A Windows XP help forum. PCbanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PCbanter forum » Microsoft Windows XP » General XP issues or comments
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Making a Bootable Data Disk



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old December 22nd 08, 08:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frog
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6
Express. I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows
operating system for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my
really stupid question---how do I get to the Windows operating system
where this help is located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software
package includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD,
will allow one to start their system without having to enter the Windows
world. My goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place
the bootable information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog
Ads
  #2  
Old December 22nd 08, 08:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mick Murphy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,409
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

Download and install the particular burning software version from the above
link.

To make a bootable CD from the ISO fileright-click on the ISO file"Copy
Image to CD"

That is automatically put in the right-click options with that buring
software.
--
Mad Mike


"Frog" wrote:

I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6
Express. I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows
operating system for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my
really stupid question---how do I get to the Windows operating system
where this help is located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software
package includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD,
will allow one to start their system without having to enter the Windows
world. My goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place
the bootable information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog

  #3  
Old December 22nd 08, 09:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
M.I.5¾
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,722
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk


"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6 Express.
I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows operating system
for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my really stupid
question---how do I get to the Windows operating system where this help is
located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software package
includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD, will allow
one to start their system without having to enter the Windows world. My
goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place the bootable
information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.


To make a bootable CD, Nero first has to have acess to bootable image that
it can store in the image of the bootable media on the target CD. The image
is normally taken from a bootable floppy disc (hence why Nero is pointing
you that way). Alternatively, Nero should be able to use a pre existing
image of bootable media, but whether Nero is provided with one or not, I
can't say as I don't use Nero.

To make a bootable floppy disc, simply right click on the floppy drive and
select 'Format'. One of the options make a bootable disc. If you don't
have a floppy drive on your system, a suitable USB floppy drive can be had
for a small fee from any good PC store (and I believe PC world sells them as
well).


  #4  
Old December 22nd 08, 09:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Lil' Dave
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,313
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

They're talking about using the onboard help and support selection in XP.
Its available and visible at the desktop when pressing start. Keyword would
be "system disk". Find "format a disk" under full-text search matches.
The resulting ms-dos startup disk is what Nero needs for boot media
reference to make the CD bootable.

That aside, based on what your goal is, does not apply to your situation.

If I remember correctly, the resulting Casper CD will be bootable when using
CD creating software to implement a CD image (iso) to creating of a CD.
There was a nag in that portion of earlier Nero versions. The default was
".nrg" instead of ".iso" when it looked for CD image files. Select "all
files" when in that portion of the menu if that's the case.
--
Dave

"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6 Express.
I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows operating system
for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my really stupid
question---how do I get to the Windows operating system where this help is
located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software package
includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD, will allow
one to start their system without having to enter the Windows world. My
goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place the bootable
information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog



  #5  
Old December 22nd 08, 02:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Anna
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,039
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk


"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6 Express.
I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows operating system
for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my really stupid
question---how do I get to the Windows operating system where this help is
located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software package
includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD, will allow
one to start their system without having to enter the Windows world. My
goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place the bootable
information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog




"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
They're talking about using the onboard help and support selection in XP.
Its available and visible at the desktop when pressing start. Keyword
would be "system disk". Find "format a disk" under full-text search
matches.
The resulting ms-dos startup disk is what Nero needs for boot media
reference to make the CD bootable.

That aside, based on what your goal is, does not apply to your situation.

If I remember correctly, the resulting Casper CD will be bootable when
using CD creating software to implement a CD image (iso) to creating of a
CD. There was a nag in that portion of earlier Nero versions. The default
was ".nrg" instead of ".iso" when it looked for CD image files. Select
"all files" when in that portion of the menu if that's the case.
--
Dave



Frog:
As Dave has indicated it's ordinarily a simple matter for the Nero CD
burning program (I'm pretty sure that includes the v6 you're working with)
to create the Casper Startup CD. Merely double-click on the CASPER.ISO file
and the Nero Burning ROM program (which I'm assuming has been installed in
the Nero program) should automatically open. Then simply click on the Burn
button.
Anna


  #6  
Old December 22nd 08, 03:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frog
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

M.I.5¾ wrote:
"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6 Express.
I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows operating system
for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my really stupid
question---how do I get to the Windows operating system where this help is
located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software package
includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD, will allow
one to start their system without having to enter the Windows world. My
goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place the bootable
information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.


To make a bootable CD, Nero first has to have acess to bootable image that
it can store in the image of the bootable media on the target CD. The image
is normally taken from a bootable floppy disc (hence why Nero is pointing
you that way). Alternatively, Nero should be able to use a pre existing
image of bootable media, but whether Nero is provided with one or not, I
can't say as I don't use Nero.

To make a bootable floppy disc, simply right click on the floppy drive and
select 'Format'. One of the options make a bootable disc. If you don't
have a floppy drive on your system, a suitable USB floppy drive can be had
for a small fee from any good PC store (and I believe PC world sells them as
well).


I was successful in making a bootable floppy. I then used it as I was
making my Nero 6 CD. Well, the newly made CD did have the boot
information on it, but it would only take me to an A prompt point. I
attempted to direct it to the Casper.ISO drive (my D drive) and it would
not go there. I know that the BIOS in my system are properly set as
other CDs are found on startup. Thus, this process did not solve my
problem of being able to make a bootable Casper.ISO CD.

Thanks for your help.

Frog
  #7  
Old December 22nd 08, 04:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frog
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

Anna wrote:
"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6 Express.
I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows operating system
for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my really stupid
question---how do I get to the Windows operating system where this help is
located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software package
includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD, will allow
one to start their system without having to enter the Windows world. My
goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place the bootable
information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog




"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
They're talking about using the onboard help and support selection in XP.
Its available and visible at the desktop when pressing start. Keyword
would be "system disk". Find "format a disk" under full-text search
matches.
The resulting ms-dos startup disk is what Nero needs for boot media
reference to make the CD bootable.

That aside, based on what your goal is, does not apply to your situation.

If I remember correctly, the resulting Casper CD will be bootable when
using CD creating software to implement a CD image (iso) to creating of a
CD. There was a nag in that portion of earlier Nero versions. The default
was ".nrg" instead of ".iso" when it looked for CD image files. Select
"all files" when in that portion of the menu if that's the case.
--
Dave



Frog:
As Dave has indicated it's ordinarily a simple matter for the Nero CD
burning program (I'm pretty sure that includes the v6 you're working with)
to create the Casper Startup CD. Merely double-click on the CASPER.ISO file
and the Nero Burning ROM program (which I'm assuming has been installed in
the Nero program) should automatically open. Then simply click on the Burn
button.
Anna


Hi Anna,

I did as you suggested...double clicked the Caspar.ISO file and the
"Open With" window appeared. Nero was not included in the listing that
appeared. I then browsed for Nero Express and had it included in the
Open With selections. I again double clicked on the Caspar.ISO file and
then selected Nero Express in the listing. This time I got the
following message:

E:\Software\Caspar 5.0-IExplorer\CASPER.ISO is not a valid Win32
application.

I realize that I really wasn't attempting to open this Caspar.ISO
file...but that is the window that appeared when I double clicked on
this file.

Thanks again Anna for helping me.

Frog
  #8  
Old December 22nd 08, 04:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frog
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

Lil' Dave wrote:
They're talking about using the onboard help and support selection in XP.
Its available and visible at the desktop when pressing start. Keyword would
be "system disk". Find "format a disk" under full-text search matches.
The resulting ms-dos startup disk is what Nero needs for boot media
reference to make the CD bootable.

That aside, based on what your goal is, does not apply to your situation.

If I remember correctly, the resulting Casper CD will be bootable when using
CD creating software to implement a CD image (iso) to creating of a CD.
There was a nag in that portion of earlier Nero versions. The default was
".nrg" instead of ".iso" when it looked for CD image files. Select "all
files" when in that portion of the menu if that's the case.


You are right when you state "the resulting Casper CD will be bootable
when using CD creating software to implement a CD image (iso) to
creating of a CD". I also did the select "all files" during the process
(as you suggested)and that did not solve the problem.

Thanks fr your help.

Frog
  #9  
Old December 22nd 08, 04:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frog
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

Mick Murphy wrote:
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

Download and install the particular burning software version from the above
link.

To make a bootable CD from the ISO fileright-click on the ISO file"Copy
Image to CD"

That is automatically put in the right-click options with that buring
software.


I haven't overlooked your suggestion...just attempting to make Nero 6
work. I did visit the site you recommended and it appears that I will
need to download the "CreateCD - command-line CD burning tool for
Windows XP (all versions), Windows 2003 and Windows Vista" version of
this software since I my operating system is Windows-XP Pro SP3. Is
that the correct version for my system? I will continue my search for a
program that will produce a bootable Casper.ISO CD.

Thanks for your help.

Frog
  #10  
Old December 22nd 08, 05:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Anna
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,039
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk



"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6
Express. I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows
operating system for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes
my really stupid question---how do I get to the Windows operating
system where this help is located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software
package includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD,
will allow one to start their system without having to enter the
Windows world. My goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to
place the bootable information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog



"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
They're talking about using the onboard help and support selection in
XP. Its available and visible at the desktop when pressing start.
Keyword would be "system disk". Find "format a disk" under full-text
search matches.
The resulting ms-dos startup disk is what Nero needs for boot media
reference to make the CD bootable.

That aside, based on what your goal is, does not apply to your
situation.

If I remember correctly, the resulting Casper CD will be bootable when
using CD creating software to implement a CD image (iso) to creating of
a CD. There was a nag in that portion of earlier Nero versions. The
default was ".nrg" instead of ".iso" when it looked for CD image files.
Select "all files" when in that portion of the menu if that's the case.
--
Dave



Anna wrote:
Frog:
As Dave has indicated it's ordinarily a simple matter for the Nero CD
burning program (I'm pretty sure that includes the v6 you're working
with) to create the Casper Startup CD. Merely double-click on the
CASPER.ISO file and the Nero Burning ROM program (which I'm assuming has
been installed in the Nero program) should automatically open. Then
simply click on the Burn button.
Anna



"Frog" wrote in message news:Ou%23UA% Hi Anna,
I did as you suggested...double clicked the Caspar.ISO file and the "Open
With" window appeared. Nero was not included in the listing that
appeared. I then browsed for Nero Express and had it included in the Open
With selections. I again double clicked on the Caspar.ISO file and then
selected Nero Express in the listing. This time I got the following
message:

E:\Software\Caspar 5.0-IExplorer\CASPER.ISO is not a valid Win32
application.

I realize that I really wasn't attempting to open this Caspar.ISO
file...but that is the window that appeared when I double clicked on this
file.

Thanks again Anna for helping me.

Frog



Frog:
The problem may be that the Nero Burning ROM program is not installed in
your earlier version of Nero (v6). I know working with versions 7 & 8 that
application was part of the overall Nero program and it's included in their
latest v9 program (which I haven't worked with).

I'm assuming you have the Nero StartSmart program as a component of your
Nero 6 program, so open that program and click on the burn icon on the
bottom left corner of the opening screen. Does the application list that
displays indicate the Nero BurningROM is included in the Application list?
If not, can you find any way in v6 to install that program?

Another thing to try assuming the Nero BurningROM application *is* included
as part of your Nero program...
Download the .exe file to create the .iso file *directly* to your HDD rather
than downloading to a flash drive or other removable media. Then create the
ISO file by double-clicking on the .exe file so that the ISO file will be
located on your HDD. Although this might not be *your* problem, sometimes
there's a problem in executing a program from removable media. Anyway
something to try assuming the Nero BurningROM is included as a component of
your Nero program.

If not, perhaps you could download the trial version of v9 and hopefully be
able to install the Nero BurningROM program during the setup process.

Also, there are a number of free (or shareware) programs that are designed
to burn CDs from ISO images. Take a look at...
http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilit...dburning.shtml

Perhaps others coming upon this thread can make recommendations re a
desirable free or shareware program to burn a ISO image.
Anna


  #11  
Old December 23rd 08, 01:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frog
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk ((To all that helped me with thisproblem.))

Thank you everybody for your help...the problem seems to be solved at
this point. Here are some details about how this problem was solved.

The version of Nero that is on my system is 6.6.0.17 OEM. I open
this software from an ICON on my desktop. Once open, I am able
to make a number of selections under the following headings: Favorites,
Data, Audio, Photo and Video, Copy and Backup, and Extras. I was
attempting to make a CD from the "Make Bootable CD" under the Data
heading. Of course, this did not work as the information was an image
and not a data file. I started looking at other possibilities (after
receiving Anna's message); and I found a category listed under Extras,
that seemed to fit the bill...(i.e., Burn Image to Disk). I made a CD
of the Casper.ISO file using this category, and it worked. I then
restarted my computer with this CD in the CD/DVD drive, and it loaded
the startup disk without a problem. That made me a happy camper, to say
the least.

The bottom line is--there was no problem with Nero 6 doing this job,
there was no problem with the Casper.ISO image and there was a big
problem with the operator not knowing what he was doing. I will spend a
little more time documenting how I made this CD after completing this
message...I don't want to have to learn all over again the next time I
make a Casper.ISO startup disk.

Again, your help and support was very much appreciated.

Frog


  #12  
Old December 23rd 08, 01:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
spamme0
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 68
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

Frog wrote:
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6
Express. I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows
operating system for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my
really stupid question---how do I get to the Windows operating system
where this help is located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software
package includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD,
will allow one to start their system without having to enter the Windows
world. My goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place
the bootable information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.

Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog


The .iso file is an IMAGE of the disk.
You cannnot make it bootable if it's not already bootable...
without editing the .iso file or some other external sw.
In Nero express, you have to choose "disk image or saved project"
But you still can't see the file, because Nero likes to
make you think you have to use their extension.
Change the file filter to "files of type...all files"
Now, you can see the .iso file, just open it and it will burn.
Just did it and it works.
mike
  #13  
Old December 23rd 08, 02:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Anna
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,039
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk ((To all that helped me with this problem.))


"Frog" wrote in message
...
Thank you everybody for your help...the problem seems to be solved at this
point. Here are some details about how this problem was solved.

The version of Nero that is on my system is 6.6.0.17 OEM. I open
this software from an ICON on my desktop. Once open, I am able
to make a number of selections under the following headings: Favorites,
Data, Audio, Photo and Video, Copy and Backup, and Extras. I was
attempting to make a CD from the "Make Bootable CD" under the Data
heading. Of course, this did not work as the information was an image and
not a data file. I started looking at other possibilities (after
receiving Anna's message); and I found a category listed under Extras,
that seemed to fit the bill...(i.e., Burn Image to Disk). I made a CD of
the Casper.ISO file using this category, and it worked. I then restarted
my computer with this CD in the CD/DVD drive, and it loaded the startup
disk without a problem. That made me a happy camper, to say the least.

The bottom line is--there was no problem with Nero 6 doing this job, there
was no problem with the Casper.ISO image and there was a big problem with
the operator not knowing what he was doing. I will spend a little more
time documenting how I made this CD after completing this message...I
don't want to have to learn all over again the next time I make a
Casper.ISO startup disk.

Again, your help and support was very much appreciated.

Frog



Frog:
Glad it all worked out with your v6 of Nero. It may be a trifle easier (but
not significantly so) with the later versions of Nero in that the "Nero
Burning ROM" application is installed as part of the general setup process
when installing the Nero program. So all one has to do is simply
double-click on the ISO file, the burn program automatically opens, and the
user just clicks on the Burn button. But truth-to-tell, the method you found
seems just as good and really not more time-consuming.
Anna


  #14  
Old December 23rd 08, 03:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 442
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:51:36 -0500, Frog wrote:

I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6
Express. I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows
operating system for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my
really stupid question---how do I get to the Windows operating system
where this help is located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software
package includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD,
will allow one to start their system without having to enter the Windows
world. My goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place
the bootable information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.


What would you like to burn?
Image, Project, Copy Disk Image or Save Project
File Name: Casper.iso


Windows-XP Pro. SP-3

Thanks for any help or advice sent my way.

Frog

  #15  
Old December 23rd 08, 07:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
M.I.5¾
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,722
Default Making a Bootable Data Disk


"Frog" wrote in message
...
M.I.5¾ wrote:
"Frog" wrote in message
...
I am attempting to make a bootable CD for my system using Nero 6
Express. I am being directed by the Nero software to the Windows
operating system for help in making a "boot floppy disk". Here comes my
really stupid question---how do I get to the Windows operating system
where this help is located?

I have a backup of my system that was made using Casper software...this
backup is located on an external hard drive. The Casper software
package includes a Casper.ISO file that, when burned to a bootable CD,
will allow one to start their system without having to enter the Windows
world. My goal is to find a way, when using Nero 6 Express, to place
the bootable information on a CD with the Casper.ISO file.


To make a bootable CD, Nero first has to have acess to bootable image
that it can store in the image of the bootable media on the target CD.
The image is normally taken from a bootable floppy disc (hence why Nero
is pointing you that way). Alternatively, Nero should be able to use a
pre existing image of bootable media, but whether Nero is provided with
one or not, I can't say as I don't use Nero.

To make a bootable floppy disc, simply right click on the floppy drive
and select 'Format'. One of the options make a bootable disc. If you
don't have a floppy drive on your system, a suitable USB floppy drive can
be had for a small fee from any good PC store (and I believe PC world
sells them as well).


I was successful in making a bootable floppy. I then used it as I was
making my Nero 6 CD. Well, the newly made CD did have the boot
information on it, but it would only take me to an A prompt point. I
attempted to direct it to the Casper.ISO drive (my D drive) and it would
not go there. I know that the BIOS in my system are properly set as other
CDs are found on startup. Thus, this process did not solve my problem of
being able to make a bootable Casper.ISO CD.


If that's what the bootable floppy did then that is what the CD will do when
you boot it. You need to include in the bootable floppy the MS-DOS CD
driver MSCDEX.EXE to provide access to the rest of the CD. You can also
include the necessary instructions in AUTOEXEC.BAT to automatically run
whatever it is you want to execute from the CD.


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PCbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.