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Curious and considering it.
Recent custom build with Intel core 17 4790, 16 gigs of ram, 256 gig ssd for c:, 2tb drive for docs and such. Also using several externals for backups and other storage. On this type of system where 8.1 seems to run well and very fast. The question is would win 10 be the same or better? Currently running win 10 on 2 other machines that belong to the wife and she likes it. I understand people not wanting to lose win 7 and also for the "other" generation that does not have the ability or want to change. I am not looking to start a flame war but I have noticed that there has been a huge drop off in posts on alt.comp.os.windows-8 since 10 came out. |
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On 14/05/2016 01:15, Drew wrote:
Curious and considering it. Recent custom build with Intel core 17 4790, 16 gigs of ram, 256 gig ssd for c:, 2tb drive for docs and such. Also using several externals for backups and other storage. On this type of system where 8.1 seems to run well and very fast. The question is would win 10 be the same or better? Bette. I have installed Windows 10 on this machine: Upgraded MAchine Spec http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/e6850cf6-d755-4390-a411-572e1268ed73/2016-05-14_0125.png Currently running win 10 on 2 other machines that belong to the wife and she likes it. Fantastic. You'll have more good time with her! I understand people not wanting to lose win 7 they are idiots. and also for the "other" generation that does not have the ability or want to change. Just ignore them. Treat them like other nutters on your high street. I am not looking to start a flame war but I have noticed that there has been a huge drop off in posts on alt.comp.os.windows-8 since 10 came out. Windows 8 has died long time ago. the only person still using is that octogenarian by the name of Keith Nutter. |
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Drew wrote:
Curious and considering it. Recent custom build with Intel core 17 4790, 16 gigs of ram, 256 gig ssd for c:, 2tb drive for docs and such. Also using several externals for backups and other storage. On this type of system where 8.1 seems to run well and very fast. The question is would win 10 be the same or better? Currently running win 10 on 2 other machines that belong to the wife and she likes it. I understand people not wanting to lose win 7 and also for the "other" generation that does not have the ability or want to change. I am not looking to start a flame war but I have noticed that there has been a huge drop off in posts on alt.comp.os.windows-8 since 10 came out. It'll be "same". Both Win8 and Win10 reserve cycles for their own purposes. This is most noticeable if you benchmark something on Win7 on a dual core, then test Win8 or Win10 and see how the benchmark compares. Win8 and Win10 should be within a hair of one another. Win10 has a slightly faster program loader, when under a computing load. If you run 7ZIP with 2x threads as there are virtual cores, then try to start Firefox, it takes 60 seconds for Firefox to start on Win8, and 10 seconds for Firefox to start on Win10. On WinXP, it takes two or three seconds to start (unloaded, at least). Both the program loaded and the Task Manager on WinXP, are better than anything that comes afterward. So they would be my "reference point" for benchmarking. An OS that worked... ******* I give my standard warning I give someone interested in testing 500 Linux distros. Back up the computer. Install something. Test it. If you don't like it, restore the computer from backup. This is especially the case, when setting up multiboot OS drives. I had three Linux OSes on a drive, and was aiming to add my fourth, when the fourth OS erased the other three OSes. And I didn't have a backup. (Debian did that. Be careful! ) Do not rely on the "reversion" capability of Win10 installations, to get back to the Win8.1 qualifying OS. Tiny details will get missed if you do that. If you make a backup first, however, everything gets put back the way you had it. The other general rule of thumb, is *only* the disk which is the installation target, should be connected to the computer during an OS installation. This applies no matter what OS is involved. This prevents "accidents" from happening, where later, unplugging the second disk seems to magically cause the first disk to stop booting. If the second disk is not even present during the installation phase, it's pretty hard for such "accidents" to happen. Paul |
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On 5/13/2016 8:27 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 14/05/2016 01:15, Drew wrote: I understand people not wanting to lose win 7 they are idiots. Not if you like using Windows Media Center. I also installed Win 10 on a Win 7 machine (Dell Inspiron N5110) and it runs faster with Win 7...and that includes boot times. |
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On 14/05/2016 02:09, Ron wrote:
Not if you like using Windows Media Center. What is Media Center? How do you use it in business to make profits? Can a Tax/Accounting practise use it? what about employee productivity? does it go up or down by using Media Center? -- /*This post contains rich text (HTML). if you don't like it then you can kill-filter the poster without crying about it like a small baby so that you don't see this poster's posts ever again.*/ /*This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology.*/ |
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Drew wrote in :
Curious and considering it. Recent custom build with Intel core 17 4790, 16 gigs of ram, 256 gig ssd for c:, 2tb drive for docs and such. Also using several externals for backups and other storage. On this type of system where 8.1 seems to run well and very fast. The question is would win 10 be the same or better? I am not a fan of some of the new features, but on my system Win10 seems to run faster than 8.1 did. My System: AMD A10 5700K four core CPU, 24 GB of RAM (this will probably be the last PC I build, so I wanted to be ready for anything!), had a 128GB SSD for boot drive that was very nice till it died one day without warning. Am leary now of replacing it with another SSD. I have three WD Black 2TB drives, two in a RAID 1 array and one standalone, plus several other drives. I have a big honking CPU cooler, and have been able to run two video transcodes at the same time without raising the CPU temp more than a degree or two, and without maxing the system. Win10 works for me. |
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On 14/05/2016 8:15 AM, Drew wrote:
I understand people not wanting to lose win 7 and also for the "other" generation that does not have the ability or want to change.... This belief enable Window$ 7 to be sold at higher prices. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Tim wrote:
Drew wrote in : Curious and considering it. Recent custom build with Intel core 17 4790, 16 gigs of ram, 256 gig ssd for c:, 2tb drive for docs and such. Also using several externals for backups and other storage. On this type of system where 8.1 seems to run well and very fast. The question is would win 10 be the same or better? I am not a fan of some of the new features, but on my system Win10 seems to run faster than 8.1 did. My System: AMD A10 5700K four core CPU, 24 GB of RAM (this will probably be the last PC I build, so I wanted to be ready for anything!), had a 128GB SSD for boot drive that was very nice till it died one day without warning. Am leary now of replacing it with another SSD. I have three WD Black 2TB drives, two in a RAID 1 array and one standalone, plus several other drives. I have a big honking CPU cooler, and have been able to run two video transcodes at the same time without raising the CPU temp more than a degree or two, and without maxing the system. Win10 works for me. There are some benchmarks here, which cover more areas than I'd be able to cover. What I really want to see, is this suite run on a dual core processor, because I feel the dual core highlights the details of the OSes better. http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-...-vs-windows-7/ Tomshardware did a test a while back, where they used a hex core processor overclocked to 4GHz, and then benchmarked it. Which tends to swamp out any details of "wasteful-ness" in any particular OS tested. Their conclusion at the time is that gameplay wasn't affected by OS used. It's so hard to find someone willing to test with gutless hardware. More people own gutless hardware, than own $2000 computers. Paul |
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On 5/13/16 6:58 PM, Paul wrote:
Do not rely on the "reversion" capability of Win10 installations, to get back to the Win8.1 qualifying OS. Tiny details will get missed if you do that. If you make a backup first, however, everything gets put back the way you had it. +1 I work 9 hr./wk at a PC shop, and we see people bringing in their systems where the reversion from 10 to X has not gone well. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 44.0 Thunderbird 38.0.1 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 5/13/2016 8:15 PM, Drew wrote:
Curious and considering it. Recent custom build with Intel core 17 4790, 16 gigs of ram, 256 gig ssd for c:, 2tb drive for docs and such. Also using several externals for backups and other storage. On this type of system where 8.1 seems to run well and very fast. The question is would win 10 be the same or better? Currently running win 10 on 2 other machines that belong to the wife and she likes it. I understand people not wanting to lose win 7 and also for the "other" generation that does not have the ability or want to change. I am not looking to start a flame war but I have noticed that there has been a huge drop off in posts on alt.comp.os.windows-8 since 10 came out. Actually, I have an I7 5830, 16 GB 500GB SSD and 4TB spinner, homebuilt. I went from 7 to 8 to 8.1. My first attempt @ Win10 was mess because Windows was not able to tell "if my computer was ready". 8.1 backup was restored and I tried the update again...this time w/o any security software running. The process then was painless. I find bootup and shutdown much faster, however, I am using a local account with most of its enhancements that phone home turned off. I have never had the PC crash and the OS has run flawlessly. I don't think the upgrade was necessary and would have stayed with 8.1 but the price was right. D. |
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On 5/14/2016 6:20 AM, DMP wrote:
On 5/13/2016 8:15 PM, Drew wrote: I find bootup and shutdown much faster, however, I am using a local account with most of its enhancements that phone home turned off. I have never had the PC crash and the OS has run flawlessly. I don't think the upgrade was necessary and would have stayed with 8.1 but the price was right. D. I have a fully updated Windows 8.1 computer. I upgraded to Windows 10 in the weeks after it came out, but reverted to Windows 8.1. Now after many of the bugs have been worked out of Windows 10 I would like to try again. As I understand there are two ways to upgrade. One where Windows 10 installs over Windows 8.1, this would preserve all of the current drivers on the computer. The other option is a clean install. If I go for a clean install, will the installer find the proper drivers for my computer, or will I have to locate them all as part of the installation and manually install them. I want to spend the minimal time in upgrading. |
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On 5/14/2016 8:30 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/14/2016 6:20 AM, DMP wrote: On 5/13/2016 8:15 PM, Drew wrote: I find bootup and shutdown much faster, however, I am using a local account with most of its enhancements that phone home turned off. I have never had the PC crash and the OS has run flawlessly. I don't think the upgrade was necessary and would have stayed with 8.1 but the price was right. D. I have a fully updated Windows 8.1 computer. I upgraded to Windows 10 in the weeks after it came out, but reverted to Windows 8.1. Now after many of the bugs have been worked out of Windows 10 I would like to try again. As I understand there are two ways to upgrade. One where Windows 10 installs over Windows 8.1, this would preserve all of the current drivers on the computer. The other option is a clean install. If I go for a clean install, will the installer find the proper drivers for my computer, or will I have to locate them all as part of the installation and manually install them. I want to spend the minimal time in upgrading. IMHO, t's always better to clean install with a new OS; I upgraded only with my laptop and that went off without a hitch; so I took the plunge and did the same with my desktop, but not before updating all my stuff.I didn't follow my own advice.....;-) Check the Win10 compatibility thing to see if you have any offensive hardware; do some google searches to see if other folks had any trouble with any of your hardware and act accordingly. Just as an example..we have a older of laptop that I was thinking of upgrading to Win10; my research told me that the hybrid video setup nvidia/Intel would be a problem; it could be overcome, but at the expense of an HDMIport and the inability to ever update the video drivers. That laptop will be Win7 forever. If your hardware is relatively new Win10 should find the stuff; clean install best, but not before doing a backup and gathering the drivers that you think could cause an issue. |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/14/2016 6:20 AM, DMP wrote: On 5/13/2016 8:15 PM, Drew wrote: I find bootup and shutdown much faster, however, I am using a local account with most of its enhancements that phone home turned off. I have never had the PC crash and the OS has run flawlessly. I don't think the upgrade was necessary and would have stayed with 8.1 but the price was right. D. I have a fully updated Windows 8.1 computer. I upgraded to Windows 10 in the weeks after it came out, but reverted to Windows 8.1. Now after many of the bugs have been worked out of Windows 10 I would like to try again. As I understand there are two ways to upgrade. One where Windows 10 installs over Windows 8.1, this would preserve all of the current drivers on the computer. The other option is a clean install. If I go for a clean install, will the installer find the proper drivers for my computer, or will I have to locate them all as part of the installation and manually install them. I want to spend the minimal time in upgrading. I just installed Win10 here a couple hours ago (test install), and I went to Device Manager and asked it to "Update" the driver for a device in there. It can search online for a driver. It's only if it cannot find a driver, you have to dredge for it yourself. For example, no OS was able to find the driver for my PCI Express parallel port card. So that will be extra work, when I get around to it. The OS is otherwise fully functional. And the Win10 DVD did install the Basic Display Adapter for my 7950 video card (a card with no Win10 driver). That's the fallback driver, when no manufacturer driver is available. An attempt to search for a driver, of course it failed. The Win10 screen in this case, will be staying at 1024x768, as that is all the Basic Display Adapter offers for resolution. Even if your screen is 1920x1080, it runs at 1024x768 (ugly). Paul |
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On 05/14/2016 08:30 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/14/2016 6:20 AM, DMP wrote: On 5/13/2016 8:15 PM, Drew wrote: I find bootup and shutdown much faster, however, I am using a local account with most of its enhancements that phone home turned off. I have never had the PC crash and the OS has run flawlessly. I don't think the upgrade was necessary and would have stayed with 8.1 but the price was right. D. I have a fully updated Windows 8.1 computer. I upgraded to Windows 10 in the weeks after it came out, but reverted to Windows 8.1. Now after many of the bugs have been worked out of Windows 10 I would like to try again. As I understand there are two ways to upgrade. One where Windows 10 installs over Windows 8.1, this would preserve all of the current drivers on the computer. The other option is a clean install. If I go for a clean install, will the installer find the proper drivers for my computer, or will I have to locate them all as part of the installation and manually install them. I want to spend the minimal time in upgrading. As with all new OSs, they usually have a better set of drivers and cover a better set of hardware. BUT... I'd make sure I had all my unique drivers before starting, you just never know. Doing a clean install is never going to be minimal, but I understand your comment. I got a laugh outta that one. Kinda like saying I want to go from LA to SF along rt 1 coastal scenic route but I want to take the fastest way. ... Just ribbing you, the devil made me do it! |
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