Malwarebytes BAD !

Just updated Malwarebytes to latest.

Malwarebytes is NOW MALWARE !

It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !


There is only the Restore option.

There is no IGNORE ALWAYS option !

What to do ?
Other than kill malwarebytes !

You TWIT.
I came here to get help figuring out how to do just that.

What kind of twit are you ?

You can drive a car but you cannot drive a grader ?
They both have wheels and controls.
Come on you twit, get in the grader and drive it.

(Oh yes, what the heck do all those knobs do ??? They have no
understandable icons or writing even)

On 08 May 2018, FredW wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

On Tue, 8 May 2018 09:58:14 -0700, aiole
wrote:
What to do ?
Other than kill malwarebytes !

Learn how to use MBAM ?

No chance of that, based on this clown's history here.

On 08/05/2018 19:13, aiole wrote:


(Oh yes, what the heck do all those knobs do ??? They have no
understandable icons or writing even)


Is that you SteveGG? Your writing style is giving away your ID.

Those knobs are for people like you with small brains to keep pressing
them. You might have seen little toddlers like to press round coloured
knobs and that is what software makers do these days. There seems to be
many people like you using something that they don't have a clue about.

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KenW wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 15:15:23 -0400, Nil
wrote:

On 08 May 2018, FredW wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

On Tue, 8 May 2018 09:58:14 -0700, aiole
wrote:
What to do ?
Other than kill malwarebytes !
Learn how to use MBAM ?
No chance of that, based on this clown's history here.

Probably wrote programs that don't have a certificate


KenW

Signed executables earn a tiny bit more respect.

The Speedfan guy had to do that, so his stuff could
be installed on modern OSes. That's a driver issue though.

Nothing prevents an intrepid program developer, from
doing development inside a VM... where the AV scanner can't
see what you're doing. I have at least one C compiler
inside a Win7 Virtual Machine, as an example. When I
compile my "Hello World" program, nobody deletes it on me :-)
I am the worlds foremost authority on three-line programs :-)

Begin
Hello World
End

Paul

"aiole" wrote

| Just updated Malwarebytes to latest.
|
| Malwarebytes is NOW MALWARE !
|
| It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
| They are NOT any kind of threat !
|

MB is great stuff. It tells you all sorts of bad
stuff is on your computer. But to use it properly
you need to ignore its reports.

I tried it once. It told me I had 10 grave
dangers. Several were Registry settings I wanted.
Several were harmless Registry settings. One
was my BootIt imaging software, which MB
wanted to eliminate as malware. MB didn't screw
up my system only because I understood the
items it was listing. Most people won't. And
there's no explanation. Just melodrama.

But why are you using it and why are you
allowing it to take unilateral action in the first
place? No matter how much you trust security
software, you should never allow it to make
decisions about things it claims are malware.

On Tue, 08 May 2018 13:38:11 -0600, KenW wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2018 15:15:23 -0400, Nil
wrote:

On 08 May 2018, FredW wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

On Tue, 8 May 2018 09:58:14 -0700, aiole
wrote:
What to do ?
Other than kill malwarebytes !

Learn how to use MBAM ?

No chance of that, based on this clown's history here.

Probably wrote programs that don't have a certificater


Why on earth would someone write a program with a certificate,
if it's for their own use ?
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FredW wrote:

aiole wrote:

You TWIT.
I came here to get help figuring out how to do just that.

And I gave you a clue to your main problem.

(Oh yes, what the heck do all those knobs do ??? They have no
understandable icons or writing even)

On the main screen (called Dashboard) I can see some "knobs" with text
on the left side.

And if you select a "knob" (after you have read what its purpose is),
you get a screen with tabs, again all tabs with text.

Why do you not see the text/writing?
What is your problem?

(I am not taking you serious anymore, goodbye)

The OP's post smacks of a prior one complaining about the same thing:
his programs that he wrote (wonder what programming or scripting
language that would be) were getting flagged as suspect. This looks
like a troll trying to flame a program that he hasn't a clue how to use
and too lazy to go look at its settings. His parents did a poor job
raising this kid as he thinks he's entitled: everything should cater to
his wants and the universe revolves around him. Looks like he mispelled
his "aiole" nym. He was off by one character: "i" instead of "h".
"a-hole" seems more fitting.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/support...xclusions.html
https://support.malwarebytes.com/docs/DOC-1130
(those cover both versions 2 and 3 of MBAM to add excludes)

Wonder what a-hole's excuse will be now. Oh yes, such a complicated
GUI. Well, maybe that's true for toddlers since this software has more
"knobs" than an Etch-A-Sketch.

A(i|h)hole's self protrait: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8l4el2t

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writes:
[]
Wonder what a-hole's excuse will be now. Oh yes, such a complicated
GUI. Well, maybe that's true for toddlers since this software has more
"knobs" than an Etch-A-Sketch.
[]
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aiole news Tue, 08 May 2018 16:58:14 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Just updated Malwarebytes to latest.

Malwarebytes is NOW MALWARE !

Erm.. No.

It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !

It's a false positive. Likely a bad definition is hitting on your
runtime. I'm assuming you're using an HLL based language?

There is only the Restore option.

There is no IGNORE ALWAYS option !

There used to be. Are you sure it's been removed?

What to do ?

Contact them, send samples of your programs when requested to do so
(yes, you'll need to do that in order for them to track down the
definition(s) responsible) so that it can be corrected in a later
definitions update.

Other than kill malwarebytes !

That's upto you.


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VanguardLH Wed, 09
May 2018 06:18:28 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

FredW wrote:

aiole wrote:

You TWIT.
I came here to get help figuring out how to do just that.

And I gave you a clue to your main problem.

(Oh yes, what the heck do all those knobs do ??? They have no
understandable icons or writing even)

On the main screen (called Dashboard) I can see some "knobs" with
text on the left side.

And if you select a "knob" (after you have read what its purpose
is), you get a screen with tabs, again all tabs with text.

Why do you not see the text/writing?
What is your problem?

(I am not taking you serious anymore, goodbye)

The OP's post smacks of a prior one complaining about the same
thing: his programs that he wrote (wonder what programming or
scripting language that would be) were getting flagged as suspect.

Likely an HLL of some sort. MBAM is hitting his files due to a false
positive issue present in the database. It's either going by filename
and or filename/location, or, it's a variable string hit. Either way,
it is actually a problem with MBAM, not the user.

This looks like a troll trying to flame a program that he hasn't
a clue how to use and too lazy to go look at its settings.

While I agree that his comment labeling it as Malware wasn't a sound
one, he shouldn't have to specifically tell Malwarebytes to ignore
programs he wrote and compiled if they aren't malware. It *IS* a
false positive hit. And, that's a *problem* on MBAMs end, not his.

His parents did a poor job raising this kid as he thinks he's
entitled: everything should cater to his wants and the universe
revolves around him.

Hmm. I didn't get that impression. I don't believe it's an issue of
entitlement for an antimalware utility not to have to specifically be
told to ignore files you know for a fact are not malware. That's an
issue with the antimalware software. And, it should be corrected.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/support...cy/MalwareExcl
usions.html https://support.malwarebytes.com/docs/DOC-1130
(those cover both versions 2 and 3 of MBAM to add excludes)

Which is a bandaid fix for the issue. It doesn't actually resolve
anything. It's quite possible the bad definition isn't just hitting
*his* files, but that of others as well.

The erroneous definition(s) should be corrected or removed from the
database. In order to do that, he needs to contact Malwarebytes and
submit his files.

Wonder what a-hole's excuse will be now. Oh yes, such a
complicated GUI. Well, maybe that's true for toddlers since this
software has more "knobs" than an Etch-A-Sketch.

Hmm..How is it possible that of three replies I've read on this
thread so far, none credited Malwarebytes for the false positive,
but, all assumed the OP is an idiot? I know Malwarebytes has been
spammed to hell and back and koolaid has been drank by the metric
tons at this point, but, seriously... Has it become that blinding?

Are the three of you listed by MID below, really that ****ing stupid?

Not *one* of you acknowledges the FALSE POSITIVE issue the OP is
complaining about, All *three* of you are blaming the OP for the
issue. As if it's their problem and theirs alone. Newsflash: it's
highly unlikely to be alerting on his programs and his alone
specifically. It is most likely, affecting other programs on machines
all over the world. It's also most likely, those people have no idea
why Malwarebytes thinks xxx file is malware. The OP would not only be
doing himself a favor by having it corrected, he'd be helping people
he doesn't even know who also use the product.

Demanding the OP tell Malwarebytes to ignore his files specifically
instead of having the actual issue corrected, IS A STUPID AND SELFISH
way of handling the issue. If you know for a fact you have clean
files that MBAM is hitting on, don't tell the damn program to just
ignore them, submit them so that the FALSE POSITIVES can be
corrected. As, it's most likely doing the same ****ing thing to
someone else. Everybody benefits this way. Including Malwarebytes;
they can free up room for definitions which are necessary.

Message-ID:
It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !
How should MBAM know you wrote something and that you are not a
threat?

Message-ID:
Message-ID:


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FredW
Tue, 08 May 2018
17:06:16 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On Tue, 8 May 2018 09:58:14 -0700, aiole
wrote:

Just updated Malwarebytes to latest.

Malwarebytes is NOW MALWARE !

No, it is not, you should learn how to use MBAM.

While the OP is wrong in the declaration of Malware, learning to use
MBAM isn't a difficult process. The newer GUIs are designed to hold
your hand...


It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !

How should MBAM know you wrote something and that you are not a
threat?

MBAM shouldn't care who wrote what. Fact is, it has one or more bad
definitions which are hitting his files when they shouldn't be. In
order to correct that issue, he'll have to submit his files to them
so they can determine which definitions are hitting and remove them.

Or, wait it out, they may get reports from others concerning this and
it'll clear up on it's own with a later definitions update.

Learn how to use MBAM ?

See above.




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VanguardLH Wed, 09
May 2018 06:18:28 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

FredW wrote:

aiole wrote:

You TWIT.
I came here to get help figuring out how to do just that.

And I gave you a clue to your main problem.

(Oh yes, what the heck do all those knobs do ??? They have no
understandable icons or writing even)

On the main screen (called Dashboard) I can see some "knobs" with
text on the left side.

And if you select a "knob" (after you have read what its purpose
is), you get a screen with tabs, again all tabs with text.

Why do you not see the text/writing?
What is your problem?

(I am not taking you serious anymore, goodbye)

The OP's post smacks of a prior one complaining about the same
thing: his programs that he wrote (wonder what programming or
scripting language that would be) were getting flagged as suspect.

Likely an HLL of some sort. MBAM is hitting his files due to a false
positive issue present in the database. It's either going by filename
and or filename/location, or, it's a variable string hit. Either way,
it is actually a problem with MBAM, not the user.

This looks like a troll trying to flame a program that he hasn't
a clue how to use and too lazy to go look at its settings.

While I agree that his comment labeling it as Malware wasn't a sound
one, he shouldn't have to specifically tell Malwarebytes to ignore
programs he wrote and compiled if they aren't malware. It *IS* a
false positive hit. And, that's a *problem* on MBAMs end, not his.

His parents did a poor job raising this kid as he thinks he's
entitled: everything should cater to his wants and the universe
revolves around him.

Hmm. I didn't get that impression. I don't believe it's an issue of
entitlement for an antimalware utility not to have to specifically be
told to ignore files you know for a fact are not malware. That's an
issue with the antimalware software. And, it should be corrected.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/support...cy/MalwareExcl
usions.html https://support.malwarebytes.com/docs/DOC-1130
(those cover both versions 2 and 3 of MBAM to add excludes)

Which is a bandaid fix for the issue. It doesn't actually resolve
anything. It's quite possible the bad definition isn't just hitting
*his* files, but that of others as well.

The erroneous definition(s) should be corrected or removed from the
database. In order to do that, he needs to contact Malwarebytes and
submit his files.

Wonder what a-hole's excuse will be now. Oh yes, such a
complicated GUI. Well, maybe that's true for toddlers since this
software has more "knobs" than an Etch-A-Sketch.

Hmm..How is it possible that of three replies I've read on this
thread so far, none credited Malwarebytes for the false positive,
but, all assumed the OP is an idiot? I know Malwarebytes has been
spammed to hell and back and koolaid has been drank by the metric
tons at this point, but, seriously... Has it become that blinding?

Are the three of you listed by MID below, really that ****ing stupid?

Not *one* of you acknowledges the FALSE POSITIVE issue the OP is
complaining about, All *three* of you are blaming the OP for the
issue. As if it's their problem and theirs alone. Newsflash: it's
highly unlikely to be alerting on his programs and his alone
specifically. It is most likely, affecting other programs on machines
all over the world. It's also most likely, those people have no idea
why Malwarebytes thinks xxx file is malware. The OP would not only be
doing himself a favor by having it corrected, he'd be helping people
he doesn't even know who also use the product.

Demanding the OP tell Malwarebytes to ignore his files specifically
instead of having the actual issue corrected, IS A STUPID AND SELFISH
way of handling the issue. If you know for a fact you have clean
files that MBAM is hitting on, don't tell the damn program to just
ignore them, submit them so that the FALSE POSITIVES can be
corrected. As, it's most likely doing the same ****ing thing to
someone else. Everybody benefits this way. Including Malwarebytes;
they can free up room for definitions which are necessary.

Message-ID:
It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !
How should MBAM know you wrote something and that you are not a
threat?

Message-ID:
Message-ID:


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Diesel news:XnsA8E11795F8E6BHT1
@PAw3Rr6iVs1LZ0.7fRHk0V0 Sun, 13 May 2018 06:11:47 GMT in
alt.windows7.general, wrote:

aiole news Tue, 08 May 2018 16:58:14 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Just updated Malwarebytes to latest.

Malwarebytes is NOW MALWARE !

Erm.. No.

It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !

It's a false positive. Likely a bad definition is hitting on your
runtime. I'm assuming you're using an HLL based language?

There is only the Restore option.

There is no IGNORE ALWAYS option !

There used to be. Are you sure it's been removed?

What to do ?

Contact them, send samples of your programs when requested to do so
(yes, you'll need to do that in order for them to track down the
definition(s) responsible) so that it can be corrected in a later
definitions update.

Other than kill malwarebytes !

That's upto you.



Addendum:

From:

MID:

http://software-reviews.com/review?id=3

Overview

Malwarebytes Antimalware (MBAM) is a world-renowned antimalware
brand, and rightfully so. The software is stable and protects from
most types of malware circulating in the wild today. Scans are
quite fast and the interface is user-friendly. However, there are
a couple of issues that have prevented us from placing this
software at the top of our rating. Unfortunately, with the latest
MBAM version released, the number of user complaints grew
dramatically.

I added two additional newsgroups to my reply as I feel due to the
nature of the software being discussed, it's appropriate. It *does*
have a freeware version, so it's on topic for alt.comp.freeware as
well. And, why hide these wonderful detection stats from potential
and current users? [g]

Effectiveness

The program has its own criteria for detecting software as
potentially unwanted, and unfortunately those criteria appear to be
too broad now, as the program produced over a dozen false positives
in our tests. Getting the incorrect PUA detects added to exclusions
proved to be a challenge and did not work for a couple of programs at
all. Another thing we noticed was the fact that MBAM did not detect
quite a few older malware samples in our tests, which amounted to
about 40% of the malware the test system was infected with.
Regardless, it remains a very useful tool for malware removal.

A 60% detection rating isn't good. Especially for something that
boldly claims it can replace your Antivirus program, outright. I
suspect they'd fair even worse if tested using the same sample sets
various antivirus products are ran against. Those antivirus programs
manage to score themselves a consistent 100% rating, too.

It remains a semi useful tool for non resident scanning and removal
of potential malware. But, you'll have to babysit it in the sense
you'll have to double check it's reports before you let it take
action. Due to it's growing list of false positives. Evidently, one
or more researchers needs a crash course in how not to create
definitions...Alas, this is one of the things which happens when you
have non programmers playing the role of malware researcher.

Features

Malwarebytes offers the standard on-demand scanning functionality in
the free version, with advanced features, such as automatic scans and
real-time protection offered in the paid version. The software's
officially admitted feature is the fact that it does not scan for
malware that MBAM users haven't met in a while. So, for instance, if
a malicious program hasn't been detected via Malwarebytes scans in an
extended period of time, it will be removed from the databases and
the program will not scan for it anymore. It may help the scans go
faster, but makes some users, including us, a bit concerned.

An engine database end redesign would make that culling much much
less frequent, if necessary at all. You'd think when it was ported
from visual basic to C++, that would have been addressed. Someone
evidently mistakenly thought that porting it alone would address the
speed issue they were experiencing. Er, nope. Bad engine design in so
far as the database goes is the culprit. The longer it takes them to
reach that conclusion on their own, the more difficult it'll be to
take corrective action. Unless you think culling is a smart thing to
be doing.



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ditch it,,, Clam win picks up on that type of problem, but it gives
you an option to include it or not.
We never delete what is used and what we want in our machine.
Try the no virus thanks malware remover. It does not do that
what you have said. And leaves your machine pretty clean from malware.

On 5/8/2018 9:58 AM, aiole scribbled:
Just updated Malwarebytes to latest.

Malwarebytes is NOW MALWARE !

It keeps killing apps that I wrote.
They are NOT any kind of threat !


There is only the Restore option.

There is no IGNORE ALWAYS option !

What to do ?
Other than kill malwarebytes !