimes
still retained their lifetimes and were not deleted at end of session.
4. Finally, go into settings and delete the cookies I did not want to keep.



B. In my current Firefox 67.0.4 (although I no longer use cookie exceptions)
I see these choices:

1. If I visit a site and right-click View page Info Permissions
there is a site permissions option "Set Cookies" with four choices
* Use Default
* Allow
* Allow for Session
* Block

2. At "Tools Options privacy & Security", to the right of
"Cookies and Site Data" there is a button "Manage Permissions"
which appears to give you the options "Allow for Session" and
"Allow" on a site-by-site bases.

IIRC as well as setting "Allow", you might need to temporarily
turn off "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed"
while you get those cookies set in Firefox.


AIUI there are a couple of zero-days out in the wild. You really should
upgrade to 67.0.4.



Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.
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Old June 24th 19, 12:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

Ralph Fox wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:37:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Firefox v67.0.1
Windows 10 Home x64 build 1809

Seems I either have to allow retaining of all cookies or purge them all.
I have experimented with the cookies settings, and the only way to get
cookies retained at a couple sites is to allow retaining all cookies.

In the past, I thought Firefox had exception list for cookies which
would be retain even though you configured Firefox to delete cookies on
its exit.

This sucks: keep all cookies or purge all cookies. I cannot find an
exception list to the exit options that delete cookies. All articles
that I've read about setting up cookie retention in Firefox results in
keeping all cookies or purging them all. Can't find an exception list
to the clear-on-exit feature.


A. Some years ago when I used to have exceptions to retain some cookies, I did it like this.

1. Configure Firefox settings to keep cookies across sessions.
2. Visit the sites I want to keep cookies for.
Firefox saves all these cookies with a lifetime longer than current session.
3. Next, change Firefox to keep cookies only for current session.
What this did was that any new cookies were given a lifetime no longer than
current session. However, existing cookies with longer lifetimes
still retained their lifetimes and were not deleted at end of session.
4. Finally, go into settings and delete the cookies I did not want to keep.

B. In my current Firefox 67.0.4 (although I no longer use cookie exceptions)
I see these choices:


That's the problem: there are no longer a list of cookie exceptions.

1. If I visit a site and right-click View page Info Permissions
there is a site permissions option "Set Cookies" with four choices
* Use Default
* Allow
* Allow for Session
* Block

2. At "Tools Options privacy & Security", to the right of
"Cookies and Site Data" there is a button "Manage Permissions"
which appears to give you the options "Allow for Session" and
"Allow" on a site-by-site bases.


I've disabled all the cookie purge options. I visit the sites with
cookies that I want to keep (only 2, so far: DuckDuckGo and Startpage).
To create the cookies, I have to configure the settings for these sites
differently then their defaults. I go into menu - Settings - Privacy
& Security - Cookies and Site Data (yep, Mozilla has now merged
management of both under the same settings because they consider their
users too stupid to understand cookie management), and click on Manage
Data. I see the list of cookie of which there are those for the sites
that I configured them differently than their defaults.

Under Manage Data, I cannot specify expiration of cookies (which is now
only grouped by hostname or domain - you are shown how many cookies
there are but you can no longer access them individually). I can only
remove a domain along with ALL of its cookies.

If I go under Manage Permissions, Startpage and DuckDuckGo are listed,
but they were previously manually added by me. You cannot select a
domain (and all its cookies) under Manage Data to have them added to
Manage Permissions. You have to manually enter the domain under Manage
Permissions. You can't even copy the entry under Manage Data to then
paste into Manage Permissions.

All permissions does is decide *if* a site can create cookies or not.
Block, Allow for Session, and Allow are the only choices. That's not to
decide which cookies to retain, only which domains are allowed to create
them. Back under Manage Data is where the cookies are listed.

With all cookie deletion options disabled, yeah, the cookies for
StartPage and DuckDuckGo are listed (when they create their cookies) but
then every other site gets to save their cookies, too. When I exit and
reload Firefox, and because the cookie delete options are disabled,
every cookie from everywhere is still in Firefox, not just the cookies
for Startpage and DuckDuckGo.

If I enable any of the cookie delete options, yep, the cookies get
deleted. On a reload of Firefox, none are listed under Manage Data, not
even the ones for Startpage and DuckDuckGo. My choice is to save ALL
cookies or delete ALL cookies. There is no whitelist or exceptions.

I don't want to save all cookies. I want to only save 2 of them and for
specific domains. Mozilla seems to have removed the ability, if it ever
existed, of purging all cookies except those in a whitelist.

https://cdn.comparitech.com/wp-conte...es-privacy.jpg

That shows the cookie settings that used to exist, like Keep Until and
an Exceptions list (but I don't it was an exception list to the
purge-on-exit option to delete cookies). All the cookie settings have
disappeared.

Pretty sad state of Firefox that I have to hunt for an extension to
perform the cookie management that Mozilla refuses to permit.

IIRC as well as setting "Allow", you might need to temporarily
turn off "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed"
while you get those cookies set in Firefox.


I've tried that. I'd get the sites to create their cookies. I had to
manually enter them in Manage Permissions (because Firefox won't let me
select them from the Manage Data list of existing cookies). In Manage
Permissions, I'd select Allow on the domain (which now encompasses all
cookies for a domain) and click Save Changes. However, that isn't an
exception to deletion. Once any of the options to delete cookies on
exit are enabled, both the Manage Data and Manage Permissions lists are
emptied.

Trying to not keep dozens of cookies but just keep a couple doesn't seem
something Firefox can do. It's an all or nothing deal. Wonderful.
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Old June 24th 19, 12:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

Howard wrote:

Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.


That's just it: there is *no* Exceptions setting. How can I except some
cookies from the delete-on-exit options when there is no exception list?

Also, under menu - Options - Security & Privacy - Cookies and Site
Data - Manage Permissions, that is not a whitelist or exceptions list.
That is merely an enable list: what to do *if* a site wants to create a
cookie. It is not for deciding which cookies to /keep/, especially to
override the delete-on-exit settings that would get rid of cookies.

What version of Firefox are you using and under what OS?
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Old June 24th 19, 05:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On 6/24/19 2:37 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Firefox v67.0.1
Windows 10 Home x64 build 1809

Seems I either have to allow retaining of all cookies or purge them all.
I have experimented with the cookies settings, and the only way to get
cookies retained at a couple sites is to allow retaining all cookies.


I've been doing that (purge cookies on exit, with exceptions) for as
long as Firefox has allowed it. To set an exception:

Go to Preferences, "Privacy & Security" tab, look for "Cookies and Site
Data" and click the "Manage Permissions" button.

OR

Go to the page you want to make an exception for, select "View Page
Info" from the right-click menu, "Permissions" tab. Fine the "Set
Cookies" item.

OT: Tomorrow is Leon Day (samtsirhC yrrrem)

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Old June 24th 19, 07:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:30:34 -0400, Howard wrote:

Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.



I do not see an "Exceptions" in the "History" section.

Screen-shot: https://i.imgur.com/lqsbkks.png

Latest Firefox release version 67.0.4 (as per previous post).


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Old June 24th 19, 08:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

Mark Lloyd wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Firefox v67.0.1
Windows 10 Home x64 build 1809

Seems I either have to allow retaining of all cookies or purge them all.
I have experimented with the cookies settings, and the only way to get
cookies retained at a couple sites is to allow retaining all cookies.


I've been doing that (purge cookies on exit, with exceptions) for as
long as Firefox has allowed it. To set an exception:

Go to Preferences, "Privacy & Security" tab, look for "Cookies and Site
Data" and click the "Manage Permissions" button.

OR

Go to the page you want to make an exception for, select "View Page
Info" from the right-click menu, "Permissions" tab. Fine the "Set
Cookies" item.


Apparently Firefox got into some screwed up state when I was testing. I
had added the sites to Manage Permissions, but when I clicked Save
Changes the dialog window did not disappear as it should. I had to use
the "X" button in the window to close it. Perhaps that discarded my
changes instead of saving them. Save Changes wasn't working. Sometimes
there were no sites listed in Manage Permissions, and sometimes there
were. Also, when I visited a site and clicked on the circled "i" icon
at the left of the address bar to save per-site settings, all that did
was take me to aboutreferences#privacy which is the same as navigating
using menu - Options - Privacy & Security. You don't get to a window
or page just for that site; i.e., you don't a per-site settings page.
You have to manually enter the site in Manage Permissions.

Today the Manage Permissions was working for its Save Changes button.
I'd enter the site's URL, click Allow, and clicking Save Changes closed
that window. However, unlike under Manage Data, you have to enter the
complete URL for the site under Manage Permissions, not just a FQDN
(fully-qualified domain name), like https://www.startpage.com/. Manage
Permissions says, "Type the exact address of the site". If I just enter
the domain, like startpage.com, and click Allow, what gets put in the
list is http://startpage.com. That seems wrong since the site uses
HTTPS, not HTTP.

Once I got the URLs added to Manage Permissions (which says "websites
are always or never allowed to use cookies" which is wrong if its
purpose is really "block sites from creating cookies or whitelist
them"), I started to restore the delete-on-exit settings. The first one
reenabled was right in the Cookies and Site Data section of
aboutreferences#privacy called "Delete cookies and site data when
Firefox is closed". I exited and reloaded Firefox and the sites list
under Manage Permissions was still populated, and cookies created by the
site listed in Manage Permissions were retained across Firefox session.
So far, so good. The next place was the History section in
aboutreferences#privacy. I have it configured to "Use custom settings
for history" because I don't want all of that saved across Firefox
sessions; however, I had unset the Cookies and Site Preferences from
getting cleared since I needed to know if Manage Permissions would work
in the first place. Under History cleanup, I don't see what the
difference is between it purging cookies on exit using that setting
versus the "Delete cookies and "Delete cookies and site data when
Firefox is closed" under the Cookies and Site Data section. Looks to be
duplicate settings. In History cleanup, I reenabled just cookies to
purge them on exit. I exited and restarted Firefox. All cookies were
gone, including the ones listed in Manage Permissions.

Manage Permissions still has the sites listed, the "Delete cookies and
data when Firefox is closed" under Cookies and Site Data seemed to work
to get rid of all cookies except the ones listed in Manage Permissions,
but History cleanup of cookies wipes all the cookies, so I lose the ones
that were "whitelisted" in Manage Permissions.

I also found clearing Site Preferences under History was also wiping the
sites list under Manage Permissions. Despite Manage Permissions being a
whitelist, the history cleanup doesn't give a gnat's fart about those
exceptions and eradicates them. Mozilla makes this very confusing with
a whitelist that another setting doesn't honor and instead erases, and
two settings to delete cookies where only one is exceptioned (by Manage
Permissions) while the other (under History) doesn't honor the whitelist
and deletes the whitelisted cookies. All this similarly named settings
and some honoring and some ignoring the whitelist (and one wiping the
whitelist) is very confusing. What should be better named, better
presented, and bugged in not honoring or wiping the whitelist makes it
very hard for users to get it all right -- just to retain specifically
identified cookies! This isn't cookie management. It's mismanagement.

So, I did another test to see if I could really get Firefox to retain
the cookies from *just* the whitelisted sites under Manage Permissions,
and cookies from all other sites would get purged on exit. I reentered
the sites under Manage Permissions in the Cookies and Site Data section
of aboutreferences#privacy and clicked Save Changes. Under that same
section, the "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed"
option was enabled. Under History w/custom selected, cookies and site
preferences were deselected. I visited the sites where I wanted to save
their cookies (and made them create cookies by changing their page
settings). Those showed up under aboutreferences#privacy using Manage
Data. I visited lots of other sites that create cookies. Manage Data
showed their cookies existed.

In fact, there were new cookies from lots of sites that I never
visited, so the visited sites are creating cookies for other domains
to allow tracking if you happen to visit those other sites, and why I
used to set cookie permission to visited sites only but that level of
control was removed by Mozilla. You can no longer restrict cookie
creation to those only for a visited domain, but you no longer have
the option to block cookies created for a 3rd party. Wonderful
concept: remove control over cookie management from the users. What
sphincters are the devs!

So, now I have cookies from those that I want to keep across Firefox
sessions, cookies from other sites that I visited, and 3rd party cookies
the visited sites created for other domains (for tracking). I exit and
reload Firefox. I go to aboutreferences#privacy and go to Manage
Data. All cookies got deleted except for the ones listed in the Manage
Permissions whitelist. Working as I want: keep cookies from whitelisted
sites but no cookies kept from non-whitelisted sites.

So, what the hell is the cookie option for under History to clear on
exit? Under Cookie and Site data, if whitelist sites under Manage
Permissions and enable the "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is
closed" setting there, the Cookies and Site Preferences settings under
History to clear on exit should get disabled or disappear; else, they
override and even wipe out the Manage Permissions whitelist.

Under History for cleanup on exit, leaving Site Preferences deselected
means more than just having it not wipe the Manage Permissions whitelist
that is just for cookies. There are other permissions that I don't want
to retain across Firefox sessions, like Location, Camera, Microphone,
and Notifications. I might want to allow some of those permissions when
visiting a site but not across Firefox sessions. To keep from erasing
the cookie-only Manage Permissions whitelist, I have to now keep ALL
permissions (cookies, camera, location, etc) across all Firefox
sessions. This sucks.

The reason I selected to get Site Preferences cleared on exit is there
is a known exploit in Firefox where that feature, when enabled, can be
used to track your web surfing across Firefox sessions. There was a
test site to prove this, but it is gone. That doesn't mean Firefox
fixed it.

https://arstechnica.com/information-...-of-web-users/
(which linked to the proof-of-concept site that showed the
vulnerability, but it no longer exists)

I don't know that Mozilla patched Firefox to remove the vulnerability.
That the POC site disappeared doesn't mean Mozilla addressed this bug.
Back then, the only way to get Firefox to block the tracking was to
delete Site Preferences on exit.

Plus, I don't want to save all Site Preferences on exit. In fact, I
don't want to save any, but I don't want clearing Site Preferences to
wipe the Manage Permissions whitelist which has to do with cookie
management (which Mozilla has mostly removed from Firefox). Firefox
used to be the better web browser for cookie management. No longer.

The problem with all this globalizing of settings is removal of
granularity in control from the users. You don't get to select which
type of site preferences to include or not include under History/custom.
You only get to clear ALL site preferences, including the cookie
whitelist (Manage Preferences) despite there is a separate Cookie
setting under History/custom. Since both cookie and site preferences
are categories of cleanup under History/custom, the entire Cookie and
Site Data section should get moved into the History section, but move to
sub-options under Cookies and Site Preferences. Yep, in History/custom,
you could elect to delete cookies on exit, but suboptions would let the
user decide if those in the whitelist (Manage Permissions) would be
excepted from cleaning. Under Site Preferences, well, use suboptions to
let the user decide WHICH ones to keep or which to delete on exit.
Seems the devs wrote the config screens to match the order of their code
in the program rather than use logical grouping of options with
subgrouping of inter-related or dependent options.

So, now my decision is:
- Do I deselect Cookies under History/custom for cleanup on exit, and
just use the "Delete cookies and site data on Firefox close" option
under Cookies and Site Data? That's doable since it appears all
non-whitelisted cookies do get deleted on exit.
- Do I deselect Site Preferences under History/custom just to keep the
cookie whitelist (Manage Permissions) from getting erase on Firefox
exit, but end up saving ALL other site preferences? I only want to
retain the whitelisted cookies, not retain all [other] site
preferences.

To keep cookies for whitelisted sites across Firefox session, I have to
allow Firefox to stay dirty with site preferences. To keep a couple
Oreo cookies in my shirt pocket, I have to stop changing clothes each
day, or sooner. I reek but, gee, I've got my Oreos. What a sucky
compromise.
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Old June 24th 19, 09:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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VanguardLH wrote:

The reason I selected to get Site Preferences cleared on exit is there
is a known exploit in Firefox where that feature, when enabled, can be
used to track your web surfing across Firefox sessions. There was a
test site to prove this, but it is gone. That doesn't mean Firefox
fixed it.

https://arstechnica.com/information-...-of-web-users/
(which linked to the proof-of-concept site that showed the
vulnerability, but it no longer exists)


By the way, in trying to find my old Usenet post via Google Groups (to
find the cited article) about how Firefox allowed session tracking via
HSTS until its Site Preferences got erased, Google Groups failed on
searches ("There was an error performing the search") when using
Firefox. I about two or three dozen reloads of the search page, I once
got past their professed error (more likely a deliberate nuisance to
non-Chrome visitors). Worked okay in Google Chrome (no reloads needed).

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/vanguardlh$20firefox$20site$20preferences$20tracki ng
works in Google Chrome
fails in Firefox

I had Firefox as my primary web browser before for several years.
Switched to Google Chrome. Considering this problem along with the lack
of decent cookie management and now-missing cookie options, I'm leaning
toward going back to Chrome.
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Old June 24th 19, 09:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Ralph Fox wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:30:34 -0400, Howard wrote:

Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.


I do not see an "Exceptions" in the "History" section.

Screen-shot: https://i.imgur.com/lqsbkks.png

Latest Firefox release version 67.0.4 (as per previous post).


That was back before Mozilla removed all the other cookie management
options. See:

https://cdn.comparitech.com/wp-conte...es-privacy.jpg

Remember back when you had all those cookie options (Keep until,
Accept/Block 3rd party) and Exceptions (which got renamed to Manage
Permissions which increased user confusion over that option does)?
There used to be more cookie options in Firefox and which made it one of
the better web browsers. Back then you didn't need to install
extensions for cookie management in Firefox. Mozilla took away those
options to dumb-down their product, yet they added Content Blocking
(with a custom level to add more content types to block).

Pretty sad when Google Chrome has better cookie management (and easier
to understand) than Firefox has now.

As for an Exceptions list or button under History, maybe that depended
(in an old version of Firefox) on which mode you selected: Remember
history, Never remember history, or Use custom settings for history. If
there were an Exception option under History, it was likely only
available if you elected "Use custom settings for history".

I suspect Howard is using an old version of Firefox that still had the
cookie management options and some Exception option (or is referring to
what is now confusedly named Manage Permissions). Could be he chose to
refuse to update to a later version of Firefox. Could be is using an OS
that Firefox refuses to support beyond some version (e.g., FF 52.9.0ESR
is the last version that support Windows XP - yet the OP is responding
in a Windows 10 newsgroup).
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Old June 25th 19, 12:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On 6/24/19 1:47 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:30:34 -0400, Howard wrote:

Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.



I do not see an "Exceptions" in the "History" section.

Screen-shot: https://i.imgur.com/lqsbkks.png

Latest Firefox release version 67.0.4 (as per previous post).


That's where it used to be. It's "Cookies & Site Data" now. Sounds like
a more obvious place.

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Old June 25th 19, 03:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaidy036[_5_]
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On 6/24/2019 4:40 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Ralph Fox wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:30:34 -0400, Howard wrote:

Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.


I do not see an "Exceptions" in the "History" section.

Screen-shot: https://i.imgur.com/lqsbkks.png

Latest Firefox release version 67.0.4 (as per previous post).


That was back before Mozilla removed all the other cookie management
options. See:

https://cdn.comparitech.com/wp-conte...es-privacy.jpg

Remember back when you had all those cookie options (Keep until,
Accept/Block 3rd party) and Exceptions (which got renamed to Manage
Permissions which increased user confusion over that option does)?
There used to be more cookie options in Firefox and which made it one of
the better web browsers. Back then you didn't need to install
extensions for cookie management in Firefox. Mozilla took away those
options to dumb-down their product, yet they added Content Blocking
(with a custom level to add more content types to block).

Pretty sad when Google Chrome has better cookie management (and easier
to understand) than Firefox has now.

As for an Exceptions list or button under History, maybe that depended
(in an old version of Firefox) on which mode you selected: Remember
history, Never remember history, or Use custom settings for history. If
there were an Exception option under History, it was likely only
available if you elected "Use custom settings for history".

I suspect Howard is using an old version of Firefox that still had the
cookie management options and some Exception option (or is referring to
what is now confusedly named Manage Permissions). Could be he chose to
refuse to update to a later version of Firefox. Could be is using an OS
that Firefox refuses to support beyond some version (e.g., FF 52.9.0ESR
is the last version that support Windows XP - yet the OP is responding
in a Windows 10 newsgroup).

Options Privacy & Security Manage Permissions


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Old June 25th 19, 05:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

Zaidy036 wrote:

Options Privacy & Security Manage Permissions


Yep, already mentioned; "or is referring to what is now confusedly named
Manage Permissions".
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Old June 25th 19, 08:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ralph Fox
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:03:31 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 6/24/19 1:47 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:30:34 -0400, Howard wrote:

Go into Options/Privacy & Security/History/Exceptions to Accept
Cookies from Websites and add the sites you want to block accepting
cookies from.



I do not see an "Exceptions" in the "History" section.

Screen-shot: https://i.imgur.com/lqsbkks.png

Latest Firefox release version 67.0.4 (as per previous post).


That's where it used to be. It's "Cookies & Site Data" now. Sounds like
a more obvious place.



Yes.


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Old June 25th 19, 08:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ralph Fox
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Default Firefox - How to add exceptions to cookie purging on exit?

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:44:18 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

I go into menu - Settings - Privacy
& Security - Cookies and Site Data (yep, Mozilla has now merged
management of both under the same settings because they consider their
users too stupid to understand cookie management)


Site storage is, effectively, mega-sized cookies without the size limit of
traditional browser cookies.


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