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I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version
has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of euphemisms). Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. -- Mike Easter |
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On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions for years. Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an elephant in ages. :-) Rene |
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I run it and Malware-bytes Malwarebytes as realtime or just periodic? -- Mike Easter |
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"Ed Cryer" wrote in message news
I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of euphemisms). Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? Ed Try the free Avast and put it in 'Game Mode'. That stops almost all of the annoying popups. Seems to be low impact, also. Quick and asy to try. Also free!! -- Buffalo |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:29:50 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote in On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions for years. Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an elephant in ages. :-) Rene I have Win7pro/32. How do I determine if MSE is installed on my computer? When I look in Control Panel Programs Programs and Features, I don't see it. Thanks -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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CRNG wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:29:50 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote in On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions for years. Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an elephant in ages. :-) Rene I have Win7pro/32. How do I determine if MSE is installed on my computer? When I look in Control Panel Programs Programs and Features, I don't see it. Thanks Entry in Control Panel/ uninstall list Icon in systray; green tent with white tick Entry in Program Files(X86)/ Microsoft Security Client Ed |
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Rene Lamontagne news
Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:29:50 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:
On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions for years. Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an elephant in ages. :-) Rene Just keep in mind, despite the marketing hype, Malwarebytes is NOT a suitable replacement for antivirus. It doesn't do anything with an actual virus. It cannot clean infected or patched files. It doesn't scan inside ms word .doc files, either. -- https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php For such a cute kid, you sure turned out ugly. |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 15:52:58 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
wrote: On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:48:45 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote: Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? In a word.. NO!! That word is completely wrong. Of course it protects. Does it protect *perfectly*. No. But no anti-virus program does. |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 15:52:58 -0700, The Newest Other Guy wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:48:45 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote: Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? In a word.. NO!! A bit harsh - see he http://robert.ocallahan.org/2017/01/...re-except.html |
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Diesel wrote:
Rene Lamontagne news Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:29:50 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions for years. Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an elephant in ages. :-) Rene Just keep in mind, despite the marketing hype, Malwarebytes is NOT a suitable replacement for antivirus. It doesn't do anything with an actual virus. It cannot clean infected or patched files. It doesn't scan inside ms word .doc files, either. Cobblers! I was recently ferreting inside the Malwarebytes folder, and I found the quarantine file had got a bit plumptious. So I investigated how to empty it, and the method is to simply delete it. It didn't get fat by accident. Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of euphemisms). Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? Ed Consumer Complaints and Reviews https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/avg.html Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of euphemisms). Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? Ed Consumer Complaints and Reviews https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/avg.html Ed I battled through all those over the months; I found a way to remove Zen, avoid the pop-ups, keep intrusiveness to a minimum; but the latest update defeated me. It got me into a roundelay of "Reboot to cure this"; I rebooted, it said "Reboot to cure this" ; I rebooted, it said "..". So I did a repair install, which went okay, rebooted and it said "Reboot to ...". No doubt I could have found a cure, but the thought hit me "Yet another one! AVG are hell-bound on driving me to the paid-for version; and I (silly fool) am spending time and energy in the fight. And I have better things to do". So, I installed MSE. And if MSE drags me into a similar battle, I'll uninstall it, digitise myself and dive into the bits and pieces of this bag of tricks and do personal battle with the little buggers that reside there; like Iron Man and Superman. Ed (:- |
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On 6/17/2017 10:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Diesel wrote: Rene Lamontagne news Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:29:50 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s. It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection. Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions for years. Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an elephant in ages. :-) Rene Just keep in mind, despite the marketing hype, Malwarebytes is NOT a suitable replacement for antivirus. It doesn't do anything with an actual virus. It cannot clean infected or patched files. It doesn't scan inside ms word .doc files, either. Cobblers! I was recently ferreting inside the Malwarebytes folder, and I found the quarantine file had got a bit plumptious. So I investigated how to empty it, and the method is to simply delete it. It didn't get fat by accident. Ed What is the file-name of the quarantine file? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com Consider: * Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance. * Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance. * If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory. * If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory. Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad?? |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of euphemisms). Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment. But does it protect? Ed Consumer Complaints and Reviews https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/avg.html Ed I battled through all those over the months; I found a way to remove Zen, avoid the pop-ups, keep intrusiveness to a minimum; but the latest update defeated me. It got me into a roundelay of "Reboot to cure this"; I rebooted, it said "Reboot to cure this" ; I rebooted, it said "..". So I did a repair install, which went okay, rebooted and it said "Reboot to ...". No doubt I could have found a cure, but the thought hit me "Yet another one! AVG are hell-bound on driving me to the paid-for version; and I (silly fool) am spending time and energy in the fight. And I have better things to do". So, I installed MSE. And if MSE drags me into a similar battle, I'll uninstall it, digitise myself and dive into the bits and pieces of this bag of tricks and do personal battle with the little buggers that reside there; like Iron Man and Superman. Ed (:- If you're having trouble with a commercial AV product, look for the "removal tool" for the product. http://www.avg.com/ca-en/utilities AVG Remover (AVG_Remover.exe) exe March 1, 2017 7 MB That removes the portion the "uninstaller" cannot remove. The general idea, is first you run the product uninstaller, and then you run the removal tool. It might be termed a "removal" or a "cleanup" tool. It's best if the web page that file is on, includes written instructions for usage (i.e. they may not all work exactly the same way). "AVG Remover is the last option to be used in case the AVG uninstall / repair installation process has failed repeatedly." Paul |
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