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The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020



 
 
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  #31  
Old June 1st 20, 08:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

Arlen Holder wrote:
UPDATE: (dateline Jun 1, 2020, 6:16am EDT)

"Microsoft has a list of 10 issues it's currently investigating, and
9 of them have resulted in a *compatibility hold* which stops the
Windows 10 May 2020 Update from being installed via Windows Update."

o Microsoft is blocking the Windows 10 May 2020 Update on lots of devices
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/1/21276653/microsoft-windows-10-may-2020-update-block-known-issues-list

"Microsoft has also added a warning to Windows Update
over the weekend for devices that aren't ready to be updated."

Here's the warning I received (did you get it also?):
https://i.postimg.cc/vBYjkVst/update01.jpg


https://www.askwoody.com/category/windows-10-releases/

"Microsoft’s been testing it since December"

Yes, I saw a 19041 a long time ago, possibly on the Insider disk.

But it's the same old problem it's always been. What they ship in
May, bears no resemblance to what staff are dogfooding or what
Insiders test.

The testing platforms are to check "active areas of development".
"Does my new spinning Cortana icon look nice?" That's what the
testing determines.

It seems to be assumed the driver side of things is working,
and they tend to "pour a driver set into the box at the last minute".
That's just my personal impression, based on how the release one
never quite seems to work the same as the beta edition. With the
NVidia thing, they should be running nightly regressions to
check that older WDDM continue to work. (So the Win10 on this
machine can work! Thanks.)

And when Avast or CCleaner installs don't quite work right (stuff
that's presumably under active development), that just smells bad.
The company involved has access to 19041 for internal usage, and
could be dealing with changes on what is presumed to be a "frozen"
release. The release number does not stay at 19041 as a joke.
If they're doing new builds, then this should be reflected
in the build number being advanced.

If they did it properly, then we'd know *why* it's like this.
As the bumped build number would tell you "whoa, untested stuff",
just like is happening in practice.

There's something about the way the cake is made, which isn't
right.

And the problems with Always On device (perhaps S0ic ACPI option),
now why is that changing at the last minute ? ACPI behavior should
be frozen into the 19041 release freeze, it shouldn't be something
where "lets just pour in these code changes at the last minute,
untested, and release". I can't see the profit in pouring
untested ACPI code into *anything*. That's nuts.

Generally, the spectrum of problems does not indicate good curation
or buildmeistering.

What the hell is the point of "testing since December", if you
have no discipline ? Just admit you have no discipline, and set
the ****ing build number accordingly. At least then, the numerical
evidence will match the experience, versus the symptoms being
"such a mystery, aliens did it". Well, I don't think ET messed
up their SOic code (that's something I don't have in the
computer room fortunately, you Surface customers enjoy
yourselves :-) )

Paul
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  #32  
Old June 2nd 20, 04:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

On Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:33:05 -0400, Paul wrote:

But it's the same old problem it's always been. What they ship in
May, bears no resemblance to what staff are dogfooding or what
Insiders test.

The testing platforms are to check "active areas of development".
"Does my new spinning Cortana icon look nice?" That's what the
testing determines.


Hi Paul,

I spent decades in software (among other things) in the Silicon Valley,
where you seem to have an excellent handle on the problem of hundreds to
thousands of developers, rolling up at different times into what QA then
has to test, after the fact, as a "release" (where the developers instantly
move on to the "next" release, well before the "release" is released!).
a. The checks are mostly on the newly released code, often in a vacuum.
b. R&D is constantly slipping in code changes up until code freeze date.
c. They test on a "common platform" for consistency (i.e., drivers).

By the time they actually release, R&D is often months ahead on the stuff
which they started working on the day after code freeze.
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  #33  
Old June 2nd 20, 09:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

On 5/31/2020 7:40 PM, Boris wrote:
It opens up Windows Live Mail, my default email client.

Firefox has 'Email link...' in it's File menu, as does little sister
Waterfox.

The old Edge, upon clicking 'Share', presents only Windows 10 Mail, some
social media account, or a Microsoft app, none of which I need/want. I
wonder if the new Edge is enough Chromium-like that if there's no 'Email
link', it may accept the type configuration that SRWare and Brave accept.


Since it's being customized by Microsoft, I'm sure Microsoft wants you
to keep using their own email client, so they would likely configure it
to at least go to Microsoft's clients by default.

Yousuf Khan
  #34  
Old June 3rd 20, 12:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Boris[_8_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

Yousuf Khan wrote in
:

On 5/31/2020 7:40 PM, Boris wrote:
It opens up Windows Live Mail, my default email client.

Firefox has 'Email link...' in it's File menu, as does little sister
Waterfox.

The old Edge, upon clicking 'Share', presents only Windows 10 Mail,
some social media account, or a Microsoft app, none of which I
need/want. I wonder if the new Edge is enough Chromium-like that if
there's no 'Email link', it may accept the type configuration that
SRWare and Brave accept.


Since it's being customized by Microsoft, I'm sure Microsoft wants you
to keep using their own email client, so they would likely configure
it to at least go to Microsoft's clients by default.

Yousuf Khan


No doubt, but since it's more Chromium-like, I'd like to hear from
someone who may have tried the above on the new version, since the older
Edge version is limited to Microsoft products for email. In other words,
is it possible to configure the Chromium-like Edge to use a non-Microsoft
email client as the default email client?
  #35  
Old June 5th 20, 08:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE:
o *How to Quickly Remove Windows 10's v2004 New Cortana App*
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-quickly-remove-windows-10s-new-cortana-app-1843906742

To prevent Window 10 v2004 Cortana from starting up at boot:
(1) Control+Shift+Escape will open up the Windows Task Manager
(2) Click the "Startup" tab & then right-click on "Cortana"
(3) Select "Disable" from the available options

To delete the Windows 10 v2004 Cortana app:
(1) Win+R powershell{control+shift+enter} == opens as administrator
(2) Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.549981C3F5F10 | Remove-AppxPackage

To stop showing of the now-dead Cortana button in the Windows taskbar:
(1) Right-click on the Windows taskbar
(2) Uncheck the "Show Cortana button" option
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  #36  
Old June 10th 20, 04:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE

Microsoft & Lenovo are working together on their v2004 install issues...
o Windows 10 May 2020 Update is causing big problems for some Lenovo laptops
https://www.techradar.com/news/windows-10-may-2020-update-is-causing-big-problems-for-some-lenovo-laptops

If you have a Lenovo, then they suggest a bunch of workarounds, e.g.,
Synaptics ThinkPad UltraNav driver issue
Lenovo has found that some of its devices are showing an error message that
says 'Failed to load Apoint.DLL, Alps Pointing device application has
stopped' when users try to use the system recovery feature.

According to Lenovo, to fix the problem do the following:

Open Device Manager.
Expand 'Mice and other pointing devices'.
Select 'Think UltraNav device'.
Right-click on it and update driver to the latest version.
Restart your computer.
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That's just one of them, as the cite contains more if you need them.
  #37  
Old June 11th 20, 11:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Roy Smith[_6_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

On 6/2/2020 6:56 PM, Boris wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote in
:

On 5/31/2020 7:40 PM, Boris wrote:
It opens up Windows Live Mail, my default email client.

Firefox has 'Email link...' in it's File menu, as does little sister
Waterfox.

The old Edge, upon clicking 'Share', presents only Windows 10 Mail,
some social media account, or a Microsoft app, none of which I
need/want. I wonder if the new Edge is enough Chromium-like that if
there's no 'Email link', it may accept the type configuration that
SRWare and Brave accept.


Since it's being customized by Microsoft, I'm sure Microsoft wants you
to keep using their own email client, so they would likely configure
it to at least go to Microsoft's clients by default.

Yousuf Khan


No doubt, but since it's more Chromium-like, I'd like to hear from
someone who may have tried the above on the new version, since the older
Edge version is limited to Microsoft products for email. In other words,
is it possible to configure the Chromium-like Edge to use a non-Microsoft
email client as the default email client?


Short answer, no you can't. I've been using the chromium base Edge ever
since the Beta version was opened to the public back in November 2018. I
really like it, but that's one thing that I've complained about and
apparently those complaints fell on deaf ears.

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Thursday, June 11, 2020, 5:30 AM
Windows 10 Pro, Thunderbird 68.9.0

  #38  
Old June 11th 20, 06:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Boris[_8_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

Roy Smith wrote in
:

On 6/2/2020 6:56 PM, Boris wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote in
:

On 5/31/2020 7:40 PM, Boris wrote:
It opens up Windows Live Mail, my default email client.

Firefox has 'Email link...' in it's File menu, as does little
sister Waterfox.

The old Edge, upon clicking 'Share', presents only Windows 10 Mail,
some social media account, or a Microsoft app, none of which I
need/want. I wonder if the new Edge is enough Chromium-like that
if there's no 'Email link', it may accept the type configuration
that SRWare and Brave accept.

Since it's being customized by Microsoft, I'm sure Microsoft wants
you to keep using their own email client, so they would likely
configure it to at least go to Microsoft's clients by default.

Yousuf Khan


No doubt, but since it's more Chromium-like, I'd like to hear from
someone who may have tried the above on the new version, since the
older Edge version is limited to Microsoft products for email. In
other words, is it possible to configure the Chromium-like Edge to
use a non-Microsoft email client as the default email client?


Short answer, no you can't. I've been using the chromium base Edge
ever since the Beta version was opened to the public back in November
2018. I really like it, but that's one thing that I've complained
about and apparently those complaints fell on deaf ears.


Oh, well. Now I know. Thanks.
  #39  
Old June 14th 20, 02:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE:
o Microsoft's latest Windows 10 updates come with nasty printer bugs
They render certain printers unable to print.
https://www.engadget.com/microsofts-windows-10-updates-printer-bugs-000112943.html

"the issue affects various HP, Canon, Panasonic, Brother and Ricoh
printer models. Some users even reported being unable to print
files as PDFs."
  #40  
Old June 14th 20, 10:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 01:42:10 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

UPDATE:
o Microsoft's latest Windows 10 updates come with nasty printer bugs
They render certain printers unable to print.
https://www.engadget.com/microsofts-windows-10-updates-printer-bugs-000112943.html

"the issue affects various HP, Canon, Panasonic, Brother and Ricoh
printer models. Some users even reported being unable to print
files as PDFs.



My Epson ET-4700 all in one printer suddenly stopped being able to
scan to PDFs. Updating the firmware seemed to fix that.
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  #41  
Old June 14th 20, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE
"Cannot create new Storage Space. Error (0x00000057):
The parameter is incorrect."

Windows 10 May 2020 Update bug hits Storage Spaces, Defrag tool
https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/06/13/windows-10-may-2020-update-bug-hits-storage-spaces-defrag-tool/

Windows 10 May 2020 Update is causing major hard drive management issues
https://mspoweruser.com/the-windows-10-may-2020-update-may-be-causing-major-hard-drive-management-issues/
"Windows 10 2004 appears to have multiple issues with hard disk
drive management"
  #42  
Old June 16th 20, 02:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE:
"Edge and Chrome bugs add to people's problems
after installing the new Windows 10 version 2004"

"The browser issues on Windows 10 2004 add to a pile of problems
already discovered with incompatible Intel, Nvidia and Realtek
drivers, and last week two apparently separate printer problems
surfaced. "

o *Windows 10 2004 issues: Now browser bugs hit*
https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-2004-issues-now-browser-bugs-hit-edge-startup-launches-chrome-sign-outs/

"Microsoft is investigating a bug that causes Chromium-based Edge to
automatically launch when Windows 10 version 2004 starts up"

"users keep getting signed out of Chrome and forced to sign back in"

"Firefox users are also reporting the browser is crashing
after installing Windows 10 2004"

"There's also a compatibility hold on Windows 10 2004 for several
Surface devices, which will remain in place for several more weeks"
  #43  
Old June 23rd 20, 05:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE:

For ISO burning size information, see this thread from today:
o *2004 iso 4.9 GB?, by T*
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/TpWzRdZ7/2004-iso-4-9-gb
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  #44  
Old June 27th 20, 01:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020

UPDATE: (dateline today)

In Win10 v 2004...
"Microsoft has quietly reduced the amount of time Windows 10 Pro,
Enterprise, and Education users can manually delay updates,
from 365 days to just 35 days, which is the current amount of time
Home users have."

"Business users can still defer updates via the Group Policy setting."

"According to Microsoft, this change is intentional."
--
o Microsoft Kills One of Its Best Windows 10 Update Loopholes
https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-kills-one-of-its-best-windows-10-update-looph-1844180993
 




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