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New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit
I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable in todays OS's. As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a driver!!! Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that appears to work properly. Is this a common occurence? |
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pjp wrote:
I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable in todays OS's. As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a driver!!! Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that appears to work properly. Is this a common occurence? Probably because the last driver provided by Creative (Microsoft doesn't write the drivers, they just included them in later versions of Windows) was a 32-bit driver. Unless Creative created a 64-bit driver, there isn't one for Microsoft to bundle with a later version of Windows. |
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pjp wrote:
I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable in todays OS's. As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a driver!!! Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that appears to work properly. Is this a common occurence? Are these on the catalog server ? https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx Paul |
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pjp wrote:
In article , lid says... pjp wrote: I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable in todays OS's. As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a driver!!! Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that appears to work properly. Is this a common occurence? Are these on the catalog server ? https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx Paul Appear to be, least Broadcom Bluetooth shows up as both 32 % 64 bit versions. I'll try again as perhaps it was simply a network connection issue. I have the driver to install 64 bit but hopefully it's not needed. Biggest issue is I have no bluetooth device to check it works, dongle kinda just fell into lap so to speak. With two dongles, in theory you can do a piconet (Internet Connection Sharing). When I did an experiment here, I think I managed to get one or two ping packets through two dongles, before the connection died. Windows 10 didn't seem to be prepared in any way, for a user to want a Bluetooth piconet. The datarate would be about as fast as one of the old dialup modems. Not exactly screaming fast. Finding a Bluetooth peripheral, if you're not a Bluetooth person, might well be more difficult. I couldn't find anything here to buy, that didn't look like pure rubbish. So like you, I can't test the "high runner case" (A2DP). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tooth_profiles One of the problems I have with the stores here now, is there's nothing in stock for an "impulse buy". It looks like the stores, when they want to go bankrupt, will have a "very small clearance sale". Even a year ago, things looked a little bit better. Now all the stores just want to run mail order outfits. Where is the service differentiation ? If they want my business, how will they demonstrate superior attributes to customers ? Paul |
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In message , pjp
writes: [] Biggest issue is I have no bluetooth device to check it works, dongle kinda just fell into lap so to speak. Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I think, so might be usable to test your adapter. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make! |
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pjp wrote:
In article , says... In message , pjp writes: [] Biggest issue is I have no bluetooth device to check it works, dongle kinda just fell into lap so to speak. Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I think, so might be usable to test your adapter. Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"? The juxtaposition of phonemes ? mobile phone mobile fone fobile moan luaP |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 02:00:12 -0300, pjp wrote:
In article , says... [...] Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I think, so might be usable to test your adapter. Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"? spoonerism (plural spoonerisms) A play on words on a phrase in which the initial (usually consonantal) sounds of two or more of the main words are transposed. REF: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spoonerism -- Kind regards Ralph |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 01:11:14 -0400, Paul wrote:
pjp wrote: [quoted text muted] Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I think, so might be usable to test your adapter. Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"? The juxtaposition of phonemes ? mobile phone mobile fone fobile moan luaP I was about to disagree with your "phonemes" comment, but realized I had misread "fobile" a "foible". I very nearly made myself out to be a mucking foron. This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism. https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 06:43:42 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:
This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism. https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism Although "fobile moan" and "mucking foron" might not qualify, come to think of it. think the rule is that the new "words" formed must be actual words. "Our queer old dean" is a common example, and the above link gives "/Let me sew you to your sheet/ for /Let me show you to your seat./" -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Stan Brown wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 01:11:14 -0400, Paul wrote: pjp wrote: [quoted text muted] Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I think, so might be usable to test your adapter. Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"? The juxtaposition of phonemes ? mobile phone mobile fone fobile moan luaP I was about to disagree with your "phonemes" comment, but realized I had misread "fobile" a "foible". I very nearly made myself out to be a mucking foron. This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism. https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism I also picked "phonemes" because the joke involved a "phone". The "spoonerism" bit, completely slipped my faulty memory. I've heard of the term before, but it didn't bubble forth from the dim recesses when needed. Paul Paul |
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In message , Stan Brown
writes: On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 06:43:42 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism. https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism Although "fobile moan" and "mucking foron" might not qualify, come to It's probably less common in the US, where I understand the common term is cellophane, or cell for short; in the UK, it's mobile 'phone, or mobile for short. The term "foible" on its own (or, though even less so, "moan") also has _some_ currency. [Incidentally, on a similar note: the navigational aid that uses satellites, UK generally calls a "SatNav", whereas I gather the US calls it a "GPS". Neither, strictly, being technologically correct on their own but that's how the language evolves. Like "microwave".] think of it. think the rule is that the new "words" formed must be actual words. "Our queer old dean" is a common example, and the above link gives "/Let me sew you to your sheet/ for /Let me show you to your seat./" Though "I get my wicking MusD fuddled" has a definite appeal (-:. And the full form of your "dean" one _does_ obey the rule - it's the loyal toast: "Let's glaze Ruhr arses to the queer old dean". Apparently, the reverend Sponger after whom they're named didn't actually do the transpositions quite so rigorously as has become the definition, perhaps announcing the hymn "Greenland's icy mountains" as "Iceland's greasy mountains". But the name has stuck, and their use, deliberate or (often better) accidental, will continue to provide much amusement, I hope. Now, for those with their head in their hands over this thread drift: I hope, if the original poster is still with us, that s/he was able to use a mobile/cell 'phone to test whether their Bluetooth adapter (or its driver) was working. Though since it probably involves arcane settings on the 'phone, borrowing a bomb from a nearby teenager - or an earpiece (or possibly car!) from a nearby businessman - might be easier. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Grammar is there to help, not hinder." -- Mark Wallace, APIHNA, 2nd December 2000 (quoted by John Flynn 2000-12-6) |
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My spellchecker seems to have gone berserk on this one, sorry!
In message , "J. P. Gilliver (John)" writes: In message , Stan Brown writes: On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 06:43:42 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism. https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism Although "fobile moan" and "mucking foron" might not qualify, come to It's probably less common in the US, where I understand the common term is cellophane, or cell for short; in the UK, it's mobile 'phone, or cellphone! mobile for short. The term "foible" on its own (or, though even less so, "moan") also has _some_ currency. [Incidentally, on a similar note: the navigational aid that uses satellites, UK generally calls a "SatNav", whereas I gather the US calls it a "GPS". Neither, strictly, being technologically correct on their own but that's how the language evolves. Like "microwave".] think of it. think the rule is that the new "words" formed must be actual words. "Our queer old dean" is a common example, and the above link gives "/Let me sew you to your sheet/ for /Let me show you to your seat./" Though "I get my wicking MusD fuddled" has a definite appeal (-:. And wucking murds the full form of your "dean" one _does_ obey the rule - it's the loyal toast: "Let's glaze Ruhr arses to the queer old dean". our-r! Apparently, the reverend Sponger after whom they're named didn't Spooner! actually do the transpositions quite so rigorously as has become the definition, perhaps announcing the hymn "Greenland's icy mountains" as "Iceland's greasy mountains". But the name has stuck, and their use, deliberate or (often better) accidental, will continue to provide much amusement, I hope. Now, for those with their head in their hands over this thread drift: I hope, if the original poster is still with us, that s/he was able to use a mobile/cell 'phone to test whether their Bluetooth adapter (or its driver) was working. Though since it probably involves arcane settings on the 'phone, borrowing a bomb from a nearby teenager - or an boombox! earpiece (or possibly car!) from a nearby businessman - might be easier. I've no idea why my spellchecker - if indeed it was that! - was so imaginative on this post! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Grief generates a huge energy in you and it's better for everybody if you harness it to do something. - Judi Dench, RT 2015/2/28-3/6 |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 17:19:37 +1200, Ralph Fox
wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 02:00:12 -0300, pjp wrote: In article , says... [...] Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I think, so might be usable to test your adapter. Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"? spoonerism (plural spoonerisms) A play on words on a phrase in which the initial (usually consonantal) sounds of two or more of the main words are transposed. REF: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spoonerism Yes, but in good spoonerisms, the result of the transposition is two actual words, preferably with a humorous result. A Sale of Two Titties. May I Sew You to your Sheet? etc. |
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