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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks.
After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the other on the left half of the screen. Freaking idiots. After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
John Doe wrote:
After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. Even Win7 users seem to run all programs maximised, all of the time, even if they have a huge landscape monitor (or two), even if they're editing a portrait document, I give up trying to explain ... |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
John Doe wrote:
No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks. After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the other on the left half of the screen. Freaking idiots. After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional. It sorta works. Sorta. https://i.postimg.cc/qMfbLkjz/side-by-side.gif It's the Ghost of Christmas Past. Paul |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 09:52:32 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote: John Doe wrote: After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. Even Win7 users seem to run all programs maximised, all of the time, even if they have a huge landscape monitor (or two), even if they're editing a portrait document, I give up trying to explain ... I use Windows 7 with the application I'm using in a 12" by 8" centralised window. Most shortcut icons are on the screen top and side borders. The Agent, Chrome and hidden icons are on the task bar. I've used that configuration since WNT but I couldn't get it to stay put on W10 so I went back to W7. Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
Paul wrote:
John Doe wrote: No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks. After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the other on the left half of the screen. Freaking idiots. After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional. It sorta works. Sorta. https://i.postimg.cc/qMfbLkjz/side-by-side.gif It's the Ghost of Christmas Past. In the good old days... I had a horrendous looking crash with Windows and colors bleeding all over the screen. I pulled up Dr. Watson in the center of that mess saying "There is nothing obviously wrong with your system". I should have kept that screenshot, but we didn't have Flickr at the time. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On 14/02/2019 11:48, Paul wrote:
John Doe wrote: No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks. After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the other on the left half of the screen. Freaking idiots. After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional. It sorta works. Sorta. https://i.postimg.cc/qMfbLkjz/side-by-side.gif It's the Ghost of Christmas Past. Â*Â* Paul I don't use Chrome but with Edge it works perfectly - side by side or stacked. Is the OP cursing the wrong set of developers? |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
Wolf K wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: John Doe wrote: After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. Even Win7 users seem to run all programs maximised, all of the time, even if they have a huge landscape monitor (or two), even if they're editing a portrait document, I give up trying to explain ... ???? Not here. The window reopens in its last state. I believe the poster was making fun of the idea that nobody bothers or needs to arrange windows on the desktop. As for windows reopening in their last state, that is still true. That applies to categories of windows. For example... How the next WordPad window opens depends on how the last WordPad window was closed. Same goes for unique third-party windows, individually. But that is another subject. This subject is about arranging windows on the desktop by right clicking on the taskbar and making a selection. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 09:52:32 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote: John Doe wrote: After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. Even Win7 users seem to run all programs maximised, all of the time, even if they have a huge landscape monitor (or two), even if they're editing a portrait document, I give up trying to explain ... I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of off hand are Agent and Putty. Having said that, a friend showed me his home office where he mounted a 55" TV on the wall above his desk, which he uses as his monitor. Sitting that close, he can't see the whole screen by moving his eyes, he has to swing his head back and forth. For me, that would be too much. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
Char Jackson wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: John Doe wrote: After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. Even Win7 users seem to run all programs maximised, all of the time, even if they have a huge landscape monitor (or two), even if they're editing a portrait document, I give up trying to explain ... I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of off hand are Agent and Putty. Usually switching to the right window is just alt plus tab, but that requires two hands or some manual dexterity. My solution to that annoyance is a voice command without looking for anything. I ran almost all applications full screen when I had small monitors. I still run some applications, like Chrome, full screen. But there are times when I need to tile Chrome windows. The reason Windows has always had the ability to arrange windows on the desktop is because many PC users need to do so from time to time. The current implementation is dysfunctional. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
Being a technician, something the below poster is not, I just did a
pristine clean install of Windows 10 to test its claim. It is BS, as expected. This is a good example of a smartphone, or perhaps Linux, user who has no idea about using a PC, that shouldn't give advice in this group... -- MikeS MikeS fred.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED.Ft7tT9JuZtYtb3d5NWI 6+Q.user.gioia.aioe.org!not-for-mail From: MikeS MikeS fred.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:13:54 +0000 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 29 Message-ID: q43m22$1s16$1 gioia.aioe.org References: q41e1p$evh$1 dont-email.me q43ki9$468$1 dont-email.me NNTP-Posting-Host: Ft7tT9JuZtYtb3d5NWI6+Q.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:88925 On 14/02/2019 11:48, Paul wrote: John Doe wrote: No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks. After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the other on the left half of the screen. Freaking idiots. After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional. It sorta works. Sorta. https://i.postimg.cc/qMfbLkjz/side-by-side.gif It's the Ghost of Christmas Past. ¶ÿ¶ÿ Paul I don't use Chrome but with Edge it works perfectly - side by side or stacked. Is the OP cursing the wrong set of developers? |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:17:09 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote: I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of off hand are Agent and Putty. Interesting. I'm the exact opposite. I run 0% of my applications full screen. I have two 24" monitors, and on each screen I always have three applications running, each covering about 80% of the full screen. The upper left-hand corners of them all stick out behind the others and it's very easy to click a corner and have it come forward. When I run an application other those six standard one, I normally run it only for a short time, so I open it, run it, and then close it. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:10:07 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:17:09 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of off hand are Agent and Putty. Interesting. I'm the exact opposite. I run 0% of my applications full screen. I have two 24" monitors, and on each screen I always have three applications running, each covering about 80% of the full screen. The upper left-hand corners of them all stick out behind the others and it's very easy to click a corner and have it come forward. Then you're doing something that I haven't figured out. g When I arrange 3 windows that way, clicking on the second or third window indeed brings that window to the front, but now the window that was on top is hidden behind the window that is now on top. How do you bring a window to the front and have it automatically move so that it doesn't block the parts of the other windows that you want to use to bring them forward? On a related note, I always set the Task Bar to Never Combine taskbar icons. That gives me a view of each application and access to any of them with a single click. When I run an application other those six standard one, I normally run it only for a short time, so I open it, run it, and then close it. That makes sense. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:34:59 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:10:07 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:17:09 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of off hand are Agent and Putty. Interesting. I'm the exact opposite. I run 0% of my applications full screen. I have two 24" monitors, and on each screen I always have three applications running, each covering about 80% of the full screen. The upper left-hand corners of them all stick out behind the others and it's very easy to click a corner and have it come forward. Then you're doing something that I haven't figured out. g When I arrange 3 windows that way, clicking on the second or third window indeed brings that window to the front, but now the window that was on top is hidden behind the window that is now on top. How do you bring a window to the front and have it automatically move so that it doesn't block the parts of the other windows that you want to use to bring them forward? It doesn't move, automatically or any other way. It's how the three are arranged. Their upper left hand corners look like this ____ | _|___ | _|_____ | | On a related note, I always set the Task Bar to Never Combine taskbar icons. That gives me a view of each application and access to any of them with a single click. Same for me. And I have the task bar on the lefthand side of the screen, rather than the bottom. That provides room for many more icons |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:56:45 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:34:59 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:10:07 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:17:09 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of off hand are Agent and Putty. Interesting. I'm the exact opposite. I run 0% of my applications full screen. I have two 24" monitors, and on each screen I always have three applications running, each covering about 80% of the full screen. The upper left-hand corners of them all stick out behind the others and it's very easy to click a corner and have it come forward. Then you're doing something that I haven't figured out. g When I arrange 3 windows that way, clicking on the second or third window indeed brings that window to the front, but now the window that was on top is hidden behind the window that is now on top. How do you bring a window to the front and have it automatically move so that it doesn't block the parts of the other windows that you want to use to bring them forward? It doesn't move, automatically or any other way. It's how the three are arranged. Their upper left hand corners look like this ____ | _|___ | _|_____ | | Got it, thanks very much. I won't be changing the way I use Windows, but it's nice to see how others do it. I'm also thinking that if your windows cover 80% of the screen and mine cover 100%, we aren't that far apart. On a related note, I always set the Task Bar to Never Combine taskbar icons. That gives me a view of each application and access to any of them with a single click. Same for me. And I have the task bar on the lefthand side of the screen, rather than the bottom. That provides room for many more icons I've tried left side, right side, and even top, but I always come back to bottom. |
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Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/?
That after a clean install of Windows 10 (nearly 1809). It is slightly better than my installation, but still garbage. Putting three windows "side by side" according to the current geniuses at Microsoft means putting one window covering the upper half of the left half of the screen, and the other two windows covering about two thirds of the right half and stacked one on top of the other. Can they be that idiotic? Or are they just trying to cover for their ineptness? It's like we live in the age of idiotic, or perhaps drug crazed, programmers. Google loves screwing with YouTube, about every other day you can notice them messing with it. I would like to scramble their programming tools and see how they like it. I wrote: No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks. After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the other on the left half of the screen. Freaking idiots. After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional. |
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