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Old March 14th 05, 08:43 PM
ForestSpirit
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Default Network Reconfiguration

This post is very long. Please read only if you are patient enough to help a
newbie. These questions mostly pertain to XP networking, and this seems the
best forum for networking. Referrals and suggestions are very welcome. Even
if you can answer just one or two of my many questions here, that will help
a lot. Just quote the text you are replying to so I know which question you
are answering. I get confused rather easily.

Before beginning the networking questions, in Belarc Advisor under
"Installed Microsoft Hotfixes," SP2 (KB811113) does not have a green
checkmark next to it (lacks the data to allow verification). Is that normal?
All updates after SP2 show up as SP3, and all of them do have green
checkmarks and are verified. Here is a synopsis.

BELARC ADVISOR 6.1f
---------------------------
Unmarked hotfixes lack the data to allow verification.
(C) marks a hotfix that verifies correctly.
(X) marks a hotfix that fails verification (failing hotfixes need to be
reinstalled)

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes
----------------------------
..NETFramework
1.1
S867460 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
M886903 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
DataAccess
Q832483 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer 6
SP1
(C) KB867282-IE6SP1-20050127.163319 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP2 (SP2)
Outlook Express 6
SP1
(C) KB887797-OE6SP1-20041112.131144 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
(C) WM817787 (details...)
(C) Q828026 (details...)
Windows Media Player (continued)
SP0
(C) Q828026 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
Windows XP
SP2
KB811113[SP] on 3/8/2005 (details...)
SP3
(C) KB867282 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB873333 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB873339 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB885250 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB885835 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB885836 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB886185 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB887472 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB887742 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB887797 on 3/12/2005 (details...)
(C) KB888113 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB888240 on 3/13/2005 (details...)
(C) KB888302 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB890047 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB890175 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB891781 on 3/8/2005 (details...)

In another area of Belarc, Local System accounts show "HelpAssistant" and
"SUPPORT_388945a0" as disabled accounts. Is that because I disabled Remote
Assistance and Remote Desktop in Control Panel - System - Remote? Could it
also be because I disabled Messenger from starting up with Windows?

Is this a good place to get help with what I need, or is there an online
forum for newbies you might recommend, because this could take a while. I
basically need instructions that an idiot could understand.

I will also need help determining which of the numerous Services that start
up in WinXP I need and which I do not. The MSCONFIG in XP sucks. I can't
maximize it, and there is hardly any information in either MSCONFIG or the
Task Manager under Services. Program names and paths are not mentioned, just
names of processes. How do they expect me to find anything? I need a good
third-party Startup Manager/Task Manager in one program that is not very
expensive. WinTasks Pro is too expensive. One option is the Ultimate
Troubleshooter, which is $25. I haven't it tried yet, but I am open to other
options. Their site has a list of Processes (Services). SysInfo has a list
of Startups. Spybot helps me to some extent with Startups but not Processes
or Services.

Startups
http://sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

Processes
http://www.liutilities.com/products/...rocesslibrary/
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm

Some of those XP background processes might be what is causing my LAN to cut
out from time to time. When that happens I lose both Internet access and
network access. One of the network icons disappears from my taskbar. Other
times it doesn't, and when I click on it to "repair" it it freezes. When I
try to bring up "Network Connections" it freezes. A reboot brings everything
back to normal. Firewall, antivirus and antispyware are all up-to-date, full
system malware scans are run regularly, including online scans. I really
don't think malware is the problem. I think it's background processes in XP,
but I just don't know enough about them to mess with any of them. XP has
only been installed for a few days on both PCs. Both of us are new to it.

Please assistant with Network Setup and with Binding/Unbinding TCP/IP from
File and Printer Sharing for better security. I am the "network
administrator" of this home network but new to XP and not a techie or
certified expert. Many web sites and Microsoft articles about networking are
geared toward more advanced users, and I do not understand all that is in
them. Need step-by-step advice. Forgive me if too much information is below.
Better to have too much than not enough.

At present, only two XP Pro SP2 computers are connected, this one and one
other desktop. I do not know how to connect the Win95a and Win98se laptops
or if it is even possible since they use 16-bit PCMCIA to connect to the
ethernet hub. The XP network setup wizard does not support Win95. The old
laptops connected fine to the network when this computer and the other
desktop both used Windows Me.

With XP, it is all user-level rather than share-level access, and I don't
know how to configure Win9x for user-level access. Let's do that later after
we get things configured properly for the two XP machines. Also, I need to
password protect the shared folders, the access to each computer, and each
network printer. Can't see how to do that with XP. With 9x, it was easy to
password-protect a shared printer or a shared drive.

SBC Yahoo! DSL Technical Support and 2Wire Technical Support state that the
2Wire Home Portal 1000HW is both a DSL Modem and a Router. I do not know if
it is a gateway, but I suspect it is for three reasons: (1) Windows uses the
word "gateway" in the name for the connection, (2) Windows preselects the
"residential gateway" option in the network setup wizard, and (3) the 2wire
people say that I cannot connect a separate "residential gateway" to the
device.

NETWORK CONFIGURATION
------------------------
10BaseT Ethernet Network
One Workgroup, No Domain
4 Computers (only 3 can connect at a time)
This computer is the Network Administrator
This computer is XP Pro SP2 (3 local users)
DSL modem/router uses DNS/DHCP/NAT (functions as a gateway?)
DSL modem/router has a hardware firewall
DSL modem/router is wired to this PC by USB 2.0 (10Mbps)
DSL modem/router is wired to a 10BaseT 4-port ethernet hub (10Mbps)
Other computers connect to this PC and the Internet by ethernet hub
This computer has no cable directly to the hub (or there would be conflicts)
PCs CONNECTED: (1) XP Pro SP2 PC (same 3 local users)
PCs DISCONNECTED: (1) Win95a PC and (1) Win98se PC
FILE & PRINTER SHARING: Enabled
INTERNET cONNECTION SHARING: Disabled (incompatible with DHCP modem/router)
WINDOWS FIREWALL: Off (because ZoneAlarm firewall is On)
THIRD-PARTY FIREWALL: On (Zone Alarm Pro 5.5)
IP ADDRESSES: Obtained automatically by DHCP
BINDINGS: Default settings (insecure)

** Is my current network peer-to-peer or client/server? **

TRANSPORT PROTOCOL LAYER
---------------------------
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)..............Properties available
Aegis Protocol (IEEE 802.1x) v2.3.1.9...Properties grayed out
NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol...Properties available
NWLink NetBIOS..........................Properties grayed out

All protocols were automatically installed and configured by Windows except
for IPX/SPX, which I added after reading that that protocol (or NetBEUI) is
the key to separating File and Printer Sharing from TCP/IP. I just don't
know how to do it. On the options for each network connection in XP, I see
nothing about bindings. In Win9x, the bindings options are easier to find.

HARDWARE ADAPTER LAYER
-------------------------
1394 Net Adapter
2Wire Gateway USB
MAC Bridge Miniport (Network Bridge)
Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC (Disabled)
HSP56 Micromodem (COM3) (56k Dial-up Fax Modem)

- Realtek is disabled, nothing is plugged into my ethernet port. A Z65n
network printer will go there later to replace my existing Z42 parallel port
printer. We don't have a cartridge for the Z65n. That's the only reason
we're not using it.

- The Network Bridge connects 1394 and Realtek, so that the new Z65n
printer, once installed, will be available to the existing network.

- The 1394 Net Adapter is used with my network and/or the Internet, but I am
not exactly how or what it does. Windows automatically configured it. The
1394 sounds like firewire, but I don't have any firewire devices installed.
Firewire is enabled on the mainboard, but I'm not using it. Or am I using it
through this adapter? Is this just an internal connection needed for Windows
to set up the Internet and the network? Windows needs at least two adapters
for that, according to the XP Help and Support.

** Which adapter is the one that connects to the Internet, 1394 or 2Wire? **

** Which adapter should be used for File & Printer Sharing? **

NETWORK SERVICES LAYER
-------------------------
Client for Microsoft Networks.....Properties available
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks...Properties grayed out
QoS Packet Scheduler..............Properties grayed out

NETWORK CONNECTIONS
----------------------
Network Bridge................Connected, 400Mbps
LAN (Realtek Ethernet)........Disabled, Bridged (nothing plugged in there
yet)
LAN (2Wire Gateway USB) DSL...Connected, 10Mbps
Dial-up Connection............Disabled (backup connection method)
1394 Connection...............Connected, 400Mbps, Bridged

- The Realtek Ethernet NIC is disabled at my choice because nothing is
plugged into that port. Since I'm already connected to the network via USB
(or 1394), I cannot also be connected to the hub or there would be
conflicts.

- I plan to connect an ethernet cable to my open ethernet port at some
point. The cable will go from my ethernet port directly to the ethernet port
of a Lexmark Z65n printer (when we get a print cartridge for it) without
going through the ethernet hub.

- When I re-enable that Realtek ethernet port for the Z65n printer, that
printer will automatically become part of the existing network through the
Network Bridge, theoretically.

- The dial-up connection is only used when the LAN is not available.

- When dialing in with the dial-up connection, TCP/IP completes the
connection successfully, but a connection to the remote computer cannot be
established with IPX/SPX (error 733). A dialog box asks me if I want to
"Accept" the connection as is and if I want to check the box "Do not
request the failed protocols next time". I click "Accept", but I'm afraid to
check the other box about failed protocols because I don't know how
difficult it will be to reverse that decision if things change.

- I wonder why the 2Wire Gateway USB connection is only 10Mbps (rather than
400Mbps) for USB 2.0, unless it's because the router connects to an ethernet
hub which can only support 10Mbps.

NETWORK SETUP WIZARD
-----------------------
Option #1: "This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other
computers on the network connect through this computer."
(This is the option I thought was correct, but Windows did not preselect
it.)

Option #2: "This computer connects to the Internet through a residential
gateway or through another computer on the network"
(This option came up by default in the network setup wizard when Windows
searched for a shared connection. Maybe this one is correct. This is the
option I am presently using on this computer.)

Option #3: "Other"
(This option is not used, but it was set up this way originally. At that
time, there was no USB cable between the router and my computer. My computer
was connected directly to the ethernet hub. Then we heard that the USB
direct connection method would be more secure, so we switched the wiring to
the current configuration as recommended by the 2Wire people and my ISP.)


QUESTIONS
------------
1. Which option for the network setup wizard (see 1, 2 or 3 above) is
correct for this computer?
2. Would option 2 be correct for all the other computers on the network?
That was used for the other XP machine.
3. Since the modem/router connects to my machine with USB, there is no power
to that USB connection when my computer is turned off, right?
4. So the other computers can't connect when my machine is turned off,
right?
5. Does my machine need to be turned on all the time in order for the others
to connect to the Internet?
6. Is my current network peer-to-peer or client/server?
7. Which adapter is the one that connects to the Internet, 1394 or 2Wire?
8. Which adapter should be used for File & Printer Sharing, 1394 or 2Wire?
9. Network Bindings need to be reconfigured to isolate File & Printer
Sharing from the Internet without losing my ability to connect either to the
Internet or to the other computers (and the other computers to me). I need
step-by-step instructions, not too technical.
10. Password protection needs to be added to each network printer and each
shared drive/folder. I need step-by-step instructions, not too technical.
11. The network access and Internet connection through are sometimes lost
for no apparent reason. Any idea why? Sometimes the 2Wire Gateway USB icon
disappears from the taskbar when this happens. When it doesn't disappear, I
can't right-click on it because it freezes. Sometimes Start -- Network
Connections will not open. I suspect it may be some background process
running in XP. The only way to get the connection back is to reboot the PC.
12. Remote Desktop and Remote assistance are both disabled. Do they need to
be enabled?

After the two XP machines are configured, I will need assistance setting up
the two Win9x laptops. Looking forward to hearing from the experts.




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Old March 14th 05, 09:50 PM
Chuck
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Default Network Reconfiguration

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:43:32 -0800, "ForestSpirit"
wrote:

This post is very long. Please read only if you are patient enough to help a
newbie. These questions mostly pertain to XP networking, and this seems the
best forum for networking. Referrals and suggestions are very welcome. Even
if you can answer just one or two of my many questions here, that will help
a lot. Just quote the text you are replying to so I know which question you
are answering. I get confused rather easily.

Before beginning the networking questions, in Belarc Advisor under
"Installed Microsoft Hotfixes," SP2 (KB811113) does not have a green
checkmark next to it (lacks the data to allow verification). Is that normal?
All updates after SP2 show up as SP3, and all of them do have green
checkmarks and are verified. Here is a synopsis.

BELARC ADVISOR 6.1f
---------------------------
Unmarked hotfixes lack the data to allow verification.
(C) marks a hotfix that verifies correctly.
(X) marks a hotfix that fails verification (failing hotfixes need to be
reinstalled)

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes
----------------------------
.NETFramework
1.1
S867460 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
M886903 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
DataAccess
Q832483 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
KB870669 (details...)
Internet Explorer 6
SP1
(C) KB867282-IE6SP1-20050127.163319 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
Internet Explorer
SP2 (SP2)
Outlook Express 6
SP1
(C) KB887797-OE6SP1-20041112.131144 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
Windows Media Player
(C) WM817787 (details...)
(C) Q828026 (details...)
Windows Media Player (continued)
SP0
(C) Q828026 on 3/6/2005 (details...)
Windows XP
SP2
KB811113[SP] on 3/8/2005 (details...)
SP3
(C) KB867282 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB873333 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB873339 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB885250 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB885835 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB885836 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB886185 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB887472 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB887742 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB887797 on 3/12/2005 (details...)
(C) KB888113 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB888240 on 3/13/2005 (details...)
(C) KB888302 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB890047 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB890175 on 3/8/2005 (details...)
(C) KB891781 on 3/8/2005 (details...)

In another area of Belarc, Local System accounts show "HelpAssistant" and
"SUPPORT_388945a0" as disabled accounts. Is that because I disabled Remote
Assistance and Remote Desktop in Control Panel - System - Remote? Could it
also be because I disabled Messenger from starting up with Windows?

Is this a good place to get help with what I need, or is there an online
forum for newbies you might recommend, because this could take a while. I
basically need instructions that an idiot could understand.

I will also need help determining which of the numerous Services that start
up in WinXP I need and which I do not. The MSCONFIG in XP sucks. I can't
maximize it, and there is hardly any information in either MSCONFIG or the
Task Manager under Services. Program names and paths are not mentioned, just
names of processes. How do they expect me to find anything? I need a good
third-party Startup Manager/Task Manager in one program that is not very
expensive. WinTasks Pro is too expensive. One option is the Ultimate
Troubleshooter, which is $25. I haven't it tried yet, but I am open to other
options. Their site has a list of Processes (Services). SysInfo has a list
of Startups. Spybot helps me to some extent with Startups but not Processes
or Services.

Startups
http://sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

Processes
http://www.liutilities.com/products/...rocesslibrary/
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm


The above 3 websites I use frequently as references. A fourth is BlackViper:
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

You are absolutely on target in your opinion about MSConfig. What you need are
2 free tools: AutoRuns and Process Explorer. Process Explorer, from
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml, provides way more
information than Task Manager. And Autoruns
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml will show you
specifically what processes and services are started automatically, with the
path of the main program listed.

I'm constantly wondering (thankfully so) why these tools are still free. I just
hope that Mark et al doesn't read this and start charging. ;-(

If anybody knows of better tools, I would like to try them. I don't think there
are any, certainly not free ones.

Some of those XP background processes might be what is causing my LAN to cut
out from time to time. When that happens I lose both Internet access and
network access. One of the network icons disappears from my taskbar. Other
times it doesn't, and when I click on it to "repair" it it freezes. When I
try to bring up "Network Connections" it freezes. A reboot brings everything
back to normal. Firewall, antivirus and antispyware are all up-to-date, full
system malware scans are run regularly, including online scans. I really
don't think malware is the problem. I think it's background processes in XP,
but I just don't know enough about them to mess with any of them. XP has
only been installed for a few days on both PCs. Both of us are new to it.

Please assistant with Network Setup and with Binding/Unbinding TCP/IP from
File and Printer Sharing for better security. I am the "network
administrator" of this home network but new to XP and not a techie or
certified expert. Many web sites and Microsoft articles about networking are
geared toward more advanced users, and I do not understand all that is in
them. Need step-by-step advice. Forgive me if too much information is below.
Better to have too much than not enough.

At present, only two XP Pro SP2 computers are connected, this one and one
other desktop. I do not know how to connect the Win95a and Win98se laptops
or if it is even possible since they use 16-bit PCMCIA to connect to the
ethernet hub. The XP network setup wizard does not support Win95. The old
laptops connected fine to the network when this computer and the other
desktop both used Windows Me.


Do the 2 XP computers indeed connect, and share files successfully? That's very
good if so, because now you know that they both are indeed setup properly, so
now you can go to work including the Win9x computers. You will know that you
are connecting to properly setup computers, when testing the Win9x computers.

With XP, it is all user-level rather than share-level access, and I don't
know how to configure Win9x for user-level access. Let's do that later after
we get things configured properly for the two XP machines. Also, I need to
password protect the shared folders, the access to each computer, and each
network printer. Can't see how to do that with XP. With 9x, it was easy to
password-protect a shared printer or a shared drive.


With Windows XP, you don't password protect anything. You protect everything
under Windows NT/2K/XP by authentication and authorisation. This is a pretty
long article, but I think it will tell you what you need to know:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en

SBC Yahoo! DSL Technical Support and 2Wire Technical Support state that the
2Wire Home Portal 1000HW is both a DSL Modem and a Router. I do not know if
it is a gateway, but I suspect it is for three reasons: (1) Windows uses the
word "gateway" in the name for the connection, (2) Windows preselects the
"residential gateway" option in the network setup wizard, and (3) the 2wire
people say that I cannot connect a separate "residential gateway" to the
device.


The 2Wire is a NAT Router, which the Windows XP Networking Wizard calls a
"residential gateway".

Why do you complicate things by using USB? The 2Wire contains a 4 computer
Ethernet switch, so connect everything directly to it. If you don't have enough
ports, connect an extra Ethernet switch to one of the 2Wire ports, and connect
more computers to the switch.

But please stick with Ethernet. It's hella simpler to setup. Ethernet is
built-in to Windows; USB network devices may require extra device drivers.

When you setup the network protocols, remember that Windows networking is built
around TCP/IP, and uses NetBIOS Over TCP/IP as an interface to file and printer
sharing. Windows 95 used NetBEUI at one time, but you can install NBT on it
too.

Do yourself, and most everybody here, a huge favour and eliminate excess
protocols from the list of items under Local Area Connection Properties. You
only need the following items in the list:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Then, make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers. Local
Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties - Advanced - WINS - Enable
NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

You specifically don't require IPX/SPX or NetBEUI. Please don't frustrate
yourself by including either.



NETWORK CONFIGURATION
------------------------
10BaseT Ethernet Network
One Workgroup, No Domain
4 Computers (only 3 can connect at a time)
This computer is the Network Administrator
This computer is XP Pro SP2 (3 local users)
DSL modem/router uses DNS/DHCP/NAT (functions as a gateway?)
DSL modem/router has a hardware firewall
DSL modem/router is wired to this PC by USB 2.0 (10Mbps)
DSL modem/router is wired to a 10BaseT 4-port ethernet hub (10Mbps)
Other computers connect to this PC and the Internet by ethernet hub
This computer has no cable directly to the hub (or there would be conflicts)
PCs CONNECTED: (1) XP Pro SP2 PC (same 3 local users)
PCs DISCONNECTED: (1) Win95a PC and (1) Win98se PC
FILE & PRINTER SHARING: Enabled
INTERNET cONNECTION SHARING: Disabled (incompatible with DHCP modem/router)
WINDOWS FIREWALL: Off (because ZoneAlarm firewall is On)
THIRD-PARTY FIREWALL: On (Zone Alarm Pro 5.5)
IP ADDRESSES: Obtained automatically by DHCP
BINDINGS: Default settings (insecure)

** Is my current network peer-to-peer or client/server? **

TRANSPORT PROTOCOL LAYER
---------------------------
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)..............Properties available
Aegis Protocol (IEEE 802.1x) v2.3.1.9...Properties grayed out
NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol...Properties available
NWLink NetBIOS..........................Properties grayed out

All protocols were automatically installed and configured by Windows except
for IPX/SPX, which I added after reading that that protocol (or NetBEUI) is
the key to separating File and Printer Sharing from TCP/IP. I just don't
know how to do it. On the options for each network connection in XP, I see
nothing about bindings. In Win9x, the bindings options are easier to find.


Please see my note above.

HARDWARE ADAPTER LAYER
-------------------------
1394 Net Adapter
2Wire Gateway USB
MAC Bridge Miniport (Network Bridge)
Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC (Disabled)
HSP56 Micromodem (COM3) (56k Dial-up Fax Modem)

- Realtek is disabled, nothing is plugged into my ethernet port. A Z65n
network printer will go there later to replace my existing Z42 parallel port
printer. We don't have a cartridge for the Z65n. That's the only reason
we're not using it.


Please see my note above.

- The Network Bridge connects 1394 and Realtek, so that the new Z65n
printer, once installed, will be available to the existing network.


Please delete the bridge!

- The 1394 Net Adapter is used with my network and/or the Internet, but I am
not exactly how or what it does. Windows automatically configured it. The
1394 sounds like firewire, but I don't have any firewire devices installed.
Firewire is enabled on the mainboard, but I'm not using it. Or am I using it
through this adapter? Is this just an internal connection needed for Windows
to set up the Internet and the network? Windows needs at least two adapters
for that, according to the XP Help and Support.


Please delete the bridge, and don't worry about 1394 networking until you get a
Firewire networked device.

** Which adapter is the one that connects to the Internet, 1394 or 2Wire? **

** Which adapter should be used for File & Printer Sharing? **


Ethernet!!

NETWORK SERVICES LAYER
-------------------------
Client for Microsoft Networks.....Properties available
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks...Properties grayed out
QoS Packet Scheduler..............Properties grayed out

NETWORK CONNECTIONS
----------------------
Network Bridge................Connected, 400Mbps
LAN (Realtek Ethernet)........Disabled, Bridged (nothing plugged in there
yet)
LAN (2Wire Gateway USB) DSL...Connected, 10Mbps
Dial-up Connection............Disabled (backup connection method)
1394 Connection...............Connected, 400Mbps, Bridged

- The Realtek Ethernet NIC is disabled at my choice because nothing is
plugged into that port. Since I'm already connected to the network via USB
(or 1394), I cannot also be connected to the hub or there would be
conflicts.

- I plan to connect an ethernet cable to my open ethernet port at some
point. The cable will go from my ethernet port directly to the ethernet port
of a Lexmark Z65n printer (when we get a print cartridge for it) without
going through the ethernet hub.

- When I re-enable that Realtek ethernet port for the Z65n printer, that
printer will automatically become part of the existing network through the
Network Bridge, theoretically.

- The dial-up connection is only used when the LAN is not available.

- When dialing in with the dial-up connection, TCP/IP completes the
connection successfully, but a connection to the remote computer cannot be
established with IPX/SPX (error 733). A dialog box asks me if I want to
"Accept" the connection as is and if I want to check the box "Do not
request the failed protocols next time". I click "Accept", but I'm afraid to
check the other box about failed protocols because I don't know how
difficult it will be to reverse that decision if things change.

- I wonder why the 2Wire Gateway USB connection is only 10Mbps (rather than
400Mbps) for USB 2.0, unless it's because the router connects to an ethernet
hub which can only support 10Mbps.

NETWORK SETUP WIZARD
-----------------------
Option #1: "This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other
computers on the network connect through this computer."
(This is the option I thought was correct, but Windows did not preselect
it.)

Option #2: "This computer connects to the Internet through a residential
gateway or through another computer on the network"
(This option came up by default in the network setup wizard when Windows
searched for a shared connection. Maybe this one is correct. This is the
option I am presently using on this computer.)

Option #3: "Other"
(This option is not used, but it was set up this way originally. At that
time, there was no USB cable between the router and my computer. My computer
was connected directly to the ethernet hub. Then we heard that the USB
direct connection method would be more secure, so we switched the wiring to
the current configuration as recommended by the 2Wire people and my ISP.)


If you connect all computers thru Ethernet (or WiFi), to the 2Wire, select
Option #2 in all cases.

QUESTIONS
------------
1. Which option for the network setup wizard (see 1, 2 or 3 above) is
correct for this computer?

Option 2.

2. Would option 2 be correct for all the other computers on the network?
That was used for the other XP machine.

Yes.

3. Since the modem/router connects to my machine with USB, there is no power
to that USB connection when my computer is turned off, right?

Please don't use USB.

4. So the other computers can't connect when my machine is turned off,
right?

Not if you configure the other computers with Option 2, so they use the 2Wire as
the gateway.

5. Does my machine need to be turned on all the time in order for the others
to connect to the Internet?

See #4.

6. Is my current network peer-to-peer or client/server?

Peer-Peer for file sharing.

7. Which adapter is the one that connects to the Internet, 1394 or 2Wire?

Ethernet, preferably.

8. Which adapter should be used for File & Printer Sharing, 1394 or 2Wire?

Ethernet.

9. Network Bindings need to be reconfigured to isolate File & Printer
Sharing from the Internet without losing my ability to connect either to the
Internet or to the other computers (and the other computers to me). I need
step-by-step instructions, not too technical.

See my above notes.

10. Password protection needs to be added to each network printer and each
shared drive/folder. I need step-by-step instructions, not too technical.

Let's get the network setup and working first.

11. The network access and Internet connection through are sometimes lost
for no apparent reason. Any idea why? Sometimes the 2Wire Gateway USB icon
disappears from the taskbar when this happens. When it doesn't disappear, I
can't right-click on it because it freezes. Sometimes Start -- Network
Connections will not open. I suspect it may be some background process
running in XP. The only way to get the connection back is to reboot the PC.

Maybe another reason not to use USB.

12. Remote Desktop and Remote assistance are both disabled. Do they need to
be enabled?


RA / RD are useful tools for diagnosing problems, but should NOT be activated
unless needed.

After the two XP machines are configured, I will need assistance setting up
the two Win9x laptops. Looking forward to hearing from the experts.


If you use Ethernet between all computers and the 2Wire, and set the 2Wire up as
the gateway, the whole task will be hella easier. Of course, getting dialup
access working as a backup will be harder - if that is your priority, then most
of my responses need to be adjusted.

Getting file sharing working between Windows 9x and Windows NT is another can of
worms. Get file sharing between the 2 NT (XP) systems, and internet service on
all, working first.

There are a lot of helpers here. Nobody knows everything, so be patient with us
please.

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Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
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Old March 16th 05, 07:14 PM
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Thank you, Chuck, for responding to this long post. Please give me a day or
so to read through all the information and visit the sites you suggested.
Then I will reply.
ForestSpirit


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Old March 16th 05, 09:17 PM
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:14:14 -0800, "ForestSpirit"
wrote:

Thank you, Chuck, for responding to this long post. Please give me a day or
so to read through all the information and visit the sites you suggested.
Then I will reply.
ForestSpirit


Have fun, and take your time.

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My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
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Old March 18th 05, 10:43 PM
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Chuck, I am having Internet access problems and Browser problems every time
the computer reboots. Sometimes it takes 2-5 minutes for Internet Explorer
to load my home page. There is no network access or Internet access until
that successfully occurs. After IE loads successfully that first time after
reboot, it loads fast and normally during the rest of that Windows session,
when opening multiple browser Windows, or when logging on as a different
user, and I have full network access to the other XP computer. But on the
next reboot, I have to wait for IE to load again before I have access.

So far, we do not know the cause, but it is a problem with only my computer.
Scott doesn't have a problem with his PC. The techs at Spybot
Net-Integration forums have determined that it is not malware related. They
think it is Windows related, possibly something that happened during the
last System Restore. Hopefully, they will be able to help me fix it. Once
that problem is solved, I will return here and continue our network
discussion and have you assist me in hooking up the two Win9x laptops.

You will be pleased to know that I did rewire the network back to the way it
was where all connections go to the ethernet hub. No more USB. That was
working very well for a few days, but then something happened. I do not know
if it was a result of installing a bad program or what. The problem seemed
to be fixed after a system restore, but it returned after I reset TCP/IP. I
am awaiting a reply in the Net-Integration forum to see what my next step
is. It is good to have a problem covered in only one forum rather than two
forums or groups at the same time. Less confusion.

Until this problem is fixed, I do not want to change any system settings or
install new software or hardware because it could make my problems worse. I
will include my original post here as well as your reply when I am able to
return to this topic.

Thanks
ForestSpirit


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Old March 18th 05, 11:35 PM
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:43:18 -0800, "ForestSpirit"
wrote:

Chuck, I am having Internet access problems and Browser problems every time
the computer reboots. Sometimes it takes 2-5 minutes for Internet Explorer
to load my home page. There is no network access or Internet access until
that successfully occurs. After IE loads successfully that first time after
reboot, it loads fast and normally during the rest of that Windows session,
when opening multiple browser Windows, or when logging on as a different
user, and I have full network access to the other XP computer. But on the
next reboot, I have to wait for IE to load again before I have access.

So far, we do not know the cause, but it is a problem with only my computer.
Scott doesn't have a problem with his PC. The techs at Spybot
Net-Integration forums have determined that it is not malware related. They
think it is Windows related, possibly something that happened during the
last System Restore. Hopefully, they will be able to help me fix it. Once
that problem is solved, I will return here and continue our network
discussion and have you assist me in hooking up the two Win9x laptops.

You will be pleased to know that I did rewire the network back to the way it
was where all connections go to the ethernet hub. No more USB. That was
working very well for a few days, but then something happened. I do not know
if it was a result of installing a bad program or what. The problem seemed
to be fixed after a system restore, but it returned after I reset TCP/IP. I
am awaiting a reply in the Net-Integration forum to see what my next step
is. It is good to have a problem covered in only one forum rather than two
forums or groups at the same time. Less confusion.

Until this problem is fixed, I do not want to change any system settings or
install new software or hardware because it could make my problems worse. I
will include my original post here as well as your reply when I am able to
return to this topic.

Thanks
ForestSpirit


That's kewl - congrats on getting rid of the USB connections. Thanks for the
update.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
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Old March 20th 05, 05:43 PM
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Chuck, the Spybot people have given up on my problem. In my last post, they
did not answer my questions. They think I should have an onsite tech come to
my home to troubleshoot, but I cannot afford this, so I am bringing my
problem to this newsgroup now to be worked on. Here is the link to the
original thread in the Spybot forum so you can read all about the problem
from start to finish. At the moment, all the Net-Integration forums are down
for maintenance, but keep trying the link.

http://forums.net-integration.net/in...iew=getnewpost

The problem started in the Browser & Plugins thread. Then they referred me
to the Malware Removal thread to rule out malware, and finally I was sent
back to the Browser & Plugins thread since the problem is not malware
related. Appropriate links are within the thread.

At this point I am ready to try reinstalling Windows (XP Pro SP1) or
reinstalling SP2, plus all Windows Updates, unless there is something else
to try first. I have never done this before and do not know where to begin.

In my next posts, I can tell you all my current network settings and all
currently installed Windows components. I can tell you in exactly which
order all Windows Updates were installed. My first post in this thread has
my Belarc Advisor information about hotfixes.


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Chuck, I am having Internet access problems and Browser problems every time
the computer reboots. Sometimes it takes 2-5 minutes for Internet Explorer
to load my home page. There is no network access or Internet access until
that successfully occurs. After IE loads successfully that first time after
reboot, it loads fast and normally during the rest of that Windows session,
when opening multiple browser Windows, or when logging on as a different
user, and I have full network access to the other XP computer. But on the
next reboot, I have to wait for IE to load again before I have access.

So far, we do not know the cause, but it is a problem with only my computer.
Scott doesn't have a problem with his PC. The techs at Spybot
Net-Integration forums have determined that it is not malware related. They
think it is Windows related, possibly something that happened during the
last System Restore. Hopefully, they will be able to help me fix it. Once
that problem is solved, I will return here and continue our network
discussion and have you assist me in hooking up the two Win9x laptops.

You will be pleased to know that I did rewire the network back to the way it
was where all connections go to the ethernet hub. No more USB. That was
working very well for a few days, but then something happened. I do not know
if it was a result of installing a bad program or what. The problem seemed
to be fixed after a system restore, but it returned after I reset TCP/IP. I
am awaiting a reply in the Net-Integration forum to see what my next step
is. It is good to have a problem covered in only one forum rather than two
forums or groups at the same time. Less confusion.

Until this problem is fixed, I do not want to change any system settings or
install new software or hardware because it could make my problems worse. I
will include my original post here as well as your reply when I am able to
return to this topic.

Thanks
ForestSpirit



  #8  
Old March 20th 05, 06:35 PM
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Windows Updates & Hotfixes
Order of Installation
Windows XP Pro SP1

Note: Blank spaces between hotfixes indicate separate installation sessions.
Some hotfixes were installed one at a time, others in groups. Some were
installed through the Windows Update site. Others were installed offline.

WUv5 Update (1)
842773 (1 of 1)

High Priority Updates (21)
828741 (1 of 21)
840987 (2 of 21)
841533 (3 of 21)
873376 (4 of 21)
873339 (5 of 21)
885836 (6 of 21)
833987 (7 of 21)
871250 (8 of 21)
890175 (9 of 21)
891711 (10 of 21)
885835 (11 of 21)
888302 (12 of 21)
890047 (13 of 21)
891781 (14 of 21)
867282 (15 of 21)
888113 (16 of 21)
890830 (17 of 21)
873333 (18 of 21)
841356 (19 of 21)
835732 (20 of 21)
885250 (21 of 21)

High Priority Updates (18)
814078 (1 of 18)
817787 (2 of 18)
819696 (3 of 18)
832182 (4 of 18)
824105 (5 of 18)
825119 (6 of 18)
828035 (7 of 18)
828026 (8 of 18)
870669 (9 of 18)
837001 (10 of 18)
839643 (11 of 18)
826939 (12 of 18)
823353 (13 of 18)
841873 (14 of 18)
839645 (15 of 18)
840315 (16 of 18)
832483 (17 of 18)
840374 (18 of 18)

Optional Updates (2)
321340 (1 of 2)
887797 (2 of 2)

DirectX 9.0c

WMP 10

Net Framework 1.1

Net Framework 1.1 SP1

Windows XP SP2

890830
887472
867282
887742
886185

887797
888240

If I do have to reinstall SP2 or do a complete reinstall (in place upgrade
or reinstallation) of Windows (SP1 level), I need to know what registry
settings need to be changed first, what files must be backed up or deleted,
etc.


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Old March 20th 05, 06:39 PM
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I forgot to mention that currently I am unable to get on the Windows Update
site. All that displays is a blank Window. The page never loads.

Maybe I should just reinstall Windows completely, rather than trying to
reinstall SP2. Either way, I need instructions. Will I be able to pick and
choose what features I want to install? From what I've read, the reinstall
needs to be done by booting with the XP CDROM. Will reinstalling Windows
overwrite SP2, WMP10, DX9.0c, or do I need to do something first so that
Windows will reinstall over these updates to bring them back to their
original state?

The next post will list all currently installed Windows Components. It will
take time to write them all down. At present, my ZoneAlarm firewall has been
uninstalled, and I am using only the Windows SP2 firewall.


  #10  
Old March 20th 05, 06:59 PM
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Installed Windows Components
Windows XP Pro SP1

(*) Accessories and Utilities (18.0 MB)
(*) Accessories (3.2 MB)
(*) Calculator (0.2 MB)
(*) Character Map (0.9 MB)
(*) Clipboard Viewer (0.1 MB)
(*) Desktop Wallpaper (0.3 MB)
(*) Document Templates (0.1 MB)
(*) Mouse Pointers (0.4 MB)
(*) Paint (0.4 MB)
(*) Games (12.1 MB)
(*) Freecell (0.1 MB)
(*) Hearts (0.1 MB)
(*) Internet Games (8.5 MB)
(*) Minesweeper (0.1 MB)
(*) Solitaire (0.1 MB)
(*) Spider Solitaire (0.5 MB)

(*) Fax Services (3.8 MB)

(*) Indexing Service (0.0 MB)

(*) Internet Explorer (0.0 MB)

( ) Internet Information Services (IIS) (13.5 MB)
( ) Common Files (1.0 MB)
( ) Documentation (3.5 MB)
( ) File Transfer Protocol (FTP) Service (0.1 MB)
( ) FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions (4.3 MB)
( ) Internet Information Services Snap-In (1.3 MB)
( ) SMTP Service (1.1 MB)
( ) SMTP Service (1.1 MB)
( ) World Wide Web Service (2.3 MB)
( ) Printers virtual directory (0.0 MB)
( ) Remote Desktop Web Connection (0.4 MB)
( ) Scripts virtual directory (0.0 MB)
( ) World Wide Web Service (1.9 MB)

(*) Management and Monitoring Tools (2.0 MB)
(*) Simple Network Management Protocol (0.9 MB)
(*) WMI SNMP Provider (1.1 MB)

( ) Message Queuing (0.0 MB)
( ) Active Directory Integration (0.0 MB)
( ) Common (0.0 MB)
( ) Core functionality (0.0 MB)
( ) Local Storage (0.0 MB)
( ) MSMQ HTTP Support (0.0 MB)
( ) Triggers (0.0 MB)

( ) MSN Explorer (20.7 MB)

(*) Networking Services (0.3 MB)
(*) Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control Client (0.0 MB)
( ) Peer-to-Peer (0.0 MB)
( ) RIP Listener (0.0 MB)
( ) Simple TCP/IP Services (0.0 MB)
(*) UPnP User Interface (0.2 MB)

( ) Other Network File and Print Services (0.0 MB)
( ) Print Services for Unix (0.0 MB)

(*) Outlook Express (0.0 MB)

(*) Update Root Certificates (0.0 MB)

(*) Windows Media Player (0.0 MB)

( ) Windows Messenger (0.0 MB)


------------------------------------------------------
At this point, I don't even care if I have to reformat the hard drive and
start from scratch. It will take time to read through all the info I have
posted here today, plus the info on the Spybot site in the link I provided.

http://forums.net-integration.net/in...0&#entry139393

I do hope someone will be able to help me.
ForestSpirit


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Old March 21st 05, 06:29 AM
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:43:10 -0800, "ForestSpirit" *email_address_deleted*
wrote:

Chuck, the Spybot people have given up on my problem. In my last post, they
did not answer my questions. They think I should have an onsite tech come to
my home to troubleshoot, but I cannot afford this, so I am bringing my
problem to this newsgroup now to be worked on. Here is the link to the
original thread in the Spybot forum so you can read all about the problem
from start to finish. At the moment, all the Net-Integration forums are down
for maintenance, but keep trying the link.

http://forums.net-integration.net/in...iew=getnewpost

The problem started in the Browser & Plugins thread. Then they referred me
to the Malware Removal thread to rule out malware, and finally I was sent
back to the Browser & Plugins thread since the problem is not malware
related. Appropriate links are within the thread.

At this point I am ready to try reinstalling Windows (XP Pro SP1) or
reinstalling SP2, plus all Windows Updates, unless there is something else
to try first. I have never done this before and do not know where to begin.

In my next posts, I can tell you all my current network settings and all
currently installed Windows components. I can tell you in exactly which
order all Windows Updates were installed. My first post in this thread has
my Belarc Advisor information about hotfixes.


"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
Chuck, I am having Internet access problems and Browser problems every time
the computer reboots. Sometimes it takes 2-5 minutes for Internet Explorer
to load my home page. There is no network access or Internet access until
that successfully occurs. After IE loads successfully that first time after
reboot, it loads fast and normally during the rest of that Windows session,
when opening multiple browser Windows, or when logging on as a different
user, and I have full network access to the other XP computer. But on the
next reboot, I have to wait for IE to load again before I have access.

So far, we do not know the cause, but it is a problem with only my computer.
Scott doesn't have a problem with his PC. The techs at Spybot
Net-Integration forums have determined that it is not malware related. They
think it is Windows related, possibly something that happened during the
last System Restore. Hopefully, they will be able to help me fix it. Once
that problem is solved, I will return here and continue our network
discussion and have you assist me in hooking up the two Win9x laptops.

You will be pleased to know that I did rewire the network back to the way it
was where all connections go to the ethernet hub. No more USB. That was
working very well for a few days, but then something happened. I do not know
if it was a result of installing a bad program or what. The problem seemed
to be fixed after a system restore, but it returned after I reset TCP/IP. I
am awaiting a reply in the Net-Integration forum to see what my next step
is. It is good to have a problem covered in only one forum rather than two
forums or groups at the same time. Less confusion.

Until this problem is fixed, I do not want to change any system settings or
install new software or hardware because it could make my problems worse. I
will include my original post here as well as your reply when I am able to
return to this topic.


Well, I reviewed the N-I Forum posts, and I'm not clear exactly which repair
techniques you tried.

You say that this specific computer is the only one experiencing these symptoms.
When these symptoms are observed, are the other computers in use? Are the same
web pages which you can't access from this computer immediately accessible from
the others?

Do you have any idea what your computer is doing while you wait for the home
page to load? Have you tried another home page? Have you tried this home page,
by ip address?

Get Process Explorer (free) from
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml. Provides way more
information than Task Manager.
And Port Explorer (free) from
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/portexplorer/index.php?page=home will show you
what network connections your computer is actually opening, and what processes
are opening them. Also, Autoruns (also free, and also from SysInternals)
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml will show you
specifically what process are started automatically.

Maybe Process Explorer, in conjunction with Port Explorer, will show you some
clues.

This could be LSP/Winsock / TCP/IP corruption. There are several tools which
have different success for different cases, I note that one or two of these web
pages were referenced, but I'm not clear which of these diagnoses / tools you
did try.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259

If XP RTM or Service Pack 1:
1. Backup and delete the following registry keys:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Winsock
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Winsock2
2. Reboot.
3. Open the network connections folder, right click your network connection, and
click Properties.
4. Click Install | Protocol | Add.
5. Click "Have Disk...", type "\windows\inf" in the box, and click OK.
6. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", then click OK.
7. Reboot.

If XP SP2:
1. Start - Run - "cmd".
2. Type "netsh winsock reset catalog" into the command window.

Give LSP-Fix http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm, WinsockFix
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257, or WinsockXPFix
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html a shot.

If no help yet, reset TCP/IP.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357

Start - Run - "cmd". Type "netsh int ip reset c:\netsh.txt" into the command
window.

Also I note some suspicion that you have a hardware problem. Have you tried
another network card? Have you tried hardware diagnostic for the card currently
installed? Checked with the vendor for up to date drivers?

With all due respect to the folks at N-I (and thanks to them for supporting
Spybot, a very useful tool), I don't see that their volume of posts, nor their
depth of miscellaneous technical knowledge, is that great. I would have
recommended SpywareInfo, which currently has a higher post volume, a lot of
technical expertise, and a training and certification program for their malware
detection and removal.

Reinstallation of the operating system is certainly an option here. But if the
problem is something diagnosable, or if it is related to something you have done
to date, it's possible that the problem will reoccur, which will make you even
more frustrated if it does. If you don't mind possibly repeating what you may
have covered at N-I, I'll work with you to the limit of my knowledge, and others
here may provide ideas too.

BTW, posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than
wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a
bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
internet - read this article.
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm

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My email is AT DOT
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