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Old June 23rd 15, 01:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?
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Old June 23rd 15, 03:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?

I think that your HP drivers are highly unlikely to work unless your 32
bit tablet is running XP. Most drivers are written with specific
parameters for the intended OS, and once you move away from that, all
bets are off. Some manufacturers provide "generic" drivers to the OS
developer, and in those cases, the device may work on a newer OS, though
often with limited functionality.

--
Best regards,

Neil
  #3  
Old June 23rd 15, 03:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?


http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-niash.5.html

The sane-niash implements a SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy) backend that
provides access to NIASH chipset based scanners. This backend will try
to support the following models:

MANUFACTURER: MODEL: USB ID:
--------------- ---------------- ---------
Agfa Snapscan Touch 06BD-0100 (1)(a)
Trust Office Scan 19200 047B-1000 (1)(a)
Hewlett-Packard Scanjet 3300c 03F0-0205 (1)(a)(b)
Hewlett-Packard Scanjet 3400c 03F0-0405 (2)(b)
Hewlett-Packard Scanjet 4300c 03F0-0305 (2)(a)
Silitek ScanJet 4300c 047B-1002 (2)(b)

ASIC: (1) - NIASH00012/00013/00014 / (2) - NIASH00019
ANALOG FRONT-END: (a) - ESIC ES8100QA / (b) - WM8143-12

The 3300c was introduced in the year 2002, and is 13 years old.

*******

For the owner of a Windows 7 table, there is WinXP mode,
available with Windows 7 Pro or higher. You could run
the WinXP driver there.

*******

There is Vuescan

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/supported-scanners.html

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet_3300c.html

See if there is a trial.

I can't find any OS version info.

*******

You could install VirtualBox, install a copy of WinXP,
and use USB passthru. Even without a WinXP license, that
might work for a month without activation. When it asks
for the license key, just click next.

It'll mean reinstalling WinXP once in a while.

This command, run as administrator in the WinXP install,
will rearm activation. But there is some limit to how
many times.

rundll32.exe syssetup,SetupOobeBnk

HTH,
Paul
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Old June 23rd 15, 06:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/23/2015 8:52 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:47:23 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?


Make and model of the tablet?

I have a HP Stream 7 5701 tablet, and find it has all of the
capabilities of my Windows 8.1 laptop.

The table has Intel® Atom™ Z3735G Quad Core 32 bit Processor with 1GB
DDR3L memory. It has 32gb of on board storage. With the bluetooth I
can easily transfer files between in and my laptop. I can also access
my thumbdrives and the land drives through the LAN.

OS is Windows 8.1 current updates.

Yes I know the 3300c scanner is old but it works perfectly, and I
thought that since Windows 8.1 will run legacy systems (ie XP), that the
Generic XP driver would work on the 32 bit processor of the Tablet.


_____________________________________________
It goes a against the grain to toss a perfectly good scanner, that is
equal to or better that the current scanners you buy today. If I can
not find drivers to run on the 32bit tablet, I will maintain the XP
machine just to run the scanner.
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Old June 23rd 15, 08:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/23/2015 2:45 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:33:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:


I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?

Make and model of the tablet?



From what I can determine your scanner is not a network capable device, unlike
your storage devices. As your tablet has a microusb port, you might be able to
hook the scanner up directly to the tablet.

How did you anticipate connecting to the scanner? Did you expect to do it
through the LAN or by using a USB cable?

The HP Steam is a full functioning Windows 8.1 computer. With an
adapter cable it can connect to any USB device through its micro USB port
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Old June 24th 15, 05:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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On 6/23/2015 9:05 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:06:22 -0500, Neil wrote:

Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?

I think that your HP drivers are highly unlikely to work unless your 32
bit tablet is running XP. Most drivers are written with specific
parameters for the intended OS, and once you move away from that, all
bets are off. Some manufacturers provide "generic" drivers to the OS
developer, and in those cases, the device may work on a newer OS, though
often with limited functionality.


Interesting, I thought he was talking about a "drawing tablet", e.g.

https://www.google.com/search?q=draw...1 680&bih=875

OR

http://bit.ly/1LiTKvD

Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once during
"upgrades".

--
Best regards,

Neil
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Old June 24th 15, 09:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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Default 32 bit drivers

On 6/24/2015 12:24 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/23/2015 9:05 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:06:22 -0500, Neil wrote:

Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have an HP Scanjet 3300c. Since HP stopped supporting this scanner a
couple of years after I purchased it, I have been using the generic
scanner driver on my 32 bit XP computer. This driver was found in the
standard list of scanner drives in my OEM XP system.

How I have a 32 bit tablet, and while I have never been able to find a
64 bit driver to use on Windows 8. the though occurred to me if I could
find that 32 bit generic drive, I possibly could use the scanner on my
32 bit Windows 8 table..

If this is would be possible, where can I find that 32 bit generic XP
driver?

I think that your HP drivers are highly unlikely to work unless your 32
bit tablet is running XP. Most drivers are written with specific
parameters for the intended OS, and once you move away from that, all
bets are off. Some manufacturers provide "generic" drivers to the OS
developer, and in those cases, the device may work on a newer OS, though
often with limited functionality.


Interesting, I thought he was talking about a "drawing tablet", e.g.

https://www.google.com/search?q=draw...1 680&bih=875


OR

http://bit.ly/1LiTKvD

Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once during
"upgrades".

It has been a long time since I thought about drawing tablets, but mine
is not a drawing tablet.

It is this
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/tablet...-tablet---5701
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Old June 25th 15, 07:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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On 6/24/2015 4:10 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:24 PM, Neil wrote:
Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once during
"upgrades".

It has been a long time since I thought about drawing tablets, but mine
is not a drawing tablet.

It is this
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/tablet...-tablet---5701

I know. See my reply to you from a couple of days ago, if you haven't as
yet. Related to Stormin' Norman's suggestion, I've used VueScan (Pro
version) for years with a couple of my scanners, and found it to be very
good software that uses its own drivers, so if it supports your scanner
(quite likely that it does) it would be well worth the investment
because it would eliminate the driver issues.

--
Best regards,

Neil
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Old June 25th 15, 09:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/25/2015 2:46 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/24/2015 4:10 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:24 PM, Neil wrote:
Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once during
"upgrades".

It has been a long time since I thought about drawing tablets, but mine
is not a drawing tablet.

It is this
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/tablet...-tablet---5701

I know. See my reply to you from a couple of days ago, if you haven't as
yet. Related to Stormin' Norman's suggestion, I've used VueScan (Pro
version) for years with a couple of my scanners, and found it to be very
good software that uses its own drivers, so if it supports your scanner
(quite likely that it does) it would be well worth the investment
because it would eliminate the driver issues.


If you read the fine print VueScan and others, support the scanner with
their front end. However the HP3300 drivers for VueScan are supplied by
HP. So we are back to my same dilemma.
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Old June 25th 15, 11:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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On 6/25/2015 4:38 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/25/2015 2:46 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/24/2015 4:10 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:24 PM, Neil wrote:
Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet
was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once during
"upgrades".

It has been a long time since I thought about drawing tablets, but mine
is not a drawing tablet.

It is this
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/tablet...-tablet---5701

I know. See my reply to you from a couple of days ago, if you haven't as
yet. Related to Stormin' Norman's suggestion, I've used VueScan (Pro
version) for years with a couple of my scanners, and found it to be very
good software that uses its own drivers, so if it supports your scanner
(quite likely that it does) it would be well worth the investment
because it would eliminate the driver issues.


If you read the fine print VueScan and others, support the scanner with
their front end. However the HP3300 drivers for VueScan are supplied by
HP. So we are back to my same dilemma.

That's HP for you. I bought HP scanners and printers in the early '90s
and discovered their policy of discontinuing drivers and dropping
support for their products long before the hardware was inoperable due
to mechanical or electronic failures. I haven't bought an HP product
since. It wouldn't surprise me if they gave Hamrick legal grief for
developing drivers for earlier scanners, a la:

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet.html


--
Best regards,

Neil
  #11  
Old June 26th 15, 12:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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Default 32 bit drivers

On 6/25/2015 6:49 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/25/2015 4:38 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/25/2015 2:46 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/24/2015 4:10 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:24 PM, Neil wrote:
Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet
was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once during
"upgrades".

It has been a long time since I thought about drawing tablets, but mine
is not a drawing tablet.

It is this
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/tablet...-tablet---5701

I know. See my reply to you from a couple of days ago, if you haven't as
yet. Related to Stormin' Norman's suggestion, I've used VueScan (Pro
version) for years with a couple of my scanners, and found it to be very
good software that uses its own drivers, so if it supports your scanner
(quite likely that it does) it would be well worth the investment
because it would eliminate the driver issues.


If you read the fine print VueScan and others, support the scanner with
their front end. However the HP3300 drivers for VueScan are supplied by
HP. So we are back to my same dilemma.

That's HP for you. I bought HP scanners and printers in the early '90s
and discovered their policy of discontinuing drivers and dropping
support for their products long before the hardware was inoperable due
to mechanical or electronic failures. I haven't bought an HP product
since. It wouldn't surprise me if they gave Hamrick legal grief for
developing drivers for earlier scanners, a la:

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet.html



While many people are taken in by Vuescan the only thing they
universally guarantee is their front end software will work on all
operating system. However Vuescan only supports a limited number of
scanners with their own drivers. In many cases when you read the fine
print on the Vuescan website

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet_3000.html

You will get wording similar to this for the HP Scanjet 3300.

"VueScan works with the HP ScanJet 3000 on Windows and Mac OS X.

You need to install an HP driver to use this scanner on Windows and Mac
OS X.

If there isn't an HP driver at www.hp.com for your operating system,
then unfortunately VueScan won't work with this scanner. VueScan uses a
plugin library that's installed with the HP drivers to talk to this
scanner, and doesn't work with this scanner without this plugin library."
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Old June 26th 15, 01:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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On 6/25/2015 7:30 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/25/2015 6:49 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/25/2015 4:38 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/25/2015 2:46 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/24/2015 4:10 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:24 PM, Neil wrote:
Interesting that you should bring that up. My first drawing tablet
was a
12"x12" Summagraphics that I used with my PC in 1985 or so. The
manufacturer provided all of the necessary I/O code references so
that
users could write their own drivers, which I did more than once
during
"upgrades".

It has been a long time since I thought about drawing tablets, but
mine
is not a drawing tablet.

It is this
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/tablet...-tablet---5701

I know. See my reply to you from a couple of days ago, if you
haven't as
yet. Related to Stormin' Norman's suggestion, I've used VueScan (Pro
version) for years with a couple of my scanners, and found it to be
very
good software that uses its own drivers, so if it supports your scanner
(quite likely that it does) it would be well worth the investment
because it would eliminate the driver issues.


If you read the fine print VueScan and others, support the scanner with
their front end. However the HP3300 drivers for VueScan are supplied by
HP. So we are back to my same dilemma.

That's HP for you. I bought HP scanners and printers in the early '90s
and discovered their policy of discontinuing drivers and dropping
support for their products long before the hardware was inoperable due
to mechanical or electronic failures. I haven't bought an HP product
since. It wouldn't surprise me if they gave Hamrick legal grief for
developing drivers for earlier scanners, a la:

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet.html



While many people are taken in by Vuescan the only thing they
universally guarantee is their front end software will work on all
operating system. However Vuescan only supports a limited number of
scanners with their own drivers. In many cases when you read the fine
print on the Vuescan website

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet_3000.html

You will get wording similar to this for the HP Scanjet 3300.

"VueScan works with the HP ScanJet 3000 on Windows and Mac OS X.

You need to install an HP driver to use this scanner on Windows and Mac
OS X.

If there isn't an HP driver at www.hp.com for your operating system,
then unfortunately VueScan won't work with this scanner. VueScan uses a
plugin library that's installed with the HP drivers to talk to this
scanner, and doesn't work with this scanner without this plugin library."

I did read that for some of their scanner support, which is why I added
the link to an older HP scanner that uses drivers developed by Hamrick
and doesn't need the HP drivers to work.

Considering the number of scanners in existence today, it is probably
expedient to use the manufacturers' drivers, but that would just be one
less reason to use VueScan.

--
Best regards,

Neil
 




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