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Old January 4th 05, 02:21 AM
Paul
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Default Problem networking Windows 98SE and XP Home SP2

I am new to home networking. I started with a desktop running 98SE with
internet access through dialup, then through a cable modem. I am now trying
to network it with a notebook running XP Home SP2 using a D-Link wired
router. Both computers can access the internet through my cable modem but
cannot talk to each other. My goal is to share a printer on 98SE and hard
drives both ways.

The 98SE can ping its own IP, the router's IP, and the XP's IP but there is
nothing in the Network Neighborhood exept the "entire network" which I am
unable to browse.

The XP can ping its own IP and the router's IP but gets a "request timed
out" when pinging the 98SE IP. However, the 98SE shows up as a workgroup
computer but it is not accessible.

Both computers have the exact same work group and the IP addresses are
assigned automatically (router = 192.168.0.1, XP = 192.168.0.108, 98SE =
192.068.0.118). I ran the network wizard resident on the XP and I also ran
the XP network wizard on the 98SE but from the XP CD. The NetBios is enabled
in XP and selected but grayed out in 98SE.

My networking properties are as follows:

98SE - Client for MS Networks
Dial-Up Adapter
Motorola Cable Modem
RealTek NIC
TCP/IP for Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP for Cable Modem
TCP/IP for RealTek NIC
File and Print Sharing

XP - Client for MS Networks
File and Print Sharing
QoS Packet Scheduler
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

I have disabled the Windows firewall on the XP and have ZoneAlarm running on
98SE and security suite including firewall running on XP. I have tried with
firewalls running and with firewalls disabled.

--
Paul
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Old January 4th 05, 02:49 AM
Doug Sherman [MVP]
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Default Problem networking Windows 98SE and XP Home SP2

ZoneAlarm is blocking ICMP echo (ping) on the Win98 machine and is problably
blocking network connections on both machines. Disabling ZoneAlarm will not
work. You must either uninstall this software or configure it to allow
networking between these machines. See:

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/med...ser_Manual.pdf

Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I am new to home networking. I started with a desktop running 98SE with
internet access through dialup, then through a cable modem. I am now

trying
to network it with a notebook running XP Home SP2 using a D-Link wired
router. Both computers can access the internet through my cable modem but
cannot talk to each other. My goal is to share a printer on 98SE and hard
drives both ways.

The 98SE can ping its own IP, the router's IP, and the XP's IP but there

is
nothing in the Network Neighborhood exept the "entire network" which I am
unable to browse.

The XP can ping its own IP and the router's IP but gets a "request timed
out" when pinging the 98SE IP. However, the 98SE shows up as a workgroup
computer but it is not accessible.

Both computers have the exact same work group and the IP addresses are
assigned automatically (router = 192.168.0.1, XP = 192.168.0.108, 98SE =
192.068.0.118). I ran the network wizard resident on the XP and I also

ran
the XP network wizard on the 98SE but from the XP CD. The NetBios is

enabled
in XP and selected but grayed out in 98SE.

My networking properties are as follows:

98SE - Client for MS Networks
Dial-Up Adapter
Motorola Cable Modem
RealTek NIC
TCP/IP for Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP for Cable Modem
TCP/IP for RealTek NIC
File and Print Sharing

XP - Client for MS Networks
File and Print Sharing
QoS Packet Scheduler
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

I have disabled the Windows firewall on the XP and have ZoneAlarm running

on
98SE and security suite including firewall running on XP. I have tried

with
firewalls running and with firewalls disabled.

--
Paul



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Old January 4th 05, 08:27 AM
Carey Holzman
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Default Problem networking Windows 98SE and XP Home SP2

www.careyholzman.com/net1.htm

Carey

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I am new to home networking. I started with a desktop running 98SE with
internet access through dialup, then through a cable modem. I am now
trying
to network it with a notebook running XP Home SP2 using a D-Link wired
router. Both computers can access the internet through my cable modem but
cannot talk to each other. My goal is to share a printer on 98SE and hard
drives both ways.

The 98SE can ping its own IP, the router's IP, and the XP's IP but there
is
nothing in the Network Neighborhood exept the "entire network" which I am
unable to browse.

The XP can ping its own IP and the router's IP but gets a "request timed
out" when pinging the 98SE IP. However, the 98SE shows up as a workgroup
computer but it is not accessible.

Both computers have the exact same work group and the IP addresses are
assigned automatically (router = 192.168.0.1, XP = 192.168.0.108, 98SE =
192.068.0.118). I ran the network wizard resident on the XP and I also
ran
the XP network wizard on the 98SE but from the XP CD. The NetBios is
enabled
in XP and selected but grayed out in 98SE.

My networking properties are as follows:

98SE - Client for MS Networks
Dial-Up Adapter
Motorola Cable Modem
RealTek NIC
TCP/IP for Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP for Cable Modem
TCP/IP for RealTek NIC
File and Print Sharing

XP - Client for MS Networks
File and Print Sharing
QoS Packet Scheduler
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

I have disabled the Windows firewall on the XP and have ZoneAlarm running
on
98SE and security suite including firewall running on XP. I have tried
with
firewalls running and with firewalls disabled.

--
Paul



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Old January 5th 05, 05:49 AM
yba02
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Default Problem networking Windows 98SE and XP Home SP2

Hi,
I have the same connection but a different outcome.
After trying all possible combinations of the various MS and MS-compliant
protocols, here is what I had and what worked for me:
Protocols: Both machine HAD to use TCP/IP and IPX/SPX compliant protocol.
Outcome: Both machines could browse the other. Besides, the XP machine
could ping the 98 SE machine. However, the other way around returns a
"Request time out" message.

Any clue?
Thanks
Yba
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Old January 5th 05, 09:04 AM
Hans-Georg Michna
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Default Problem networking Windows 98SE and XP Home SP2

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:49:03 -0800, "yba02"
wrote:

I have the same connection but a different outcome.
After trying all possible combinations of the various MS and MS-compliant
protocols, here is what I had and what worked for me:
Protocols: Both machine HAD to use TCP/IP and IPX/SPX compliant protocol.
Outcome: Both machines could browse the other. Besides, the XP machine
could ping the 98 SE machine. However, the other way around returns a
"Request time out" message.


Yba,

after removing IPX you can use
http://www.michna.com/kb/wxnet.htm to solve this problem.

Hans-Georg

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Old January 10th 05, 12:47 AM
Paul
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Default Problem networking Windows 98SE and XP Home SP2

Thanks Doug,

I unisntalled ZoneAlarm and the XP immediately found the 98SE and could
share its printer and files. I have since uninstalled all firewall software
as I am protected by the firewall on my D-Link router.

The 98SE Network Neighborhood still only shows the entire network (and not
the XP) although I can find the XP if I use the "Start - Find - Computer"
function. I would like to share the XP files with the 98SE.

Any suggestions?

"Doug Sherman [MVP]" wrote:

ZoneAlarm is blocking ICMP echo (ping) on the Win98 machine and is problably
blocking network connections on both machines. Disabling ZoneAlarm will not
work. You must either uninstall this software or configure it to allow
networking between these machines. See:

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/med...ser_Manual.pdf

Doug Sherman
MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I am new to home networking. I started with a desktop running 98SE with
internet access through dialup, then through a cable modem. I am now

trying
to network it with a notebook running XP Home SP2 using a D-Link wired
router. Both computers can access the internet through my cable modem but
cannot talk to each other. My goal is to share a printer on 98SE and hard
drives both ways.

The 98SE can ping its own IP, the router's IP, and the XP's IP but there

is
nothing in the Network Neighborhood exept the "entire network" which I am
unable to browse.

The XP can ping its own IP and the router's IP but gets a "request timed
out" when pinging the 98SE IP. However, the 98SE shows up as a workgroup
computer but it is not accessible.

Both computers have the exact same work group and the IP addresses are
assigned automatically (router = 192.168.0.1, XP = 192.168.0.108, 98SE =
192.068.0.118). I ran the network wizard resident on the XP and I also

ran
the XP network wizard on the 98SE but from the XP CD. The NetBios is

enabled
in XP and selected but grayed out in 98SE.

My networking properties are as follows:

98SE - Client for MS Networks
Dial-Up Adapter
Motorola Cable Modem
RealTek NIC
TCP/IP for Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP for Cable Modem
TCP/IP for RealTek NIC
File and Print Sharing

XP - Client for MS Networks
File and Print Sharing
QoS Packet Scheduler
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

I have disabled the Windows firewall on the XP and have ZoneAlarm running

on
98SE and security suite including firewall running on XP. I have tried

with
firewalls running and with firewalls disabled.

--
Paul




 




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