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Old June 26th 20, 01:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Slootweg
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Default Backing up multple generations

Chris wrote:
On 2020-06-25 17:18:29 +0000, Frank Slootweg said:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-06-25 11:27 a.m., knuttle wrote:
On 6/25/2020 11:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]
I was going to mention File History, but it doesn't keep "Today's
backup, yesterday's, the day before's." as micky mentioned, but just
multiple versions of your files, so you cannot - or at least not easily
- restore 'yesterday's' backup.

Also, File History only backs up the 'Libraries' (i.e. Documents,
Music, Pictures and Videos) on your system, not the rest. So if you put
stuff in 'non-standard' places, File History won't back them up.

The software I use - Cobian Backup - can do daily backups, but it is
not for the faint of heart, so I don't think micky will be helped by it.
(FWIW, I *also* use File History.)

I have the files I want backed up and they are not just the ones that
that MS thinks is needed.* I do not use and do not back up the MS files
Music, Video, etc. In some folders I only back up some of the sub folders.

Also when you need to restore a file, each copy of the file has its
original name plus the date that it was backed up.* So if you sort the
Name column all of your backups will be grouped together so you can look
at the date part of he backup file name and select the backup you want.
You do not need to restore the file in the traditional sense, but can
copy the backup file backup to the original directory.

Macrium Reflect will let you keep up to a maximum of 999 full ,
differential or incremental backups. (not that you would), you would
need many huge HDs for that/


Image backup - i.e. Macrium Reflect - will use much more storage than
file-level backup, because it doesn't only backup the changed files, but
also the rest of the sectors around those files and - if the disk has
been defragmented - will backup moved sectors, even if the files in them
haven't changed.


Macrium is much more than a full image backup tool. It does partial,
incremental and full grandfathering of backups.


Yes, I know, I use the Free version (which has differential (image)
backups, but no incrementals).

It also does file/folder level backups.


Yes, in the paid version.

It's probably the ideal tool for the OP.


Yes, it probably is. I didn't think of the combination (image/
file-level) in one and the same tool. Being commercial instead of (your
run-of-the-mill) 'free' software is a big plus, at a cost of course.
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Old June 26th 20, 04:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Backing up multple generations

On 6/25/2020 9:11 AM, micky wrote:
Most backup software keeps only one generation of backup. But for
reasons explained ealier, for some folders, I'd like to keep more than
one generat4ion. Today's backup, yesterday's, the day before's. Any
recommendations?

write a batch to run automatically by task scheduler

1. use ForFiles to limit number of copies kept in destination by setting
date or number of days before to limit to

2. have it run RoboCopy (can do complete Folders or individual files)
and set destination to include date and/or time in name of Folder or file.


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Old June 26th 20, 11:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-06-25, micky wrote:
Most backup software keeps only one generation of backup. But for
reasons explained ealier, for some folders, I'd like to keep more than
one generat4ion. Today's backup, yesterday's, the day before's. Any
recommendations?


For Windows systems I usually write a batch file that backs up using
robocopy and rotates multiple backups, using an external or removal
disk as the media. (This presupposes that all files to be backed up
are closed since robocopy is not vss-aware.)

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Old June 28th 20, 07:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Backing up multple generations

micky wrote:

Most backup software keeps only one generation of backup. But for
reasons explained ealier, for some folders, I'd like to keep more than
one generat4ion. Today's backup, yesterday's, the day before's. Any
recommendations?


The Microsoft games on Windows 10 have always been adware. They ads
don't show up for awhile, but they do show up.

It would be difficult other than authors with deep pockets to provide
apps for Windows 10 or for Android that are not only free to use but
also ad-free. It costs money to put an app in their Stores.

Google Play Sto $25 per year
Microsoft Sto $49 to $99 per year

The development tools are free, but authors need to compensate for their
costs to publish their apps at these app stores. Plus both Microsoft
and Google get a bite of the action: developers only get 70% of a
transaction (Microsoft ups that to 80% after $25K in sales). They
aren't your parents that subsidize all your wants. Why should they be
penalized for their effort, but not you? They're hoping for volume
sales, by getting you to suffer a nip in a small price but nipping lots
of buyers.

The Stores are not download sites where authors can host their wares for
free. Those Stores cost money to publish any apps over there. However,
I have seen some sudoku apps at the Google Play store claim they are
free AND ad-free. They're ad-sponsored over at the Microsoft store,
probably because the cost to the author to publish is far more expensive
at the Microsoft Store. They probably hope you will will upgrade from
their crippled lureware to their full-featured payware version.

Stop looking for sudoku apps at the Microsoft or Google stores. Authors
have to pay up-front costs there to publish there, and it's not their
responsibility to cater to freeloaders and act 100% altruistically to
eliminate you paying for their effort and compensate for their costs.
Are YOU going to provide an app store where you pay all the hosting
costs, bandwidth, and manpower to curate the content, so all visitors to
your site can get free and ad-free software? How deep are your pockets?

Don't look to the Microsoft or Google stores to find ad-free freeware.
Instead of looking for UWP (Universal Windows Platform) WinRT apps to
use under Windows 10, hunt the download sites for Win32 API freeware
that is also ad-free. Even then, there aren't that many freewares that
are completely ad-free. In a search, one I found is:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/winsudoku/

However, I've not played it to know that it is both free and ad-free.
As I recall, and in contrast to the GitHub repository, any software on
Sourceforge is supposed to be free and ad-free (and open source). While
their site has banner ads, I thought any projects hosted there had to be
ad-free. As a consequence, many projects come and go or get abandoned
because the author loses interest, dies, gets busy with life or other
projects, or otherwise decides not to continue developing or supporting
their Sourceforge project. Alas, Sourceforge doesn't seem to require an
author "touch" their project to keep it updated every few months to
ensure the author is still there and monitoring their project, so there
are plenty of dead projects at Sourceforge. Case in point: the above
sudoku game project has not been updated since 2014, a good indication
the project got abandoned. However, old doesn't mean unusable, so it
might still run as a Win32 program today. The authors have no financial
incentive to continue the project, because it's hosted for free so the
authors have no motivation to keep alive a project.
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Old June 28th 20, 08:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Backing up multple generations

In article , VanguardLH
wrote:


The Stores are not download sites where authors can host their wares for
free.


they can be if the developers choose to create a free app and publish
it.
 




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