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Old July 13th 18, 05:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit


I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and
that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable
in todays OS's.

As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they
all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows
Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a
driver!!!

Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth
dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that
appears to work properly.

Is this a common occurence?
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Old July 13th 18, 07:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

pjp wrote:

I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and
that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable
in todays OS's.

As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they
all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows
Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a
driver!!!

Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth
dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that
appears to work properly.

Is this a common occurence?


Probably because the last driver provided by Creative (Microsoft doesn't
write the drivers, they just included them in later versions of Windows)
was a 32-bit driver. Unless Creative created a 64-bit driver, there
isn't one for Microsoft to bundle with a later version of Windows.
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Old July 13th 18, 08:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

pjp wrote:
I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and
that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable
in todays OS's.

As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they
all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows
Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a
driver!!!

Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth
dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that
appears to work properly.

Is this a common occurence?


Are these on the catalog server ?

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx

Paul
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Old July 13th 18, 09:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

In article , lid says...

pjp wrote:
I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and
that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable
in todays OS's.

As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they
all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows
Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a
driver!!!

Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth
dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that
appears to work properly.

Is this a common occurence?


Are these on the catalog server ?

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx

Paul


Appear to be, least Broadcom Bluetooth shows up as both 32 % 64 bit
versions. I'll try again as perhaps it was simply a network connection
issue. I have the driver to install 64 bit but hopefully it's not
needed.

Biggest issue is I have no bluetooth device to check it works, dongle
kinda just fell into lap so to speak.
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Old July 13th 18, 09:22 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

pjp wrote:
In article , lid says...
pjp wrote:
I have an old Creative Webcam Gen3. Under XP it required a driver and
that's the last one available. Driver is very old, basically unuasable
in todays OS's.

As a curiousity I plugged it into a couple of Win7 32 bit pcs and they
all saw the camera, downloaded a driver and it was seen as a Windows
Imaging Device and it worked. Under 64 bit Win7 it can't locate a
driver!!!

Same thing happened in last 24 hours, 64 bit Windows with a bluetooth
dongle and it's go looking yourself. 32 bit downloads a driver that
appears to work properly.

Is this a common occurence?

Are these on the catalog server ?

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx

Paul


Appear to be, least Broadcom Bluetooth shows up as both 32 % 64 bit
versions. I'll try again as perhaps it was simply a network connection
issue. I have the driver to install 64 bit but hopefully it's not
needed.

Biggest issue is I have no bluetooth device to check it works, dongle
kinda just fell into lap so to speak.


With two dongles, in theory you can do a piconet
(Internet Connection Sharing). When I did an experiment
here, I think I managed to get one or two ping packets
through two dongles, before the connection died. Windows 10
didn't seem to be prepared in any way, for a user to want
a Bluetooth piconet. The datarate would be about as fast
as one of the old dialup modems. Not exactly screaming fast.

Finding a Bluetooth peripheral, if you're not a Bluetooth
person, might well be more difficult. I couldn't find anything
here to buy, that didn't look like pure rubbish. So like
you, I can't test the "high runner case" (A2DP).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tooth_profiles

One of the problems I have with the stores here now,
is there's nothing in stock for an "impulse buy". It
looks like the stores, when they want to go bankrupt,
will have a "very small clearance sale". Even a year ago,
things looked a little bit better. Now all the stores just
want to run mail order outfits. Where is the service
differentiation ? If they want my business, how will
they demonstrate superior attributes to customers ?

Paul
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Old July 13th 18, 10:38 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

In message , pjp
writes:
[]
Biggest issue is I have no bluetooth device to check it works, dongle
kinda just fell into lap so to speak.


Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I
think, so might be usable to test your adapter.
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Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make!
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Old July 14th 18, 11:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 01:11:14 -0400, Paul wrote:
pjp wrote:
[quoted text muted]
Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I
think, so might be usable to test your adapter.


Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"?


The juxtaposition of phonemes ?

mobile phone
mobile fone
fobile moan

luaP


I was about to disagree with your "phonemes" comment, but realized I
had misread "fobile" a "foible". I very nearly made myself out to be
a mucking foron.

This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism.

https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism



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Old July 14th 18, 11:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 06:43:42 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism.

https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism


Although "fobile moan" and "mucking foron" might not qualify, come to
think of it. think the rule is that the new "words" formed must be
actual words. "Our queer old dean" is a common example, and the above
link gives "/Let me sew you to your sheet/ for /Let me show you to
your seat./"

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Old July 14th 18, 11:49 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

Stan Brown wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 01:11:14 -0400, Paul wrote:
pjp wrote:
[quoted text muted]
Do you have a fobile moan? They mostly have Bluetooth these days, I
think, so might be usable to test your adapter.
Never heard the term "fobile moan". It's "meaning"?

The juxtaposition of phonemes ?

mobile phone
mobile fone
fobile moan

luaP


I was about to disagree with your "phonemes" comment, but realized I
had misread "fobile" a "foible". I very nearly made myself out to be
a mucking foron.

This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism.

https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism


I also picked "phonemes" because the joke involved a "phone".

The "spoonerism" bit, completely slipped my faulty memory.
I've heard of the term before, but it didn't bubble
forth from the dim recesses when needed.

Paul


Paul
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Old July 14th 18, 01:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 06:43:42 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism.

https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism


Although "fobile moan" and "mucking foron" might not qualify, come to


It's probably less common in the US, where I understand the common term
is cellophane, or cell for short; in the UK, it's mobile 'phone, or
mobile for short. The term "foible" on its own (or, though even less so,
"moan") also has _some_ currency. [Incidentally, on a similar note: the
navigational aid that uses satellites, UK generally calls a "SatNav",
whereas I gather the US calls it a "GPS". Neither, strictly, being
technologically correct on their own but that's how the language
evolves. Like "microwave".]

think of it. think the rule is that the new "words" formed must be
actual words. "Our queer old dean" is a common example, and the above
link gives "/Let me sew you to your sheet/ for /Let me show you to
your seat./"

Though "I get my wicking MusD fuddled" has a definite appeal (-:. And
the full form of your "dean" one _does_ obey the rule - it's the loyal
toast: "Let's glaze Ruhr arses to the queer old dean".

Apparently, the reverend Sponger after whom they're named didn't
actually do the transpositions quite so rigorously as has become the
definition, perhaps announcing the hymn "Greenland's icy mountains" as
"Iceland's greasy mountains". But the name has stuck, and their use,
deliberate or (often better) accidental, will continue to provide much
amusement, I hope.

Now, for those with their head in their hands over this thread drift: I
hope, if the original poster is still with us, that s/he was able to use
a mobile/cell 'phone to test whether their Bluetooth adapter (or its
driver) was working. Though since it probably involves arcane settings
on the 'phone, borrowing a bomb from a nearby teenager - or an earpiece
(or possibly car!) from a nearby businessman - might be easier.
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Old July 14th 18, 02:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default New Device detection, 32 vs 64 bit

My spellchecker seems to have gone berserk on this one, sorry!


In message , "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
writes:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 06:43:42 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

This particular subgenre of phoneme switch is a Spoonerism.

https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/se...l?q=spoonerism


Although "fobile moan" and "mucking foron" might not qualify, come to


It's probably less common in the US, where I understand the common term
is cellophane, or cell for short; in the UK, it's mobile 'phone, or


cellphone!

mobile for short. The term "foible" on its own (or, though even less
so, "moan") also has _some_ currency. [Incidentally, on a similar note:
the navigational aid that uses satellites, UK generally calls a
"SatNav", whereas I gather the US calls it a "GPS". Neither, strictly,
being technologically correct on their own but that's how the language
evolves. Like "microwave".]

think of it. think the rule is that the new "words" formed must be
actual words. "Our queer old dean" is a common example, and the above
link gives "/Let me sew you to your sheet/ for /Let me show you to
your seat./"

Though "I get my wicking MusD fuddled" has a definite appeal (-:. And


wucking murds

the full form of your "dean" one _does_ obey the rule - it's the loyal
toast: "Let's glaze Ruhr arses to the queer old dean".


our-r!

Apparently, the reverend Sponger after whom they're named didn't


Spooner!

actually do the transpositions quite so rigorously as has become the
definition, perhaps announcing the hymn "Greenland's icy mountains" as
"Iceland's greasy mountains". But the name has stuck, and their use,
deliberate or (often better) accidental, will continue to provide much
amusement, I hope.

Now, for those with their head in their hands over this thread drift: I
hope, if the original poster is still with us, that s/he was able to
use a mobile/cell 'phone to test whether their Bluetooth adapter (or
its driver) was working. Though since it probably involves arcane
settings on the 'phone, borrowing a bomb from a nearby teenager - or an


boombox!

earpiece (or possibly car!) from a nearby businessman - might be
easier.



I've no idea why my spellchecker - if indeed it was that! - was so
imaginative on this post!
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harness it to do something. - Judi Dench, RT 2015/2/28-3/6
 




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