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Windows 8 upgrade
For the umpteenth upgrade to Windows 8, when an upgrade is available but
not installed, one of the system comes to a screeching halt. In the past it has been Firefox, Thunderbird, or some other program. Tonight the LAN and the mouse slowed to the point they were nearly not functioning. I tried a different mouse and no change. I checked the Updates, and sure enough there were 18 to be installed. I installed them and now everything is back to normal the mouse is working, the LAN is working, Everything is working normally. MS has taken one heck of a way to alert you of updates. |
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:06:46 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: For the umpteenth upgrade to Windows 8, when an upgrade is available but not installed, one of the system comes to a screeching halt. In the past it has been Firefox, Thunderbird, or some other program. Tonight the LAN and the mouse slowed to the point they were nearly not functioning. I tried a different mouse and no change. I checked the Updates, and sure enough there were 18 to be installed. I installed them and now everything is back to normal the mouse is working, the LAN is working, Everything is working normally. MS has taken one heck of a way to alert you of updates. My assumption is that the behavior you're experiencing is unique to your system, somehow. |
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On 6/19/2015 11:22 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:06:46 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: For the umpteenth upgrade to Windows 8, when an upgrade is available but not installed, one of the system comes to a screeching halt. In the past it has been Firefox, Thunderbird, or some other program. Tonight the LAN and the mouse slowed to the point they were nearly not functioning. I tried a different mouse and no change. I checked the Updates, and sure enough there were 18 to be installed. I installed them and now everything is back to normal the mouse is working, the LAN is working, Everything is working normally. MS has taken one heck of a way to alert you of updates. My assumption is that the behavior you're experiencing is unique to your system, somehow. The system is a Toshiba Satellite C55-A5204 i3-3120M 4GB memory. The OEM computer came with Windows 8. It was upgraded to 8.1 as soon as released, and has current updates. I find it hard to believe that it is only my computer, with no hacks to the OS. |
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Windows 8 upgrade
Keith Nuttle wrote:
For the umpteenth upgrade to Windows 8, when an upgrade is available but not installed, one of the system comes to a screeching halt. In the past it has been Firefox, Thunderbird, or some other program. Tonight the LAN and the mouse slowed to the point they were nearly not functioning. I tried a different mouse and no change. I checked the Updates, and sure enough there were 18 to be installed. I installed them and now everything is back to normal the mouse is working, the LAN is working, Everything is working normally. MS has taken one heck of a way to alert you of updates. The updates should have set a Restore Point. You could roll them back, and try it again. And watch Task Manager or Resource Monitor, for more hints as to what is using CPU. You have enough of a CPU, it shouldn't get bogged by Windows Update. To do the damage you describe, would require finding a way to overwhelm the kernel. Extreme memory pressure might do it. Lots of hard faults (memory pressure causes swapping to the pagefile). I don't know what else could do it, as the OS has some defense with interrupt mitigation, if some hardware goes nuts. The majority of kernel calls should be non-blocking, and it should be relatively hard to break the thing. If you needed other hints, you could run Process Monitor from Sysinternals.com, and see if there is an "excessive percentage" of some operation in the trace. I generally don't set a filter condition on the first run, so I won't miss any possibility. If I see something that needs investigation, I can then set a filter which is more selective. The addition of a filter driver to your mouse (a HID device), might cause it to appear to malfunction, but since you have both mouse and LAN trouble at the same time, I need a more basic theory to cover both. And they aren't "near one another" in terms of system busses. Your specific hardware design, could have the NIC interrupt on the same INTA# as the USB. But that's an old concept left in the dust, as modern PCI Express hardware uses inband interrupts, and they're non-interfering. The days of some PCI INTA# shenanigans might happen on older equipment (in which case, you'd move the hardware off a particular USB connector and try another connector). On older chipsets, the USB blocks are assigned to different hardware interrupt signals, so you could attempt to separate busy hardware, by moving the USB peripheral to another port connector. Paul |
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On 6/19/2015 6:06 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
For the umpteenth upgrade to Windows 8, when an upgrade is available but not installed, one of the system comes to a screeching halt. In the past it has been Firefox, Thunderbird, or some other program. Tonight the LAN and the mouse slowed to the point they were nearly not functioning. I tried a different mouse and no change. I checked the Updates, and sure enough there were 18 to be installed. I installed them and now everything is back to normal the mouse is working, the LAN is working, Everything is working normally. MS has taken one heck of a way to alert you of updates. Maybe the update options are somehow set to download the updates without asking? |
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