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  #16  
Old March 23rd 17, 11:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Music from .MP4

In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
Wow, that was quick - thanks!
Out of curiosity: (a) which browser (and version) do you use, (b)
how do you _do_ that, get the whole page (or, as in this case, even
better, a selection of it) into one .gif?


Practice :-)


The only reason a print cannot be made larger than that, is
108 inches is the coordinate space limit for Postscript (in this case).

Then, I pull that into GIMP and convert it to a GIF. In this case, I scaled
the image down a bit so it wouldn't get flagged on PostImg.


The original (FSVO!) .pdf would of course have been useful in that it
contains text, not a giant image; I was just interested in how you did
the .GIF. Thanks for the explanation!
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  #17  
Old March 23rd 17, 11:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Music from .MP4

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
Wow, that was quick - thanks!
Out of curiosity: (a) which browser (and version) do you use, (b)
how do you _do_ that, get the whole page (or, as in this case, even
better, a selection of it) into one .gif?


Practice :-)


The only reason a print cannot be made larger than that, is
108 inches is the coordinate space limit for Postscript (in this case).

Then, I pull that into GIMP and convert it to a GIF. In this case, I
scaled
the image down a bit so it wouldn't get flagged on PostImg.


The original (FSVO!) .pdf would of course have been useful in that it
contains text, not a giant image; I was just interested in how you did
the .GIF. Thanks for the explanation!


I don't have a Dropbox account, so I have to be
crafty to share info. And use a free site.

I don't know of any free sites that allow sharing PDFs,
especially because of the potential for copyright
issues (and takedown notices etc). You can't run
a sharing facility and be running around all day
with a mop and pail, removing content.

Paul
  #18  
Old March 24th 17, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Music from .MP4

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
I don't know of any free sites that allow sharing PDFs,
especially because of the potential for copyright
issues (and takedown notices etc). You can't run
a sharing facility and be running around all day
with a mop and pail, removing content.

Paul


Understood. Thanks.
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  #19  
Old April 23rd 17, 12:42 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp
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Default Music from .MP4

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:46:08 -0700, WinUser
wrote:

I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?


ffmpeg
Use with Avanti GUI,
  #20  
Old April 23rd 17, 12:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp
Lucifer Morningstar
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Default Music from .MP4

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 13:03:47 -0400, Paul
wrote:

WinUser wrote:
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?

TIA


I like FFMPEG. It works with movies, sound and video.

It's command line.


Avanti is a GUI for ffmpeg.

The following is an example only, but is
likely to work for your test.MP4 as well.

ffmpeg -i test.m4a -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 192k test.mp3

FFMPEG is normally available as source, however there are
build-meisters who make available very nice binaries.

https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

(Example of a Static build, a nightly from February...)
https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/wi...n32-static.zip

You want 32bit, static, because the static version, the ffmpeg.exe
file (36MB) has all the DLLs baked into the executable. That means
your copy of ffmpeg.exe is portable and can be put anywhere you
need to use it. That's why I prefer static builds.

The included ffplay.exe, plays stuff for you. So you can
verify that at least *something* will play it.

Paul

  #22  
Old April 23rd 17, 11:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Music from .MP4

In message , Reinhard
Skarbal writes:
In article , le
says...

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:46:08 -0700, WinUser
wrote:

I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?


ffmpeg
Use with Avanti GUI,


There is also xrecode II and newer xrecode III
http://xrecode.com/xrecode3/#Download

and TEncoder (using ffmpeg) http://tencoder.sourceforge.net/

Regards
Reinhard

I have these three (all free and these versions work under XP - websites
may not be for versions I have):

Free Video to Audio Converter version 2015 6.5.7
http://www.free-audio-editor.com/fre...oconverter.php

AoA Audio Extractor Basic version 2.3.7
http://www.aoamedia.com/audioextractor.htm

Pazera Free Audio Extractor 2.4 (32-bit)
http://www.pazera-software.com/produ...dio-extractor/ (scroll down
past the lists!)

All seem to do the job well; I think all I got from links people have
posted here (here being one of '7.general or 'xp.general).

Goldwave can also load (the audio from) several video file formats,
which of course it can then save in whatever format you want).

What I find difficult to do (with all of them - though I _think_ they
all _can_ do it - is to select the option to _not_ recode, but just
extract the audio. They all _seem_ to want to recode it for you, which
obviously takes longer and degrades (though usually not noticeably so)
the audio. (It doesn't help, of course, when the original is e. g. coded
as stereo but is in fact mono, or is coded at a much higher bit or
sample rate than is justified by the actual content, presumably because
it is thought [incorrectly in some cases!] to be insignificant compared
to the video so may as well just shove it to maximum.)
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about being more right over time and fixing what it got wrong.
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  #23  
Old April 23rd 17, 02:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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Default Music from .MP4 [or any other video]

I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.

MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.

To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.

http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

After it's installed, you can right click on the .MP4 and see what
streams it contains. Scroll down to the audio one, and look at the
format

Here's an example:

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 3 min 45 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 72.0 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 75.9 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.94 MiB (22%)

The important bit is "Format".

So to extract THIS audio WITHOUT re-encoding, I need to set the target
to AAC

ffmpeg -i input -c:a copy output.AAC

(where input is the COMPLETE name of the .MP4, MKV, AVI,
whatever, using double quotes if it has a space in the name)

Example

ffmpeg -i "My Favorite Music.MP4" -c:a copy "My Favorite
Music.AAC"

If Mediainfo showed a MP3, I'd use:

ffmpeg -i "My Favorite Music.MP4" -c:a copy "My Favorite
Music.MP3"

The extraction is as fast as your HD can write. A few seconds
for an hour of music, and there is NO distortion, as the stream is
COPIED, not re-encoded.

If you want to check the bitrate of the music after
extraction, use this tool:

http://spek.cc/

You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
****-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s
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  #24  
Old April 23rd 17, 05:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Music from .MP4 [or any other video]

In message , Shadow
writes:
I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.

MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.

To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.

http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows


To determine the streams, yes; to do what the OP wanted (extract the
audio), no. Although what you've explained/described is a good way to do
it. But - given that the post was/is in Windows 'groups - I think the OP
would probably prefer a GUI method. (Of which I've posted three, and
others have others.) Granted, the three I use don't make it _obvious_
how to do an extraction without recoding, though I think they _can_.
[]
You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
****-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s

Depends what it is wanted for. For listening to on a variety of the
portable devices around now, 96k probably can be acceptable for some
material.
--
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  #25  
Old April 23rd 17, 08:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
pjp[_10_]
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Default Music from .MP4 [or any other video]

In article ,
says...

In message , Shadow
writes:
I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.

MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.

To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.

http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

To determine the streams, yes; to do what the OP wanted (extract the
audio), no. Although what you've explained/described is a good way to do
it. But - given that the post was/is in Windows 'groups - I think the OP
would probably prefer a GUI method. (Of which I've posted three, and
others have others.) Granted, the three I use don't make it _obvious_
how to do an extraction without recoding, though I think they _can_.
[]
You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
****-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s

Depends what it is wanted for. For listening to on a variety of the
portable devices around now, 96k probably can be acceptable for some
material.


I believe Any Audio Converter will accept a mp4 file and spit out just
the audio. Not that I've tried to do that but memory serves me right I
once made the mistake of dropping a mp4 file into it rather than Any
Video Converter and it started doing the conversion so ???
  #26  
Old April 23rd 17, 10:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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Default Music from .MP4 [or any other video]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:42:56 -0300, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

In message , Shadow
writes:
I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.

MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.

To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.

http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

To determine the streams, yes; to do what the OP wanted (extract the
audio), no. Although what you've explained/described is a good way to do
it. But - given that the post was/is in Windows 'groups - I think the OP
would probably prefer a GUI method. (Of which I've posted three, and
others have others.) Granted, the three I use don't make it _obvious_
how to do an extraction without recoding, though I think they _can_.
[]
You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
****-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s

Depends what it is wanted for. For listening to on a variety of the
portable devices around now, 96k probably can be acceptable for some
material.


I believe Any Audio Converter will accept a mp4 file and spit out just
the audio. Not that I've tried to do that but memory serves me right I
once made the mistake of dropping a mp4 file into it rather than Any
Video Converter and it started doing the conversion so ???


Well, I just extracted the sound from a 1 hour video. It took
exactly 8 seconds, on my 10 year old PC.
If Any Audio Converter takes the same time (or less, on a
faster CPU) it's copying, more than that, it's converting.
Conversion always implies loss of quality.
[]'s
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  #27  
Old July 15th 18, 08:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp
tesla sTinker
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Default Music from .MP4

we use the audio editor, its free.
http://www.eartmedia.com/

On 3/22/2017 9:46 AM, WinUser scribbled:
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?

TIA

  #28  
Old July 16th 18, 07:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp
Reinhard Skarbal[_2_]
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Default Music from .MP4

In article ,
says...

we use the audio editor, its free.
http://www.eartmedia.com/

On 3/22/2017 9:46 AM, WinUser scribbled:
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?

TIA


Hi

I'm using DVBPortal MP4 Multiplexer/Demultiplexer Version 0.9.3
from http://www.dvbportal.de/projects/mp4muxer
Choose DEMULTIPLEX, select the mp4-file, select the audio-trac click
demultiplex and in a few seconds you have the audio-file in the original
version. Extracted without any conversion.

Regards
Reinhard

  #29  
Old July 16th 18, 08:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.windows-xp
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Music from .MP4

In message , Reinhard
Skarbal writes:
In article ,
says...

we use the audio editor, its free.
http://www.eartmedia.com/

On 3/22/2017 9:46 AM, WinUser scribbled:
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?

TIA


Hi

I'm using DVBPortal MP4 Multiplexer/Demultiplexer Version 0.9.3
from http://www.dvbportal.de/projects/mp4muxer
Choose DEMULTIPLEX, select the mp4-file, select the audio-trac click
demultiplex and in a few seconds you have the audio-file in the original
version. Extracted without any conversion.

Regards
Reinhard

There are lots of such extractors. I'm currently using Pazera Free Audio
Extractor - see http://www.pazera-software.com/produ...dio-extractor/
for details including the input and output formats it can do (I don't
know what your 'phone needs, but it's a big list - it can also extract
the unconverted original).
--
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