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  #1  
Old January 19th 13, 05:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
W. eWatson[_2_]
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I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any
of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example,
suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?
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  #2  
Old January 19th 13, 06:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Nil[_2_]
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On 19 Jan 2013, "W. eWatson" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it.
Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.


What do you mean "packages"? As far as I know, there is no Lightscribe
capability included with Windows. You will therefore need to contact
the company that makes this unspecified "package."
  #4  
Old January 19th 13, 10:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any
of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example,
suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can DL
additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811
--
SC Tom


  #5  
Old January 20th 13, 12:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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SC Tom wrote:


"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can
DL additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811


I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high
contrast label.

Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have
a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe
media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label,
was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to
burn the data, that takes the fun out of it.

The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio.
In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label
that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough.

The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such
that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of
concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than
drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to
make them "pretty" :-)

Paul
  #6  
Old January 20th 13, 12:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
pjp[_9_]
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In article , says...

SC Tom wrote:


"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can
DL additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811


I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high
contrast label.

Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have
a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe
media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label,
was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to
burn the data, that takes the fun out of it.

The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio.
In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label
that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough.

The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such
that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of
concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than
drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to
make them "pretty" :-)


I kinda "plan ahead" for the disks I use Lightscribe on. That means I
can set it up, push the button and walk away for the approx. 20 min. it
takes to burn the label. I burn the "data" on the disk usually later at
my convenience (or it's been put on previously if known beforehand what
it'll be). Hence I don't find the time objectionable.

Tell the truth though, all I've ever used it for is a personal music cd
of my own playing. Wanted to make it fancier if/when I gave a copy to
friends etc.
  #7  
Old January 20th 13, 12:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
meagain
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Default Lightscribe

W. eWatson wrote:
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them
allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put
something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June...

The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as
you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time.


  #8  
Old January 20th 13, 03:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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Posts: 4,089
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"meagain" wrote in message
...
W. eWatson wrote:
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any
of them
allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I
want to put
something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June...

The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as
you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time.


The Template packages will let you write straight lines, but you're
restricted to certain sized spaces to write in. The templates are also free.
--
SC Tom


  #9  
Old January 20th 13, 04:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Rene Lamontagne[_2_]
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On 1/19/2013 6:44 PM, meagain wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them
allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I
want to put
something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June...

The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as
you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time.



I have used it primarily to do Linux Live Cds , Knoppix , Mint and a few
others Such as Programs which I buy online , Acronis true image, Tax
programs, etc.
It is still too slow, 20 to 25 minutes and I just don't like the
monochrome results, If they where in full color I might be more
enthusiastic.

Rene


  #10  
Old January 20th 13, 04:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"pjp" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

SC Tom wrote:


"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?

First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can
DL additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use.
Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe
Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811


I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high
contrast label.

Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have
a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe
media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label,
was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to
burn the data, that takes the fun out of it.

The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio.
In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label
that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough.

The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such
that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of
concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than
drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to
make them "pretty" :-)


I kinda "plan ahead" for the disks I use Lightscribe on. That means I
can set it up, push the button and walk away for the approx. 20 min. it
takes to burn the label. I burn the "data" on the disk usually later at
my convenience (or it's been put on previously if known beforehand what
it'll be). Hence I don't find the time objectionable.

Tell the truth though, all I've ever used it for is a personal music cd
of my own playing. Wanted to make it fancier if/when I gave a copy to
friends etc.


I usually write the data first, then test the disk before using the time to
write the label.

To Paul, I usually use the highest contrast for the few that I do on
widely-spaced occasions, and it comes out dark enough. I find that they
usually take 20-25 minutes, depending on the template I use (the more
detail, the longer the write time, I guess, although I don't see why that
would be true since it's spinning and burning at a constant velocity). I
thought at one time they were developing three- or four-color capability on
a single disk, but I guess that never panned out. I've seen the different
colored disks, but I still have a number of the gold ones left, so I'll
probably use them up before buying any newer ones.
--
SC Tom


  #11  
Old January 21st 13, 02:09 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
AlDrake
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On 1/19/2013 11:04 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 1/19/2013 6:44 PM, meagain wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them
allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I
want to put
something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June...

The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as
you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time.



I have used it primarily to do Linux Live Cds , Knoppix , Mint and a few
others Such as Programs which I buy online , Acronis true image, Tax
programs, etc.
It is still too slow, 20 to 25 minutes and I just don't like the
monochrome results, If they where in full color I might be more
enthusiastic.

Rene


It's still one step above using the marking pen don't you think? If I am
backing up an existing DVD I scan the label and scribe it to the copy.
Works for me.
  #12  
Old January 21st 13, 01:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Posts: 10,881
Default Lightscribe

"Paul" wrote:

SC Tom wrote:

"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?


First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can
DL additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811


I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high
contrast label.

Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have
a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe
media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label,
was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to
burn the data, that takes the fun out of it.

The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio.
In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label
that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough.

The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such
that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of
concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than
drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to
make them "pretty" :-)

Paul


Lightscribed labels (burned onto the cover side of a LS disc) will fade
over time. They start out somewhat dim, dim over time, and fade into
non-legibility. Some folks will put forth a major effort in designing
graphics for their labels only to have them mottle and fade away. See
some example images at:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/509687

When I first got a LS-capable optical drive, sure, I started playing
with it and even bought the more expensive LS media. I was disappointed
with the low contrast on the initial print and a buddy of mine showed
what happens if the discs are exposed to light, especially sunlight
(i.e., UV light). Unless you get special printers for optical discs
that use expensive long-term permanent inks, ink printing on the disc
also fades. I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or
laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis
easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent
that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating
on that same side where is the data.

While some users put the LS discs inside a zippered case thinking
they'll be protected from light, I've seen those LS discs get faded
after 1-1/2 years -- and the fading matches the rounded U-shaped slot in
the cover plastic (i.e., where the clear plastic wasn't over the disc is
where the disc is most faded). You also have to be careful what
material is used in whatever storage you use.

http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=97
http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=96

I believe the claim is that fading does not occur for 2 years when the
LS-labelled disc is exposed only to indoor light (which means no full
spectrum lighting). You want to hide these discs from sunlight. Heat
affects fade rate so don't leave the LS discs inside an optical drive
where temperatures are elevated. Apparently even humidity affects fade
rate. Those who are sloppy in handling optical media will find the oil
from their fingerprints also fades the LS image. With all the
precautions needed to preserve an otherwise crappy image, there didn't
seem much point in wasting the time to create LS images, buy the more
pricey discs, and spend the time burning the image onto the LS discs.

All you can do is slow the fading process. It will still fade. LS
doesn't produce permanent labels.
  #13  
Old January 21st 13, 02:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
"Paul" wrote:

SC Tom wrote:

"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?

First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can
DL additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811


I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high
contrast label.

Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have
a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe
media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label,
was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to
burn the data, that takes the fun out of it.

The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio.
In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label
that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough.

The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such
that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of
concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than
drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to
make them "pretty" :-)

Paul


Lightscribed labels (burned onto the cover side of a LS disc) will fade
over time. They start out somewhat dim, dim over time, and fade into
non-legibility. Some folks will put forth a major effort in designing
graphics for their labels only to have them mottle and fade away. See
some example images at:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/509687

When I first got a LS-capable optical drive, sure, I started playing
with it and even bought the more expensive LS media. I was disappointed
with the low contrast on the initial print and a buddy of mine showed
what happens if the discs are exposed to light, especially sunlight
(i.e., UV light). Unless you get special printers for optical discs
that use expensive long-term permanent inks, ink printing on the disc
also fades. I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or
laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis
easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent
that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating
on that same side where is the data.

While some users put the LS discs inside a zippered case thinking
they'll be protected from light, I've seen those LS discs get faded
after 1-1/2 years -- and the fading matches the rounded U-shaped slot in
the cover plastic (i.e., where the clear plastic wasn't over the disc is
where the disc is most faded). You also have to be careful what
material is used in whatever storage you use.

http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=97
http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=96

I believe the claim is that fading does not occur for 2 years when the
LS-labelled disc is exposed only to indoor light (which means no full
spectrum lighting). You want to hide these discs from sunlight. Heat
affects fade rate so don't leave the LS discs inside an optical drive
where temperatures are elevated. Apparently even humidity affects fade
rate. Those who are sloppy in handling optical media will find the oil
from their fingerprints also fades the LS image. With all the
precautions needed to preserve an otherwise crappy image, there didn't
seem much point in wasting the time to create LS images, buy the more
pricey discs, and spend the time burning the image onto the LS discs.

All you can do is slow the fading process. It will still fade. LS
doesn't produce permanent labels.


I hadn't thought about them fading, or even noticed it, until I read this
post. I have a boot CD with Acronis True Image 2010 on it, and a newer boot
CD with ATI 2013 (newer hardware doesn't like 2010 much), and I noticed the
3 year old 2010 disc is noticeably lighter than the newer one. They are both
stored in a snap box that lets no light in, slipped into plastic (probably
poly, not PVC) sleeves with "felt" on the data side. The fading appears to
be uniform, but then, the sleeves are full-coverage, not slotted like the
ones in the first article.

The older one hasn't faded too much http://tinypic.com/m/ftoa6d/3, and I'm
not even sure if they were both done on the same writer, but it definitely
is noticeable.

I have a box full of the inkjet labels, but not sure if I still have the
applicator device. I haven't used them in so long, they may be dried out by
now, and won't even stick. I had two or three different styles of labels,
and wasted a lot of ink on creating them, but I'd have to look to see if I
still have any around. Since all of my music gets saved to laptop, PC and
iPod, I can't remember the last time I pulled down my zipper case full of
CDs.
--
SC Tom


  #14  
Old January 21st 13, 03:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Posts: 10,881
Default Lightscribe

"SC Tom" wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
"Paul" wrote:

SC Tom wrote:

"W. eWatson" wrote in message
...
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do
any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For
example, suppose I want to put something like this on it.

April
May
June

May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size?

First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810

Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524

There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can
DL additional templates
http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564

I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font
sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the
templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple
Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software)
http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811

I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high
contrast label.

Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have
a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe
media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label,
was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to
burn the data, that takes the fun out of it.

The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio.
In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label
that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough.

The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such
that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of
concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than
drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to
make them "pretty" :-)

Paul


Lightscribed labels (burned onto the cover side of a LS disc) will fade
over time. They start out somewhat dim, dim over time, and fade into
non-legibility. Some folks will put forth a major effort in designing
graphics for their labels only to have them mottle and fade away. See
some example images at:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/509687

When I first got a LS-capable optical drive, sure, I started playing
with it and even bought the more expensive LS media. I was disappointed
with the low contrast on the initial print and a buddy of mine showed
what happens if the discs are exposed to light, especially sunlight
(i.e., UV light). Unless you get special printers for optical discs
that use expensive long-term permanent inks, ink printing on the disc
also fades. I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or
laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis
easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent
that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating
on that same side where is the data.

While some users put the LS discs inside a zippered case thinking
they'll be protected from light, I've seen those LS discs get faded
after 1-1/2 years -- and the fading matches the rounded U-shaped slot in
the cover plastic (i.e., where the clear plastic wasn't over the disc is
where the disc is most faded). You also have to be careful what
material is used in whatever storage you use.

http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=97
http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=96

I believe the claim is that fading does not occur for 2 years when the
LS-labelled disc is exposed only to indoor light (which means no full
spectrum lighting). You want to hide these discs from sunlight. Heat
affects fade rate so don't leave the LS discs inside an optical drive
where temperatures are elevated. Apparently even humidity affects fade
rate. Those who are sloppy in handling optical media will find the oil
from their fingerprints also fades the LS image. With all the
precautions needed to preserve an otherwise crappy image, there didn't
seem much point in wasting the time to create LS images, buy the more
pricey discs, and spend the time burning the image onto the LS discs.

All you can do is slow the fading process. It will still fade. LS
doesn't produce permanent labels.


I hadn't thought about them fading, or even noticed it, until I read this
post. I have a boot CD with Acronis True Image 2010 on it, and a newer boot
CD with ATI 2013 (newer hardware doesn't like 2010 much), and I noticed the
3 year old 2010 disc is noticeably lighter than the newer one. They are both
stored in a snap box that lets no light in, slipped into plastic (probably
poly, not PVC) sleeves with "felt" on the data side. The fading appears to
be uniform, but then, the sleeves are full-coverage, not slotted like the
ones in the first article.

The older one hasn't faded too much http://tinypic.com/m/ftoa6d/3, and I'm
not even sure if they were both done on the same writer, but it definitely
is noticeable.

I have a box full of the inkjet labels, but not sure if I still have the
applicator device. I haven't used them in so long, they may be dried out by
now, and won't even stick. I had two or three different styles of labels,
and wasted a lot of ink on creating them, but I'd have to look to see if I
still have any around. Since all of my music gets saved to laptop, PC and
iPod, I can't remember the last time I pulled down my zipper case full of
CDs.


If you treat them with super care then the label is supposed to last for
2 years. If you're getting longer than that, consider yourself lucky.
Get max life from a LS label requires some very good protection: no sun,
no broad spectrum indoor light, cool temperature, and keep away from
many chemicals many of which effuse from various plastics.

I don't consider 2, 3, or 5 years to be permanent for a label. I use
CDs and DVDs for downloaded software some versions I still want that are
no longer available as well as commercialware that was downloaded, like
from Digital River, with the order or bill of sale and the product key
needed to use the product. The Sharpie marker labels have lasted better
than the LS labels.

Verbatim says:

Will LightScribe media labels fade or scratch?
LightScribe CD-R and LightScribe DVD labels are inherently durable.
The disc¢s image-ready coating is an integral part of its make-up,
providing long-lasting, scratch resistant labels.

HP says:

Will the LightScribe image fade or darken over time or with exposure
to light?
LightScribe discs are optimized to ensure that the label surface
lasts. Some minor fading may occur over time.

So they skirt the question. They don't say No. They don't say Yes.
They don't say how long is "long-lasting" or how intensive is "minor".
They and other LS disc makers know the technology would not have taken
off if users knew up front that the LS labelling fades and the higher
cost of LS media. The real statistics has been proven by users that
have LS media for over 2 years. Parts of the label are so faded that
they are unintelligible while some areas have just disappeared. The LS
drive and disc makers are still pretending this doesn't happen.
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Old January 21st 13, 07:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 21 Jan 2013, VanguardLH wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I went back
to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or laser. At worst,
the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis easy 'nuff to
stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent that any
attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating on
that same side where is the data.


I do not recommend stick-on labels. I used to use the CD Stomper
system, and almost ever disk I labeled that way has gone bad. I don't
know if the glue attacked the disk, or if it throws it off-balance, or
what, but most of the (audio CD) disks now suffer from "helicopter
noise syndrome" (don't know if there's a technical term for that, but
most people who have burned audio disks know what I mean.) I've been
able to recover some of those by carefully soaking the label off and
cleaning off the glue residue, but many were gone for good.

I never labeled many data disks that way, so I don't know if they
suffered as much. I did read one such disc a week ago and it was OK.

As far as Lightscribe - it takes too long, the result isn't very
attractive, and I figure it puts too much wear and tear on the drive.
It was a novelty at first, but I don't bother with it any more. Not
many new drives seem to have the feature, so I guess it's going the way
of the dodo.
 




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