Not all hard disk manufacturers are created equal

Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3

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GNU/Linux is Communism

"However powerful and reliable Linux is, when it comes to user interaction
(Such as the desktop) it's like having a washing machine with 100's of
different wash cycles, the manual printed in Arabic and the sequence to
set the thing going has to be entered manually in precisely the right
order." - Desk Rabbit

On 1/21/2014 9:58 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3



I bought a Toshiba laptop in 2011 and the Hitachi HDD failed in about 3
months. Toshiba replaced the HDD under warranty. Then about 10 months
later when it was out of warranty the Hitachi HDD failed again.

I've had good luck with every Seagate that I've bought.

On 1/21/2014 7:36 PM, Ron wrote:
On 1/21/2014 9:58 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3




I bought a Toshiba laptop in 2011 and the Hitachi HDD failed in about 3
months. Toshiba replaced the HDD under warranty. Then about 10 months
later when it was out of warranty the Hitachi HDD failed again.

I've had good luck with every Seagate that I've bought.

2 160gig Seagate Barracuda's have been running in my machine nonstop for
close to 10 yrs now. I have had maxtor and WD and have had problems.
These drives have been filled, wiped, filled and wiped again over the
years.They are like a old Timex. Takes a lickin and keeps on tickin!!!

Drew wrote:

On 1/21/2014 7:36 PM, Ron wrote:
On 1/21/2014 9:58 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...ting-hard-driv
e-reliablity-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/#p3

I bought a Toshiba laptop in 2011 and the Hitachi HDD failed in about 3
months. Toshiba replaced the HDD under warranty. Then about 10 months
later when it was out of warranty the Hitachi HDD failed again.

I've had good luck with every Seagate that I've bought.

2 160gig Seagate Barracuda's have been running in my machine nonstop for
close to 10 yrs now. I have had maxtor and WD and have had problems.
These drives have been filled, wiped, filled and wiped again over the
years.They are like a old Timex. Takes a lickin and keeps on tickin!!!

I have about a dozen old Seagate IDE drives ranging from 4gb to 16gb, all
right about 13 years old, all working flawlessly... not that I use them any
more...

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That book, the one about the ****-weasels.

I only use Seagate hard drives after having western digital drives fail over
and over again over the years and in clients systems.
23 years 1,000 plus drives put in my clients systems and my own NO failures
to date.


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"Silver Slimer" wrote in message
news
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3

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Silver Slimer
GNU/Linux is Communism

"However powerful and reliable Linux is, when it comes to user interaction
(Such as the desktop) it's like having a washing machine with 100's of
different wash cycles, the manual printed in Arabic and the sequence to
set the thing going has to be entered manually in precisely the right
order." - Desk Rabbit

Silver Slimer wrote:
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3


qp
....none of this means that owners of Seagate drives should crack open
their PCs and rush to replace their drives. Backblaze notes that its
conditions are pretty hostile.
/qp

Useless article unless using consumer drives in a server environment. If
being done, then it would make more sense to replace the person who made
that decision if the drive fails when subjected to the same conditions
as the article's testing parameters.

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....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

seagate is the best drive for the money


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"Ron" wrote in message
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On 1/21/2014 9:58 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3



I bought a Toshiba laptop in 2011 and the Hitachi HDD failed in about 3
months. Toshiba replaced the HDD under warranty. Then about 10 months
later when it was out of warranty the Hitachi HDD failed again.

I've had good luck with every Seagate that I've bought.

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:36:15 -0500, Ron wrote:

On 1/21/2014 9:58 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3



I bought a Toshiba laptop in 2011 and the Hitachi HDD failed in about 3
months. Toshiba replaced the HDD under warranty. Then about 10 months
later when it was out of warranty the Hitachi HDD failed again.

I've had good luck with every Seagate that I've bought.

What a shocker that absolute facts would not resonate with the GNU/Linux
crowd. To your credit though, the Hitachi hard disk in my parents' 2009
Mac Mini died a month or two ago. It couldn't handle more than four years
of very light use. However, it is still four years whereas the experiment
tested three years worth of durability.
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Silver Slimer
GNU/Linux is Communism

"However powerful and reliable Linux is, when it comes to user interaction
(Such as the desktop) it's like having a washing machine with 100's of
different wash cycles, the manual printed in Arabic and the sequence to
set the thing going has to be entered manually in precisely the right
order." - Desk Rabbit

Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:

On 2014-01-22 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I only use Seagate hard drives after having western digital drives fail over
and over again over the years and in clients systems.
23 years 1,000 plus drives put in my clients systems and my own NO failures
to date.

Be careful of branded external drives, the vendors apparently buy the
cheapest components they can get. Of two supposedly identical 500GB
drives bought 3 years ago, one had a Seagate, the other a WD, which
failed around 18 months. The Seagate is still going strong.

Since I build/maintain many PC's on the job, I have a lot more
experience than most, and I buy only WD.

I gave up on Seagate *years* ago, but maybe they've gotten better
since then.

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Hahahahha. Whats that? A group of people who dont want to buy
anything????' - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark

On 01/22/2014 08:01 AM, chrisv wrote:



*plonk*

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:01:50 -0500, chrisv wrote:

Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:

On 2014-01-22 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I only use Seagate hard drives after having western digital drives
fail over
and over again over the years and in clients systems.
23 years 1,000 plus drives put in my clients systems and my own NO
failures
to date.

Be careful of branded external drives, the vendors apparently buy the
cheapest components they can get. Of two supposedly identical 500GB
drives bought 3 years ago, one had a Seagate, the other a WD, which
failed around 18 months. The Seagate is still going strong.

Since I build/maintain many PC's on the job, I have a lot more
experience than most, and I buy only WD.

I gave up on Seagate *years* ago, but maybe they've gotten better
since then.

I notice that Seagate hard disks usually always cost less than WD ones
with the same specifications. Usually, this is a sign that the cheaper
company is also cheaper when it comes to reliability. Either way, I would
avoid them considering what the article showed.
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Silver Slimer
GNU/Linux is Communism

"However powerful and reliable Linux is, when it comes to user interaction
(Such as the desktop) it's like having a washing machine with 100's of
different wash cycles, the manual printed in Arabic and the sequence to
set the thing going has to be entered manually in precisely the right
order." - Desk Rabbit

On 2014-01-22, Pneuma wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:58:42 -0500, "Silver Slimer" wrote:

Looks like buying a Seagate is asking for your data to be lost.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-are-equal/#p3

These are in a server environment and are four years old. Electronics and
hardware in these environments only last a few years. I'm sure the other
drives will have a high failure rate within one year.

The 1.5TB Seagate drives in particular are likely to be all the same
model (7200.11) that were a disaster. They aren't quite so bad now. So
the overall picture here is probably a bit out of date.

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It's only publishers who think that people own it." |||
~ John Lennon / | \

Per Silver Slimer:
I notice that Seagate hard disks usually always cost less than WD ones
with the same specifications. Usually, this is a sign that the cheaper
company is also cheaper when it comes to reliability. Either way, I would
avoid them considering what the article showed.

I came away from the web page with the notion that higher failure
rate/lower price made sense to the users in question because the overall
cost was lower.
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Pete Cresswell

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:17:25 -0500, Wolf Kirchmeir
wrote:

On 2014-01-22 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I only use Seagate hard drives after having western digital drives fail
over
and over again over the years and in clients systems.
23 years 1,000 plus drives put in my clients systems and my own NO
failures
to date.

Be careful of branded external drives, the vendors apparently buy the
cheapest components they can get. Of two supposedly identical 500GB
drives bought 3 years ago, one had a Seagate, the other a WD, which
failed around 18 months. The Seagate is still going strong.

If so many of you swear by Seagate, I have to question the results. The
hard disk which came with the laptop I'm using at the moment is a Seagate.
Since I don't trust the company that much, I pulled it out in favour of a
Kingston HyperX SSD and put it into a case to be used as an external HD.
To be honest, to this day it has yet to produce bad sectors and I'm
starting to wonder if I didn't act too hastily.
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Silver Slimer
GNU/Linux is Communism

"However powerful and reliable Linux is, when it comes to user interaction
(Such as the desktop) it's like having a washing machine with 100's of
different wash cycles, the manual printed in Arabic and the sequence to
set the thing going has to be entered manually in precisely the right
order." - Desk Rabbit

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:41:04 -0500
"Silver Slimer" wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:17:25 -0500, Wolf Kirchmeir
wrote:

On 2014-01-22 1:47 AM, Andy wrote:
I only use Seagate hard drives after having western digital drives
fail over
and over again over the years and in clients systems.
23 years 1,000 plus drives put in my clients systems and my own
NO failures
to date.

Be careful of branded external drives, the vendors apparently buy
the cheapest components they can get. Of two supposedly identical
500GB drives bought 3 years ago, one had a Seagate, the other a WD,
which failed around 18 months. The Seagate is still going strong.

If so many of you swear by Seagate, I have to question the results.
The hard disk which came with the laptop I'm using at the moment is a
Seagate. Since I don't trust the company that much, I pulled it out
in favour of a Kingston HyperX SSD and put it into a case to be used
as an external HD. To be honest, to this day it has yet to produce
bad sectors and I'm starting to wonder if I didn't act too hastily.

There are different categories of Seagate drives.
For example last month I have bought 2TB ST2000VN000 and that one
is suppose to have longer life than mainstream ones.
I think there are 3-4 categories.

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