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I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any
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On 19 Jan 2013, "W. eWatson" wrote in
alt.windows7.general: I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. What do you mean "packages"? As far as I know, there is no Lightscribe capability included with Windows. You will therefore need to contact the company that makes this unspecified "package." |
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"W. eWatson" wrote in message ... I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810 Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524 There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can DL additional templates http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564 I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software) http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811 -- SC Tom |
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SC Tom wrote:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message ... I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810 Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524 There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can DL additional templates http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564 I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software) http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811 I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high contrast label. Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label, was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to burn the data, that takes the fun out of it. The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio. In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough. The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to make them "pretty" :-) Paul |
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W. eWatson wrote:
I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June... The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time. |
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"meagain" wrote in message ... W. eWatson wrote: I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June... The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time. The Template packages will let you write straight lines, but you're restricted to certain sized spaces to write in. The templates are also free. -- SC Tom |
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On 1/19/2013 6:44 PM, meagain wrote:
W. eWatson wrote: I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June... The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time. I have used it primarily to do Linux Live Cds , Knoppix , Mint and a few others Such as Programs which I buy online , Acronis true image, Tax programs, etc. It is still too slow, 20 to 25 minutes and I just don't like the monochrome results, If they where in full color I might be more enthusiastic. Rene |
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On 1/19/2013 11:04 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 1/19/2013 6:44 PM, meagain wrote: W. eWatson wrote: I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? The free 'package' let you write in a circle: April, May, June... The pay 'packages' let you print photo/outline and as much text as you can squeeze in - but it takes a lot of time. I have used it primarily to do Linux Live Cds , Knoppix , Mint and a few others Such as Programs which I buy online , Acronis true image, Tax programs, etc. It is still too slow, 20 to 25 minutes and I just don't like the monochrome results, If they where in full color I might be more enthusiastic. Rene It's still one step above using the marking pen don't you think? If I am backing up an existing DVD I scan the label and scribe it to the copy. Works for me. |
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"Paul" wrote:
SC Tom wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810 Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524 There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can DL additional templates http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564 I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software) http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811 I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high contrast label. Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label, was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to burn the data, that takes the fun out of it. The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio. In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough. The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to make them "pretty" :-) Paul Lightscribed labels (burned onto the cover side of a LS disc) will fade over time. They start out somewhat dim, dim over time, and fade into non-legibility. Some folks will put forth a major effort in designing graphics for their labels only to have them mottle and fade away. See some example images at: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/509687 When I first got a LS-capable optical drive, sure, I started playing with it and even bought the more expensive LS media. I was disappointed with the low contrast on the initial print and a buddy of mine showed what happens if the discs are exposed to light, especially sunlight (i.e., UV light). Unless you get special printers for optical discs that use expensive long-term permanent inks, ink printing on the disc also fades. I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating on that same side where is the data. While some users put the LS discs inside a zippered case thinking they'll be protected from light, I've seen those LS discs get faded after 1-1/2 years -- and the fading matches the rounded U-shaped slot in the cover plastic (i.e., where the clear plastic wasn't over the disc is where the disc is most faded). You also have to be careful what material is used in whatever storage you use. http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=97 http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=96 I believe the claim is that fading does not occur for 2 years when the LS-labelled disc is exposed only to indoor light (which means no full spectrum lighting). You want to hide these discs from sunlight. Heat affects fade rate so don't leave the LS discs inside an optical drive where temperatures are elevated. Apparently even humidity affects fade rate. Those who are sloppy in handling optical media will find the oil from their fingerprints also fades the LS image. With all the precautions needed to preserve an otherwise crappy image, there didn't seem much point in wasting the time to create LS images, buy the more pricey discs, and spend the time burning the image onto the LS discs. All you can do is slow the fading process. It will still fade. LS doesn't produce permanent labels. |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... "Paul" wrote: SC Tom wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810 Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524 There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can DL additional templates http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564 I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software) http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811 I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high contrast label. Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label, was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to burn the data, that takes the fun out of it. The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio. In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough. The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to make them "pretty" :-) Paul Lightscribed labels (burned onto the cover side of a LS disc) will fade over time. They start out somewhat dim, dim over time, and fade into non-legibility. Some folks will put forth a major effort in designing graphics for their labels only to have them mottle and fade away. See some example images at: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/509687 When I first got a LS-capable optical drive, sure, I started playing with it and even bought the more expensive LS media. I was disappointed with the low contrast on the initial print and a buddy of mine showed what happens if the discs are exposed to light, especially sunlight (i.e., UV light). Unless you get special printers for optical discs that use expensive long-term permanent inks, ink printing on the disc also fades. I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating on that same side where is the data. While some users put the LS discs inside a zippered case thinking they'll be protected from light, I've seen those LS discs get faded after 1-1/2 years -- and the fading matches the rounded U-shaped slot in the cover plastic (i.e., where the clear plastic wasn't over the disc is where the disc is most faded). You also have to be careful what material is used in whatever storage you use. http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=97 http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=96 I believe the claim is that fading does not occur for 2 years when the LS-labelled disc is exposed only to indoor light (which means no full spectrum lighting). You want to hide these discs from sunlight. Heat affects fade rate so don't leave the LS discs inside an optical drive where temperatures are elevated. Apparently even humidity affects fade rate. Those who are sloppy in handling optical media will find the oil from their fingerprints also fades the LS image. With all the precautions needed to preserve an otherwise crappy image, there didn't seem much point in wasting the time to create LS images, buy the more pricey discs, and spend the time burning the image onto the LS discs. All you can do is slow the fading process. It will still fade. LS doesn't produce permanent labels. I hadn't thought about them fading, or even noticed it, until I read this post. I have a boot CD with Acronis True Image 2010 on it, and a newer boot CD with ATI 2013 (newer hardware doesn't like 2010 much), and I noticed the 3 year old 2010 disc is noticeably lighter than the newer one. They are both stored in a snap box that lets no light in, slipped into plastic (probably poly, not PVC) sleeves with "felt" on the data side. The fading appears to be uniform, but then, the sleeves are full-coverage, not slotted like the ones in the first article. The older one hasn't faded too much http://tinypic.com/m/ftoa6d/3, and I'm not even sure if they were both done on the same writer, but it definitely is noticeable. I have a box full of the inkjet labels, but not sure if I still have the applicator device. I haven't used them in so long, they may be dried out by now, and won't even stick. I had two or three different styles of labels, and wasted a lot of ink on creating them, but I'd have to look to see if I still have any around. Since all of my music gets saved to laptop, PC and iPod, I can't remember the last time I pulled down my zipper case full of CDs. -- SC Tom |
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"SC Tom" wrote:
"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... "Paul" wrote: SC Tom wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... I just discovered lightscribe. I see there are 3 packages for it. Do any of them allow me to put several lines of type on them? For example, suppose I want to put something like this on it. April May June May want to have 6 or 7 such lines. Can one control the type size? First you need to DL and install the Lightscribe System Software http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/windows/index.aspx?id=810 Then, DL and install the Lightscribe Template Labeler http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=1524 There are a number of templates included with the software, and you can DL additional templates http://www.lightscribe.com/ideas/index.aspx?id=2564 I've used this software, and it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. Font sizes and lines are adjustable to a certain extent on a lot of the templates, or you can create your own labels with the Lightscribe Simple Labeler (which was not quite as simple as the template software) http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/windows/index.aspx?id=811 I await W's feedback, when it takes a long time to get a high contrast label. Maybe it's improved, since the last time I researched it. I have a Lightscribe drive here, but have never had Lightscribe media, as the description of the burn time to do a good label, was too long. If it takes longer to burn the label, than to burn the data, that takes the fun out of it. The burn time can be extended, to enhance the contrast ratio. In the past, people did multi-pass burns, to get a label that stands out well. A single pass might not be enough. The burn time might be reduced, with clever label design such that all the text was concentrated into a smaller set of concentric circles of pixels. That might help. Rather than drawing huge pictures of Sparkle Ponies on the label, to make them "pretty" :-) Paul Lightscribed labels (burned onto the cover side of a LS disc) will fade over time. They start out somewhat dim, dim over time, and fade into non-legibility. Some folks will put forth a major effort in designing graphics for their labels only to have them mottle and fade away. See some example images at: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/509687 When I first got a LS-capable optical drive, sure, I started playing with it and even bought the more expensive LS media. I was disappointed with the low contrast on the initial print and a buddy of mine showed what happens if the discs are exposed to light, especially sunlight (i.e., UV light). Unless you get special printers for optical discs that use expensive long-term permanent inks, ink printing on the disc also fades. I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating on that same side where is the data. While some users put the LS discs inside a zippered case thinking they'll be protected from light, I've seen those LS discs get faded after 1-1/2 years -- and the fading matches the rounded U-shaped slot in the cover plastic (i.e., where the clear plastic wasn't over the disc is where the disc is most faded). You also have to be careful what material is used in whatever storage you use. http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=97 http://www.lightscribe.com/support/k....aspx?faqid=96 I believe the claim is that fading does not occur for 2 years when the LS-labelled disc is exposed only to indoor light (which means no full spectrum lighting). You want to hide these discs from sunlight. Heat affects fade rate so don't leave the LS discs inside an optical drive where temperatures are elevated. Apparently even humidity affects fade rate. Those who are sloppy in handling optical media will find the oil from their fingerprints also fades the LS image. With all the precautions needed to preserve an otherwise crappy image, there didn't seem much point in wasting the time to create LS images, buy the more pricey discs, and spend the time burning the image onto the LS discs. All you can do is slow the fading process. It will still fade. LS doesn't produce permanent labels. I hadn't thought about them fading, or even noticed it, until I read this post. I have a boot CD with Acronis True Image 2010 on it, and a newer boot CD with ATI 2013 (newer hardware doesn't like 2010 much), and I noticed the 3 year old 2010 disc is noticeably lighter than the newer one. They are both stored in a snap box that lets no light in, slipped into plastic (probably poly, not PVC) sleeves with "felt" on the data side. The fading appears to be uniform, but then, the sleeves are full-coverage, not slotted like the ones in the first article. The older one hasn't faded too much http://tinypic.com/m/ftoa6d/3, and I'm not even sure if they were both done on the same writer, but it definitely is noticeable. I have a box full of the inkjet labels, but not sure if I still have the applicator device. I haven't used them in so long, they may be dried out by now, and won't even stick. I had two or three different styles of labels, and wasted a lot of ink on creating them, but I'd have to look to see if I still have any around. Since all of my music gets saved to laptop, PC and iPod, I can't remember the last time I pulled down my zipper case full of CDs. If you treat them with super care then the label is supposed to last for 2 years. If you're getting longer than that, consider yourself lucky. Get max life from a LS label requires some very good protection: no sun, no broad spectrum indoor light, cool temperature, and keep away from many chemicals many of which effuse from various plastics. I don't consider 2, 3, or 5 years to be permanent for a label. I use CDs and DVDs for downloaded software some versions I still want that are no longer available as well as commercialware that was downloaded, like from Digital River, with the order or bill of sale and the product key needed to use the product. The Sharpie marker labels have lasted better than the LS labels. Verbatim says: Will LightScribe media labels fade or scratch? LightScribe CD-R and LightScribe DVD labels are inherently durable. The disc¢s image-ready coating is an integral part of its make-up, providing long-lasting, scratch resistant labels. HP says: Will the LightScribe image fade or darken over time or with exposure to light? LightScribe discs are optimized to ensure that the label surface lasts. Some minor fading may occur over time. So they skirt the question. They don't say No. They don't say Yes. They don't say how long is "long-lasting" or how intensive is "minor". They and other LS disc makers know the technology would not have taken off if users knew up front that the LS labelling fades and the higher cost of LS media. The real statistics has been proven by users that have LS media for over 2 years. Parts of the label are so faded that they are unintelligible while some areas have just disappeared. The LS drive and disc makers are still pretending this doesn't happen. |
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On 21 Jan 2013, VanguardLH wrote in
alt.windows7.general: I went back to my stick-on labels printed on an inkjet or laser. At worst, the glue might fade and the label drop off but tis easy 'nuff to stick it back on. Some stick-on labels are so permanent that any attempt to remove them results in peeling up the shiny coating on that same side where is the data. I do not recommend stick-on labels. I used to use the CD Stomper system, and almost ever disk I labeled that way has gone bad. I don't know if the glue attacked the disk, or if it throws it off-balance, or what, but most of the (audio CD) disks now suffer from "helicopter noise syndrome" (don't know if there's a technical term for that, but most people who have burned audio disks know what I mean.) I've been able to recover some of those by carefully soaking the label off and cleaning off the glue residue, but many were gone for good. I never labeled many data disks that way, so I don't know if they suffered as much. I did read one such disc a week ago and it was OK. As far as Lightscribe - it takes too long, the result isn't very attractive, and I figure it puts too much wear and tear on the drive. It was a novelty at first, but I don't bother with it any more. Not many new drives seem to have the feature, so I guess it's going the way of the dodo. |
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