The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

o The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is now out
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-10-may-2020-update-now-available/
o The most significant update comes to File Explorer
o There is also a new Cortana experience
o and the ability to rename virtual desktops
o Other improvements include an enhanced Windows search function

To download the May 2020 Update today...
o Open Windows Settings, clicking Update & Security, Windows Update
followed by Check for Updates.

o If it is ready for your PC, you will see a message appear under
Optional Updates available in Windows Update, of
'Feature update to Windows 10, version 2004'
o You can then trigger a download of it by clicking
Download and install now

To force an update if you do not see that message...
o Go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
o Download the Media Creation Tool "MediaCreationTool2004.exe"
https://software-download.microsoft.com/download/pr/MediaCreationTool2004.exe
o You can then use that tool to download a bootable ISO file.

It's always a ton of bull**** in the reviews, but let's see what they say.
o What's new in the Windows 10 May 2020 Update
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/05/27/whats-new-in-the-windows-10-may-2020-update/
o Bluetooth pairing is fewer steps
o you can sign in with your face, fingerprint, or PIN?
o kaomoji available directly in the Windows emoji keyboard
o Name your desktops instead of Desktop 1 or Desktop 2
o DirectX 12 Ultimate
o Xbox Game Bar now supports third-party widgets
o memory usage reduction of up to 27% when browsing with Microsoft Edge
o now you can choose to keep the Calculator app on top of everything
o NotePad.exe wrap around find/replace, quick text zooming
o NotePad.exe asterisk in the title bar indicates unsaved changes
o place, receive, or text reply to phone calls directly on your PC
o Cortana chat-based user interface
o Narrator sounds have been revamped
o Windows Magnifier will keep the text cursor in the center of the screen
etc.

The phone sync appears to require a separate app:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sync-across-your-devices?activetab=pivot_1%253aprimaryr2
"Users must link their phone to their Windows PC in PC settings. Users
will receive an app from Microsoft which they must download to their phone
and follow the set-up prompts, including being signed into [the] same
Microsoft Account across mobile apps and Windows 10 PC."

Apparently they're billing WSL2 as part of this update
o Even though you can get it separately, as we covered he
o Tutorial for setting up Ubuntu as a Windows Subsystem for Linux WSL in Windows 10
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/rOT8xBWo9dk/pK8Z8ahDAgAJ

This is where they link the WSL2 with this new update:
o Windows 10 May 2020 Update now available with built-in Linux kernel and Cortana updates
https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/27/21271655/microsoft-windows-10-may-2020-update-download-available
"Microsoft¢s next major Windows 10 update includes WSL 2"

"The biggest change to the May 2020 Update is that it includes the
Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 (WSL 2), with a custom-built Linux kernel."

"WSL 2 won't include Linux GUI application support or GPU hardware
acceleration just yet, as Microsoft is promising both of these features for
future Windows updates."
o Microsoft is bringing Linux GUI apps to Windows 10
https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/19/21263377/microsoft-windows-10-linux-gui-apps-gpu-acceleration-wsl-features

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Arlen Holder wrote:
o The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is now out
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-10-may-2020-update-now-available/

It's an Upgrade, because the release number of the OS
changes, as do the release number stamps on the majority
of OS files.

18363.999

release-number . patch-number

-- Upgrade -- -- Update --

The incoming one, also counts as the "Major" upgrade for 2020.

The one later in the year, if any, is a "tick box upgrade", where
in many cases, the release numbers are mixed. In your
existing OS, you can see a mixture of 18362 (Major) and 18363 (Minor).

Cortana has been relegated to a janitorial room in
the basement of the Microsoft building. Your job is to
find where they've hidden Cortana, as an Easter Egg.

Paul

It's an Upgrade, because the release number of the OS
changes, as do the release number stamps on the majority
of OS files.

I just tried to upgrade my 1909 by Windows10Upgrade9252.exe, after few
seconds it says "System is updated" but when I try winver command it
shows 1909.

Now I'm trying the MediaCreationTool2004.exe to make a usb key and I
found in this tool "update this machine" option, maybe I should try to
use it...

** Paul

^Bart

On Wed, 27 May 2020 15:38:14 -0400, Paul wrote:

It's an Upgrade...

Hi Paul,

Thanks for that well-meant correction, where, in my defense, I'll only
state I was parroting the title of the first article referenced.

Moving forward, I'll try to use "upgrade" for the Win10 2004 rollout!
o I actually appreciate the admonishment - as we should use proper terms.

The one later in the year, if any, is a "tick box upgrade", where
in many cases, the release numbers are mixed. In your
existing OS, you can see a mixture of 18362 (Major) and 18363 (Minor).

Currently, on this desktop, I'm at:
Win+R winver
18363.836

Accordingly, I've obtained the requisite tool & ISO which awaits install:
Name: MediaCreationTool2004.exe
Size: 19468312 bytes (18 MiB)
SHA256: E230E99A0836C468F8CA98FBE0CEDB7B73CE88229409035D1E 5353B88397A781

Name: Windows.iso
Size: 4144168960 bytes (3952 MiB)
SHA256: 35C8CA4D9943BC614BD2ECFE569E459BE5873B2B02FF3E5ABE EB6EAF6CB23A5B

Cortana has been relegated to a janitorial room in
the basement of the Microsoft building. Your job is to
find where they've hidden Cortana, as an Easter Egg.

For whatever reason, they seem to be making a big deal about Cortana...
o Microsoft continues its productivity-aide push with the new Cortana app for Windows 10 2004
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-continues-its-productivity-aide-push-with-the-new-cortana-app-for-windows-10-2004/
"Microsoft is rolling out its new standalone Cortana productivity-aide
app and updating its Cortana app with new features on iOS,
simultaneous with the Windows 10 2004 rollout."

"This new, separate Cortana app, available for Windows 10 starting with
this feature update, is all about using natural language
(voice or typing activated) to handle more productivity tasks."

I turned off Cortana so long ago that I don't even know what it is anymore.
o Same thing with those binary tiled menus & even the alphabetical menu.

I didn't see much by way of useful stuff in those Windows Upgrade reviews.
o Did you?

Remember long ago when I authored this question about Windows?
o What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ

Something like 40 people in something like 400 posts could barely find a
dozen useful things you couldn't do way back in the older releases, that
were claimed to be inside the newest release (at that time).

What's changed since then?
o I think almost all mature software follows a similar functionality curve.

In general, most "reviews" are simply "shills" provided by MARKETING to the
various organizations to hand them ready-made "news" about the product,
IMHO.

Having read the posted reviews, I didn't find much by way of usefulness.
o Did you?
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I turned off Cortana so long ago that I don't even know what it is anymore.

Thank you!

Now downloading the ISO from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:27 -0700, T wrote:

Thank you!

Now downloading the ISO from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Like others, I tried to find the Windows Update/Upgrade button but I
couldn't find it, so I too downloaded the ISO although I used the MCT to do
it.

Name: MediaCreationTool2004.exe
Size: 19468312 bytes (18 MiB)
SHA256: E230E99A0836C468F8CA98FBE0CEDB7B73CE88229409035D1E 5353B88397A781

Name: Windows.iso
Size: 4144168960 bytes (3952 MiB)
SHA256: 35C8CA4D9943BC614BD2ECFE569E459BE5873B2B02FF3E5ABE EB6EAF6CB23A5B
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On 2020-05-27 18:34, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:27 -0700, T wrote:

Thank you!

Now downloading the ISO from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Like others, I tried to find the Windows Update/Upgrade button but I
couldn't find it, so I too downloaded the ISO although I used the MCT to do
it.

Name: MediaCreationTool2004.exe
Size: 19468312 bytes (18 MiB)
SHA256: E230E99A0836C468F8CA98FBE0CEDB7B73CE88229409035D1E 5353B88397A781

Name: Windows.iso
Size: 4144168960 bytes (3952 MiB)
SHA256: 35C8CA4D9943BC614BD2ECFE569E459BE5873B2B02FF3E5ABE EB6EAF6CB23A5B


I downloaded it with Linux, so it only offers me the ISO.
(I like it that way.) I burn my flash drive with WoeUSB.

https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB

T wrote:
On 2020-05-27 18:34, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:27 -0700, T wrote:

Thank you!

Now downloading the ISO from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Like others, I tried to find the Windows Update/Upgrade button but I
couldn't find it, so I too downloaded the ISO although I used the MCT
to do
it.

Name: MediaCreationTool2004.exe
Size: 19468312 bytes (18 MiB)
SHA256:
E230E99A0836C468F8CA98FBE0CEDB7B73CE88229409035D1E 5353B88397A781

Name: Windows.iso
Size: 4144168960 bytes (3952 MiB)
SHA256:
35C8CA4D9943BC614BD2ECFE569E459BE5873B2B02FF3E5ABE EB6EAF6CB23A5B


I downloaded it with Linux, so it only offers me the ISO.
(I like it that way.) I burn my flash drive with WoeUSB.

https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB


Now, compare the size of your ISO to his.

Yours should be bigger, as typically the Linux-downloaded-one
has 11 OS versions, and the MediaCreationTool one has 7 OS versions.

Quite why they do this, I don't understand the motivation. It
means a Linux user would need dual layer DVD9 media to hold
that ISO. Whereas the one Arlen got, should fit on single
layer media.

It's also possible to remaster the ISO and remove the
versions you don't want (for either of the 7-OS or
11-OS versions).

Paul

On 2020-05-27 20:14, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
On 2020-05-27 18:34, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:27 -0700, T wrote:

Thank you!

Now downloading the ISO from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Like others, I tried to find the Windows Update/Upgrade button but I
couldn't find it, so I too downloaded the ISO although I used the MCT
to do
it.

Â* Name: MediaCreationTool2004.exe
Â* Size: 19468312 bytes (18 MiB)
Â* SHA256:
E230E99A0836C468F8CA98FBE0CEDB7B73CE88229409035D1E 5353B88397A781

Â* Name: Windows.iso
Â* Size: 4144168960 bytes (3952 MiB)
Â* SHA256:
35C8CA4D9943BC614BD2ECFE569E459BE5873B2B02FF3E5ABE EB6EAF6CB23A5B


I downloaded it with Linux, so it only offers me the ISO.
(I like it that way.)Â* I burn my flash drive with WoeUSB.

https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB


Now, compare the size of your ISO to his.

Yours should be bigger, as typically the Linux-downloaded-one
has 11 OS versions, and the MediaCreationTool one has 7 OS versions.

Quite why they do this, I don't understand the motivation. It
means a Linux user would need dual layer DVD9 media to hold
that ISO. Whereas the one Arlen got, should fit on single
layer media.

It's also possible to remaster the ISO and remove the
versions you don't want (for either of the 7-OS or
11-OS versions).

Â*Â* Paul

They always seem to work ..

ls -al Win10_2004_English_x64.iso
-rw-r--r--. 1 todd users 5268953088 May 27 19:31 Win10_2004_English_x64

I want all the versions as I use these to do installs
and upgrades. And the stick is 8 GB, so I don't care
about teh wasted 3 GB

On 2020-05-27 20:18, T wrote:
On 2020-05-27 20:14, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
On 2020-05-27 18:34, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:27 -0700, T wrote:

Thank you!

Now downloading the ISO from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

Like others, I tried to find the Windows Update/Upgrade button but I
couldn't find it, so I too downloaded the ISO although I used the
MCT to do
it.

Â* Name: MediaCreationTool2004.exe
Â* Size: 19468312 bytes (18 MiB)
Â* SHA256:
E230E99A0836C468F8CA98FBE0CEDB7B73CE88229409035D1E 5353B88397A781

Â* Name: Windows.iso
Â* Size: 4144168960 bytes (3952 MiB)
Â* SHA256:
35C8CA4D9943BC614BD2ECFE569E459BE5873B2B02FF3E5ABE EB6EAF6CB23A5B


I downloaded it with Linux, so it only offers me the ISO.
(I like it that way.)Â* I burn my flash drive with WoeUSB.

https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB


Now, compare the size of your ISO to his.

Yours should be bigger, as typically the Linux-downloaded-one
has 11 OS versions, and the MediaCreationTool one has 7 OS versions.

Quite why they do this, I don't understand the motivation. It
means a Linux user would need dual layer DVD9 media to hold
that ISO. Whereas the one Arlen got, should fit on single
layer media.

It's also possible to remaster the ISO and remove the
versions you don't want (for either of the 7-OS or
11-OS versions).

Â*Â*Â* Paul

They always seem to work ..

ls -al Win10_2004_English_x64.iso
-rw-r--r--. 1 todd users 5268953088 May 27 19:31 Win10_2004_English_x64

I want all the versions as I use these to do installs
and upgrades.Â* And the stick is 8 GB, so I don't care
about teh wasted 3 GB




I am now officially on Windows Nein (w10) build 2004
(that aught to **** of the M$ fanbois).

I mounted the iso and installed from there. Everything
was pretty uneventful.

Have not used it for anything yet.

On Thu, 28 May 2020 09:54:04 -0700, T wrote:

I am now officially on Windows Nein (w10) build 2004
(that aught to **** of the M$ fanbois).

I mounted the iso and installed from there. Everything
was pretty uneventful.

Have not used it for anything yet.

You beat me!

I had opted for the ISO to DVD which I tried burning (twice) using ImgBurn
freeware, and it failed, both times. Dunno why.

I'll see if I can catch up to you!

On Wed, 27 May 2020 21:46:57 +0200, ^Bart wrote:

I just tried to upgrade my 1909 by Windows10Upgrade9252.exe, after few
seconds it says "System is updated" but when I try winver command it
shows 1909.

Now I'm trying the MediaCreationTool2004.exe to make a usb key and I
found in this tool "update this machine" option, maybe I should try to
use it...

Did it work yet for you, Begin Bart?

I'm still trying to get a DVD burned, where I have a dead desktop just
waiting to get a new HDD and this 2004 Windows 10 edition...

Looking for "what" is in the edition, there 'ain't much I fear...

For example...
o Windows 10 May 2020 update brings WSL 2, revamped Cortana assistant,
and Your Phone calls to ARM devices
https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-windows-10-may-2020-update-wsl-2-revamped-cortana-assistant-your-phone-calls-arm-devices/

"The latest version of Windows 10, is now receiving the May 2020
stable update, which brings several key features such as...
(1) Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) 2
(2) a revamped Cortana experience,
(3) Your Phone feature for Windows on ARM,
(4) and more" [see below for the andmore stuff]

"As part of this update, WSL 2 is also now updateable through
Windows Update, so users no longer need to rely on the command line
only to update the kernel."

"Microsoft did announce GPU acceleration and Linux GUI app support for
WSL 2, at Microsoft Build 2020. But, these features are not yet
available even for Windows Insiders"

"Another highlight of this Windows 10 version update is the new Cortana
experience, which now takes the form of a chat"

"The Your Phone app lets you place, receive, or text reply to incoming
phone calls from your PC. Previously, this feature only worked if you
had a supported Android device and an x86/x86-64 Windows 10 PC."

"Other smaller features in this update include:
(4) Faster Bluetooth pairing
(5) More kaomoji available within the Windows emoji keyboard
(6) Virtual desktops can now be named.
(7) The Xbox Game Bar now supports third-party widgets
(8) Memory improvements in Microsoft Edge
(9) The Calculator app can now float on top of other windows
(10) Notepad updated with wrap-around find/replace
(11) Notepad updated with quick text zooming
(12) Notepad updated to show when the file has unsaved changes"
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On 2020-05-28 10:26, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2020 09:54:04 -0700, T wrote:

I am now officially on Windows Nein (w10) build 2004
(that aught to **** of the M$ fanbois).

I mounted the iso and installed from there. Everything
was pretty uneventful.

Have not used it for anything yet.

You beat me!

I had opted for the ISO to DVD which I tried burning (twice) using ImgBurn
freeware, and it failed, both times. Dunno why.

I'll see if I can catch up to you!


ya. everyone else makes a direct dd of their iso's.
but not m$

a flash drive is about 10 times faster

On 2020-05-29 4:22 p.m., T wrote:
On 2020-05-28 10:26, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2020 09:54:04 -0700, T wrote:

I am now officially on Windows Nein (w10) build 2004
(that aught to **** of the M$ fanbois).

I mounted the iso and installed from there.Â* Everything
was pretty uneventful.

Have not used it for anything yet.

You beat me!

I had opted for the ISO to DVD which I tried burning (twice) using
ImgBurn
freeware, and it failed, both times. Dunno why.

I'll see if I can catch up to you!


ya.Â* everyone else makes a direct dd of their iso's.
but not m$

a flash drive is about 10 times faster

Yup, D/L to flash drive, Install from there, Whole thing done in 36
minutes .
No problems, no gotchas. no slow DVDs.

Rene

On Fri, 29 May 2020 14:22:56 -0700, T wrote:

ya. everyone else makes a direct dd of their iso's.

I was able to burn the 2004 Win10 to a DVD using ImgBurn (third try).

Don't ask me why it took 3 tries; maybe a bad batch of optical media?
Disc Information:
Sectors: 2,023,520
Size: 4,144,168,960 bytes
MID: CMC MAG. AM3
Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG. AM3
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,220,127
etc.

Moving forward, one question, mainly for Paul, since he "might" know...
a. I can't get a desktop to boot due to this issue
Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem
b. I haven't yet bought a replacement HDD which I know would work just fine
with the new Windows 10 (which is really my plan).
c. However, I doubt there is anything wrong with the old HDD
d. But I haven't backed it up yet (too big).

Is there any way to "repair" the bad HDD given this circumstance:
1. When I put the bad HDD in the bad desktop, it won't boot.
2. However, when I put the bad HDD in a good desktop, it shows up.
(I did NOT set it as the boot disk though.)
3. How can I 'repair' that bad HDD using this new 2004 Windows 10 disc?

Can I do this?
a. Put the bad HDD in the bad desktop and boot to the 2004 Win10 disc.
b. Then "repair" the bad HDD without losing the data outside of Windows?

If I can't, then I have to buy a new HDD and then I know it will work.
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