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  #31  
Old July 14th 19, 06:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default A monitor that doesn't flash "No Video Input" ?

Paul replied ( to me ):
Is there monitor that doesn't flash "No Video Input"
after you (supposedly) put the monitor to sleep ?
it should be optional.

I've no way of knowing which monitors don't do that, if any.


Why not crack the manual that came with your
fancy monitor, and see if it has a section about
the OSD, with what options are available.


I am well aware of every option on my current monitor;
there's no way to turn off the "No Video Input" thing.

It's not a big deal, as I can always point the monitor to the ceiling.
I think my next monitor is going to be quite a bit smaller (27"?);
so the corners aren't so far away, compared to the center.

First world problems.
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  #32  
Old July 14th 19, 06:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default My eyes don't like the surprise.

Mayayana replied ( to me ):
If you want the monitor off then why not just turn it off?


The problem with turning the monitor off/on is
the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.

No one talks about it, not even in the manuals.
I'm a strange duck, apparently; no one but me cares about it.

Or put the whole system in standby.
I don't see the point of putting only the monitor to sleep.


Bria v5, my Win10 soft phone, responds to incoming calls.

I might be asleep, for example, with the monitor powered-off,
when someone calls me. I answer the phone ( via a mouse button )
without turning the monitor on. My eyes don't like the surprise.
  #33  
Old July 14th 19, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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Default How to impede W10 from hibernating automatically?

On 13/07/2019 20.41, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 13/07/2019 19.30, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20.57, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:


....


Trying in the powershell, to see the output. Produces error 0x65b


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation.Â* An unexpected error (0x65b)
has occurred:Â* Function failed during execution.


....

Â*Â* "That error code 0x65b occurs if you try to run the command as a
standard user.

Â*Â*Â* You must open a Command Prompt or Powershell as an administrator"


Actually, I was logged in as the administrator. Maybe I have to
explicitly open the powershell as administrator.
[...]
Yes, it accepts the command. I will tell tomorrow if it worked ;-)


It did :-)


Why can not the program give a proper text message saying what the
problem is, instead of a f* number and a few lines of garbage?

What would be the trick with a batch file (with this command) to make it
run as administrator, right click and then run as administrator?


I would recommend you install a GUI program with click-able
radio buttons for the operating mode you desire.


Suggestions? :-)


powercfg /h offÂ*Â* is the kind of command you use for a permanent
fix, which would not be appropriate for a laptop really. It was
only offered as an illustration. Something more "nuanced" is
required to offer the proper degree of dynamic control.


I could have two batch files, one "on", another "off".



Perhaps psexec could be used. I only use this for one purpose,
and haven't tried a wealth of options on it. Maybe you could
craft a shortcut of some sort with it ?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...wnloads/psexec

For example:

Â*Â* psexec64 -hsi cmd.exe


-s Run the remote process in the System account.
-h If the target system is Vista or higher, has the process run with the account's elevated token, if available.
-i Run the program so that it interacts with the desktop of the specified session on the remote system. If no session is specified the process runs in the console session.

Ah. Like telnet or ssh to the desired user.


raises a Command Prompt window to SYSTEM authority.


I'll have a look later on.


Whatever you use, outside of Scheduled Tasks, is likely
to present a UAC prompt when it needs the Impersonate
privilege from the administrator group capability.


That's Ok.


*******

You can also have a play with this - "Runas" aka "Run As".

And a shortcut might have a place to specify the account used.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/pre...28v%3Dws.11%29


Â*Â* runas /user:localmachinename\administrator cmd


I can try that.

I tried this batch script:

echo off
runas /user:Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
pause


The admin in this machine has my name; "administrator" does not exist.

I get this response:



C:\Users\Carlos\Desktopecho off
RUNAS USAGE:

RUNAS [ [/noprofile | /profile] [/env] [/savecred | /netonly] ]
/user:UserName program

RUNAS [ [/noprofile | /profile] [/env] [/savecred] ]
/smartcard [/user:UserName] program

RUNAS /trustlevel:TrustLevel program

/noprofile specifies that the user's profile should not be loaded.
This causes the application to load more quickly, but
can cause some applications to malfunction.
/profile specifies that the user's profile should be loaded.
This is the default.
/env to use current environment instead of user's.
/netonly use if the credentials specified are for remote
access only.
/savecred to use credentials previously saved by the user.
/smartcard use if the credentials are to be supplied from a
smartcard.
/user UserName should be in form USER@DOMAIN or DOMAIN\USER
/showtrustlevels displays the trust levels that can be used as arguments
to /trustlevel.
/trustlevel Level should be one of levels enumerated
in /showtrustlevels.
program command line for EXE. See below for examples

Examples:
runas /noprofile /user:mymachine\administrator cmd
runas /profile /env /user:mydomain\admin "mmc %windir%\system32\dsa.msc"
runas /env "notepad \"my file.txt\""


NOTE: Enter user's password only when prompted.
NOTE: /profile is not compatible with /netonly.
NOTE: /savecred is not compatible with /smartcard.
Press any key to continue . . .



I tried also:

runas /user:Minas-Morgul\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
runas /profile /user:Minas-Morgul\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
runas /user:Minas-Morgul\administrator powercfg /hibernate off

all with the same result. It does not like the input, but it does not say why it does not like it or what part of it.

It finally worked with this line:

runas /user:Minas-Morgul\Carlos "powercfg /hibernate off"

which means that the programmer of the command has not bothered to do proper error handling and that he only accepts one command string as a single string (thus the ""). Ie, first he handles the options with "/", then a single entry string. If more, error out with no reason given.


Interestingly, it requests my password, even if the session user is already "Carlos". Enter does not work.


Well, I can live with this. Now I have both on and off scripts, and need to see if the "on" sets hibernate on again, watching for a few hours while I lunch and have siesta ;-)




--
Cheers, Carlos.

  #34  
Old July 14th 19, 03:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Your monitor goes from black[off] to gray[on] ?

In article , @. wrote:

None of my monitors [ flash a splash screen ],


I've never seen a monitor without a splash screen.

Your monitor goes from black[off] to gray[on],
nothing more ?


many do.
  #35  
Old July 14th 19, 04:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default My eyes don't like the surprise.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
Mayayana replied ( to me ):
If you want the monitor off then why not just turn it off?


The problem with turning the monitor off/on is
the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.

No one talks about it, not even in the manuals.
I'm a strange duck, apparently; no one but me cares about it.

Or put the whole system in standby.
I don't see the point of putting only the monitor to sleep.


Bria v5, my Win10 soft phone, responds to incoming calls.

I might be asleep, for example, with the monitor powered-off,
when someone calls me. I answer the phone ( via a mouse button )
without turning the monitor on. My eyes don't like the surprise.


1. Get power strip for monitor.
2. Place on bed within blob's reach.
3. (optional) shorturl.at/ctvDO

  #36  
Old July 14th 19, 05:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
Me, Owl and Steve:
The problem with turning the monitor off/on is
the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.

1. Get power strip for your monitor. [ something, something ]


Put "stuff" [?] in 'night mode'


Waking up at night, in a pitch black room,
and turning on a monitor, I get blasted by a "splash screen",
advertising the brand of my monitor, is if I didn't already know it.

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Others feel the same way, but no one has posted a solution;
hours of googling came up empty;
monitor reviews _ completely _ ignore this issue.

Some here have claimed that their monitors don't have this "splash screen",
but they can't tell me the make and model number.


The real question is why you sleep with your mouse in the bed with you.
Put in on a nightstand.

  #37  
Old July 14th 19, 05:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

On 2019-07-14 11:12 a.m., owl wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
Me, Owl and Steve:
The problem with turning the monitor off/on is
the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.

1. Get power strip for your monitor. [ something, something ]

Put "stuff" [?] in 'night mode'


Waking up at night, in a pitch black room,
and turning on a monitor, I get blasted by a "splash screen",
advertising the brand of my monitor, is if I didn't already know it.

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Others feel the same way, but no one has posted a solution;
hours of googling came up empty;
monitor reviews _ completely _ ignore this issue.

Some here have claimed that their monitors don't have this "splash screen",
but they can't tell me the make and model number.


The real question is why you sleep with your mouse in the bed with you.
Put in on a nightstand.


I think the OP has spun a bearing. :-)

Rene

  #38  
Old July 14th 19, 05:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Me, Owl and Steve:
The problem with turning the monitor off/on is
the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.


1. Get power strip for your monitor. [ something, something ]


Put "stuff" [?] in 'night mode'


Waking up at night, in a pitch black room,
and turning on a monitor, I get blasted by a "splash screen",
advertising the brand of my monitor, is if I didn't already know it.

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Others feel the same way, but no one has posted a solution;
hours of googling came up empty;
monitor reviews _ completely _ ignore this issue.

Some here have claimed that their monitors don't have this "splash screen",
but they can't tell me the make and model number.
  #39  
Old July 14th 19, 05:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Owl asked me:
Why do you sleep with your mouse in the bed with you ?
Put in on a nightstand.


It is on a nightstand, on a hard mousepad.
My arm rests on my bed, but my hand is on the mouse, on the nightstand.

How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing,
after waking up, in a pitch black room.
  #40  
Old July 14th 19, 06:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
Owl asked me:
Why do you sleep with your mouse in the bed with you ?
Put in on a nightstand.


It is on a nightstand, on a hard mousepad.
My arm rests on my bed, but my hand is on the mouse, on the nightstand.

How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?


How would the splash screen work without power?

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing,
after waking up, in a pitch black room.


Yeah.

  #41  
Old July 14th 19, 07:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
Owl asked me:
I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.
How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?


How would the splash screen work without power?


What do you think a "splash screen" is ? !


Something that does not work without power.


1. Turn on monitor, to start my day, in the pitch-black room.

2. Splash Screen appears, blinding me.

3. Note the brand of my monitor ( for the millionth time ).

4. Turn off the monitor, because "Owl" said so.

You can't see any problems with this, above ?

I could never use the monitor.


You asked how to keep the monitor from coming on when you accidentally
moved your mouse in your sleep. You do that by turning the thing off.
Now you move the goalposts by complaining about the splash screen
when you actually *do* want to turn on your monitor. In that case,
if you don't want so see the splash screen, I suggest turning your
head sufficiently that the monitor is no longer in your line of sight.

  #42  
Old July 14th 19, 07:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

On 2019-07-14, Jeff-Relf.Me @. Jeff-Relf.Me@ wrote:
Owl asked me:
I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.
How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?


How would the splash screen work without power?


What do you think a "splash screen" is ? !

1. Turn on monitor, to start my day, in the pitch-black room.

2. Splash Screen appears, blinding me.

3. Note the brand of my monitor ( for the millionth time ).

4. Turn off the monitor, because "Owl" said so.

You can't see any problems with this, above ?

I could never use the monitor.


How could you find the "global hotkey" in this "pitch black room",
genius?

Maybe...

1 - Turn a light on...

Ya think?
  #43  
Old July 14th 19, 07:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
Owl asked me:
I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.
How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?

How would the splash screen work without power?


What do you think a "splash screen" is ? !

1. Turn on monitor, to start my day, in the pitch-black room.

2. Splash Screen appears, blinding me.

3. Note the brand of my monitor ( for the millionth time ).

4. Turn off the monitor, because "Owl" said so.

You can't see any problems with this, above ?

I could never use the monitor.


Sometimes, certain combinations of those adjustment buttons
on the LCD monitor, change how it works.

But be careful of what you wish for.

There is a self test mode, that will knock out
an eyeball, when the entire screen turns red for a
second, green for a second, blue for a second. This
is the pixel test they use at the factory. They have
various patterns they use for factory usage. And the
monitor can be placed in a "robot-like" state, rendering
it useless for regular work (it ignores the signal
from the computer).

You would need to Google the make and model, to see
what is known about "jamming" multiple buttons on it.

Paul
  #44  
Old July 14th 19, 07:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Steve Carroll "Steve wrote:
On 2019-07-14, Jeff-Relf.Me @. Jeff-Relf.Me@ wrote:
Owl asked me:
I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.
How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?

How would the splash screen work without power?


What do you think a "splash screen" is ? !

1. Turn on monitor, to start my day, in the pitch-black room.

2. Splash Screen appears, blinding me.

3. Note the brand of my monitor ( for the millionth time ).

4. Turn off the monitor, because "Owl" said so.

You can't see any problems with this, above ?

I could never use the monitor.


How could you find the "global hotkey" in this "pitch black room",
genius?

Maybe...

1 - Turn a light on...

Ya think?


https://bit.ly/2NVVXHp

  #45  
Old July 14th 19, 07:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Your monitor goes from black[off] to gray[on] ?


Removing comp.os.linux.advocacy, I don't see what "advocacy" has to do
with technical issues. Nor Linux, if we are talking of Windows.

On 14/07/2019 15.49, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
Carlos replied ( to me ):
None of my monitors [ flash a splash screen ],


I've never seen a monitor without a splash screen.

Your monitor goes from black[off] to gray[on],
nothing more ?

What's the brand+model ? How old is it ?

I spent hours googling this "splash screen" issue;
found nothing.


I think it pops a brand name, but not that shiny. I often power it up in
a dark room.

My Sansung displays "samsung" in grey over a blue ellipse, the rest is
black. The acer displays "acer" in green on black (I just looked at
both, and I had switched off all the room lights for the test). None I
remember does a "super-annoying+blinding splash screen".


--
Cheers, Carlos.
 




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