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Old February 15th 19, 04:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
aioli
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Probably not just thunderbird but any email or similar app.

I had Thunderbird running in email mode.

I started a VPN to access a newsgroup site that seemed to be blocking me.

I made my benign post then noticed that all my email accounts had
messages from GMAIL and MS that my email was under attack.

Well it was just that Thunderbird was checking my email accounts with a
very different IP address.

So I am having to go to each account and tell them it was me.

Remembering next time to shut off any email app while on the VPN.

And now on the radio there are folks pushing Norton VPN etc and what
chaos that will cause for email accounts.

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Old February 15th 19, 07:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default VPN vs Thunderbird email

AIOLI wrote:

Probably not just thunderbird but any email or similar app.

I had Thunderbird running in email mode.

I started a VPN to access a newsgroup site that seemed to be blocking me.

I made my benign post then noticed that all my email accounts had
messages from GMAIL and MS that my email was under attack.

Well it was just that Thunderbird was checking my email accounts with a
very different IP address.

So I am having to go to each account and tell them it was me.

Remembering next time to shut off any email app while on the VPN.

And now on the radio there are folks pushing Norton VPN etc and what
chaos that will cause for email accounts.


That seems like an awful lot of effort for "a benign post".

How about putting your email on one tool, and your USENET NEWS
on a second tool ? That might make the control scheme a bit
more natural. I separate mine, and I'm not even sending
benign posts.

Paul
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Old February 15th 19, 08:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
aioli
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The newsgroup said I was connected too long and locked me out.
The other newwsgroup I use is down.

I did not close Seamonkey.

I was monitoring the XP and Win 7 newsgroups.

So using the VPN got me a new IP and allowed me to both look and post.


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Old February 16th 19, 02:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Nil[_5_]
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On 15 Feb 2019, AIOLI wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

The newsgroup said I was connected too long and locked me out.
The other newwsgroup I use is down.


Newsgroups, as in "Usenet", do not and cannot lock you out, unless
perhaps you're talking about a moderated goup, in which case it's the
moderator that's locking you out, not the group itself.
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Old February 16th 19, 04:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Cartographer
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Nil wrote:
On 15 Feb 2019, AIOLI wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

The newsgroup said I was connected too long and locked me out.
The other newwsgroup I use is down.


Newsgroups, as in "Usenet", do not and cannot lock you out, unless
perhaps you're talking about a moderated goup, in which case it's the
moderator that's locking you out, not the group itself.



News *servers* can lock one out by blocking one's IP address from
connecting to the server.

The previous poster is confusing newsgroups with news *servers*.

The previous poster has been violating the Aioe.org news server's terms
of use and has had his IP address banned by the Aioe.org news server.


REF: AIOE Terms of use https://news.aioe.org/manual/termsofuse/

1. Access rules
* No more that four concurrent connections
...
* No persistent connections
...
* No more than 600 connections per day
...
* No waste of system resources
...
Any IP address that exceeds these activity thresholds is
banned from the server.

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Old February 16th 19, 12:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Cartographer
writes:
Nil wrote:
On 15 Feb 2019, AIOLI wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

The newsgroup said I was connected too long and locked me out.
The other newwsgroup I use is down.


Newsgroups, as in "Usenet", do not and cannot lock you out, unless
perhaps you're talking about a moderated goup, in which case it's the
moderator that's locking you out, not the group itself.



News *servers* can lock one out by blocking one's IP address from
connecting to the server.


Yes; you cannot be "connected to" a newsgroup - that has no meaning;
it's like trying to measure your height in kilogrammes.

The previous poster is confusing newsgroups with news *servers*.

The previous poster has been violating the Aioe.org news server's terms
of use and has had his IP address banned by the Aioe.org news server.


REF: AIOE Terms of use https://news.aioe.org/manual/termsofuse/

1. Access rules
* No more that four concurrent connections
...
* No persistent connections


That must be the one he broke.
...
* No more than 600 connections per day
...
* No waste of system resources
...
Any IP address that exceeds these activity thresholds is
banned from the server.

His "The other newwsgroup I use is down" supports the suggestion he's
confusing 'groups (of which there are, what - about 100,000?) with
servers (maybe 5 or 10 free ones, perhaps a few tens of commercial ones
[though the ones offered by those ISPs who still do are often just a
front-end to a third-party one]).
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