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Old July 9th 18, 02:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Jason
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Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!

It's too bad to be borne!
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Old July 9th 18, 04:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Ejecting a HDD.

On 7/9/2018 9:51 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!


USB?

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Old July 9th 18, 06:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Jason
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Default Ejecting a HDD.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:34:56 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai
Chang" wrote:

On 7/9/2018 9:51 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!


USB?


Yes, I can eject USBs, so why can't it be done fot
HDDs.
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Old July 9th 18, 06:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Peter Jason wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:34:56 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai
Chang" wrote:

On 7/9/2018 9:51 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!

USB?


Yes, I can eject USBs, so why can't it be done fot
HDDs.


One has RMB bit set to zero, the other RMB bit
set to one ? RMB stands for removable media.

https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbstick_e.html

"Removable or what?"

Paul
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Old July 9th 18, 03:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Ejecting a HDD.

On 7/9/2018 1:19 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:34:56 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai
Chang" wrote:

On 7/9/2018 9:51 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?


USB?


Yes, I can eject USBs, so why can't it be done fot
HDDs.


If the hard disk was indeed connected to the computer via USB, it could
be ejected via the usual Safely Eject Hardware tray icon.

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不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援
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Old July 9th 18, 03:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

If the hard disk was indeed connected to the computer via USB, it could
be ejected via the usual Safely Eject Hardware tray icon.


Unless it can't be ejected (I find it varies from USB interface to
USB interface)
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Old July 9th 18, 05:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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On 7/9/2018 10:45 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

If the hard disk was indeed connected to the computer via USB, it
could be ejected via the usual Safely Eject Hardware tray icon.


Unless it can't be ejected (I find it varies from USB interface to
USB interface)


Registry?

Um... seldom encountered weird USB behavior over here.

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Old July 9th 18, 05:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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On 7/10/2018 12:19 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 7/9/2018 10:45 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

If the hard disk was indeed connected to the computer via USB, it
could be ejected via the usual Safely Eject Hardware tray icon.


Unless it can't be ejected (I find it varies from USB interface to
USB interface)


Registry?

Um... seldom encountered weird USB behavior over here.


Disk error? That the drive had no partition to mount?

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不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援
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Old July 9th 18, 09:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!

It's too bad to be borne!


Setting Hotplug for drive in BIOS if motherboard has feature.

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Old July 9th 18, 11:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 12:35:08 +0100, Philip Herlihy
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!

It's too bad to be borne!


Turning off write-caching (if currently on) would significantly reduce
the chances of data loss from sudden disconnection.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...le-disk-write-
caching-windows-10-a.html


Thanks.
I get this for some SSD's
https://postimg.cc/image/eq3xstk7b/
Which is the safer protection? I seem to be able
to select two boxes!

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Old July 12th 18, 02:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-07-08 21:51, Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!

It's too bad to be borne!


If it's connected via USB, find Open Devices And Printers, and Eject
them here.

If they are connected via external SATA cables, a search on
"How to mount and unmount external SATA drives under windows" should get
you some useful advice.

Good hunting!


When a user in another group had this problem, it
seemed to be related to the NTFS TXF file system
feature the backup software was using. Even though
the backup was finished, the TXF kept the storage
device open, and only the "Offline" method made
the drive available for "Safely Remove".

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...al-ntfs-portal

In practical terms that a user can understand,
normal I/O might be "smooth" to the destination
backup disk. If the program uses TXF, about once
or twice a second, "something" seems to update
and the heads have to move from the current location,
to some other location to do the update. So if TXF
is being used, and you expect the I/O to be
perfectly sequential... it isn't. You can "hear"
some unnecessary low-frequency noise coming from
the transfer as a result.

It's supposed to allow unrolling a transaction
easier, but I thought that's what the NTFS
journal was for ?

Paul


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Old July 12th 18, 06:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:11:44 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

I've always been suspicious of the backup software that comes with
external drives. The general come-on theme is "Just set it and forget
it". The above anecdote suggests that the "forget it" part means the
software will do things it shouldn't do, just to relieve the user of a
minor decision or two.



Just set it and forget it means you need to keep the external drive
connected. I think that's a very bad mistake. It's essentially
treating the external drive as if it were an internal drive.


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Old July 12th 18, 08:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Slootweg
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Default Ejecting a HDD.

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any way to eject a portable (for off-site
backups) HDD from the Windows10 Navigation pane?

Like is possible for USBs?

Currently I have to ''offline'' in the Disk
management!

It's too bad to be borne!


What brand of HDD is it? If WD (Western Digital), then look in the
hidden icons panel for a WD-related program ('WD Access'?), Quit it and
then retry the 'Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media'.

What often helps for me is to hibernate/resume the system and then
retry.
 




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