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Old September 11th 19, 05:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm
usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?

TIA


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Old September 11th 19, 06:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Ken,

Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?


That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do (and as
you did not mention that ...)

Personally I've disabled javascript, and installed a plugin
(RequestPolicy)which stops any-and-all third-party content from loading.

The end result is that I only see content from the page im visting*. Which
certainly improves download/display times. :-)

*The plugin (ofcourse) allows whitelisting on a site-site basis or
globally.

If you want a bit more control than JS fully on or off than you could also
take a look at the NoScript plugin

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old September 11th 19, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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KenK wrote:

I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm
usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?


Have you tried using a new profile in Firefox?

If more than just Firefox is slow, see what happens when you boot into
Windows' safe mode.
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Old September 11th 19, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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KenK wrote:
I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm
usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?

TIA



Remember that Javascript, the majority of web monkeys are quite
happy to design code that "loops and burns a core". It's a fetish
of sorts. This cannot end well for any computer, really. Eventually
a dialog pops up "a script is not responding, would you like
to commit suicide or keep waiting ?".

That's one of the reasons that no browser can ever be "happy".

So we look for lightweight (Ha!) browsers, with a weird heritage,
in the hopes something good will happen.

I get me a click-bait article.

https://mashtips.com/best-lightweigh...s-for-windows/

And the one suggestion that is relatively unique, is Midori
(windows version). It uses Webkit, which is the same as
Safari, and the windows version of Safari stopped some time
ago. The Webkit engine on the other hand, is probably
still under development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_browser

https://www.midori-browser.org/#section2

Call us 24/7.

We are there for your support for now only via phone in Spanish
+57 300-301-xxxx

Where to find us

Bogotá Colombia CL 84 NO. 28 B 95 BL 4 AP 202

Clicking the download button... does nothing.
Not an auspicious start :-/

When I use SRWare Iron, an additional text string and button
appear. Which means "the web page uses such whizzy features,
no ordinary browser need apply". Neat. I could have "guessed"
this URL I suppose, but I wanted to play the part
of the unsuspecting customer. Now, because the Portable Windows
version (54MB) won't show the link on the screen, I "guessed"
at it and replaced EXE with ZIP, and that seems to be downloading
right now.

https://www.midori-browser.org/download/

"Currently the version for Windows is 0.5 and since Midori is in
version 7, the update will be available soon with many improvements
and a more updated cycle." Uhuh.

"Installer Windows"

https://www.midori-browser.org/wp-co...0.5.11_32_.exe

"Portable Windows"

https://www.midori-browser.org/wp-co...0.5.11_32_.zip

It's a good thing I like playing "Download Ferret".

There was a comment somewhere that said it "crashed occasionally".

Further comedy awaits when you open the ZIP for a look and
see a 4MB copy of "gdb.exe" staring you in the face. That's
the GNU debugger, suitable for crashes and such :-) "Better
wear a raincoat - looks like rain." Nothing telegraphs your
belief in your code, like including a debugger. I wonder
if it's compiled with the symbols still in it ?

midori.exe 130,292 bytes

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/...938e3b/details

The file dates are from 2015, so the 2018/08 in the path
name is bogus. The large number of DLLs, are being loaded by
the webkit DLL. To get the work done. This is similar in a sense,
to how Firefox has a 50MB DLL file in its collection.

libwebkitgtk-3.0-0.dll 31,269,317 bytes

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/...e106d9/details

ADVAPI32.dll
GDI32.dll
KERNEL32.dll
OPENGL32.DLL === this is how it draws stuff on a Windows screen (no DirectX)
SHLWAPI.dll
USER32.dll
VERSION.dll
icui18n50.dll \___ Localization support ?
icuuc50.dll /
libatk-1.0-0.dll
libcairo-2.dll ---- printing ?
libenchant.dll
libfontconfig-1.dll
libfreetype-6.dll
libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll
libgdk-3-0.dll
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll
libgio-2.0-0.dll
libglib-2.0-0.dll
libgobject-2.0-0.dll
libgstapp-1.0-0.dll
libgstaudio-1.0-0.dll
libgstbase-1.0-0.dll
libgstfft-1.0-0.dll
libgstpbutils-1.0-0.dll
libgstreamer-1.0-0.dll
libgstvideo-1.0-0.dll
libgtk-3-0.dll ---- how it brings its "theme" to Windows (decorations)
libharfbuzz-0.dll
libharfbuzz-icu-0.dll
libintl-8.dll
libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll
libjpeg-62.dll
libpango-1.0-0.dll
libpng16-16.dll
libsoup-2.4-1.dll
libsqlite3-0.dll
libstdc++-6.dll
libwebp-5.dll
libwinpthread-1.dll ---- threading (so it doesn't jam up)
libxml2-2.dll
libxslt-1.dll
msvcrt.dll ---- C runtime file
zlib1.dll

If it supports https, yet uses design from another era (no
compositing), who knows, it might be a win.

Here is a picture of it, and it tells us it support TLS 1.2.
The latest standard is TLS 1.3 (with CHACHA20). Still, that's
a lot better than Internet Explorer on WinXP.

https://i.postimg.cc/bNDfx9bV/midori.gif

Paul
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Old September 11th 19, 06:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default Faster browser?

"R.Wieser" wrote in
:

Ken,

Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?


That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do
(and as you did not mention that ...)


Gmail, Google News, Google and weather.

Personally I've disabled javascript, and installed a plugin
(RequestPolicy)which stops any-and-all third-party content from
loading.

The end result is that I only see content from the page im visting*.
Which certainly improves download/display times. :-)

*The plugin (ofcourse) allows whitelisting on a site-site basis or
globally.

If you want a bit more control than JS fully on or off than you could
also take a look at the NoScript plugin

Regards,
Rudy Wieser






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Old September 11th 19, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default Faster browser?

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault.
I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works
well I can use on my old XP system?


Have you tried using a new profile in Firefox?


How do I do that?


If more than just Firefox is slow, see what happens when you boot into
Windows' safe mode.

How do I do that?




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Old September 11th 19, 07:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Faster browser?

Ken,

Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?


That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be
able to do (and as you did not mention that ...)


Gmail, Google News, Google and weather.


Than no. Those are most likely fluffed-up with sh*tloads of javascript,
which makes them slow no matter what you do.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old September 11th 19, 08:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

KenK wrote:

I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault.
I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works
well I can use on my old XP system?


Have you tried using a new profile in Firefox?


How do I do that?


https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...0new%20profile

If more than just Firefox is slow, see what happens when you boot into
Windows' safe mode.


How do I do that?


https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+xp+safe+mode
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Old September 11th 19, 10:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_7_]
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In message , R.Wieser
writes:
Ken,

Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?

That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be
able to do (and as you did not mention that ...)


Gmail, Google News, Google and weather.


Than no. Those are most likely fluffed-up with sh*tloads of javascript,
which makes them slow no matter what you do.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


I use Firefox 27.0; Google the search engine works fine for me, starting
at https://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?hl=en . I can't comment on
gmail, as I don't use it - assuming Google News means Google Groups,
then I think it wouldn't work, but then if you want speed I wouldn't use
that way of accessing news via any browser, but a proper news client
instead. As for weather, unless there's an obvious default in your part
of the world, you'll have to say which site:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/tn27 works OK-ish in F27 for where I am,
but generic https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather doesn't at the top (in common
with lots of sites [especially BBC ones], it seems to contain lots of
tall narrow columns), though does if I scroll down past the top bit.
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Old October 5th 19, 03:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Faster browser?

On 2019-9-12 0:34, KenK wrote:
I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm
usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?

Maybe try this:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/178306-...macintosh-too/
People say it really boosts their Firefox.


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Old October 8th 19, 04:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:05:40 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

Ken,

Is there something faster that also works well I can
use on my old XP system?

That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be
able to do (and as you did not mention that ...)


Gmail, Google News, Google and weather.


Than no. Those are most likely fluffed-up with sh*tloads of javascript,
which makes them slow no matter what you do.


I'm using Firefox 41.0.1, which was less bloated, and speeded up a
lot. Google keeps warning me that it can only show me HTML in Gmail,
which is faster and easier to use.

Facebook keeps threatening that it is going to stop supporting it, but
also won't let me into my main account, for which I use Maxthon.


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