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Old April 13th 12, 01:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

And I mean can they *run* XP.

I'm not asking if or which ones come with XP installed (obviously none
do any more).

I would guess that the list would include any tablets that are being
sold today with Windows 7 - because I don't think that any that come
with android or ios can be hacked to run XP natively (correct me if I'm
wrong about that).

I'd like to know if any windoze-7 tablet can run XP, and can work with
any USB mouse and keyboard.

My strategy would be to take out the hard drive, either keep the drive
or get a larger drive, slave the drive to a PC and format it as FAT-32,
make the drive bootable into win-98 DOS, copy an image of a Win-XP cd to
the drive, re-install the drive back into the tablet and turn it on, get
it to boot into DOS, and then start the XP install process. I'd keep
the drive formatted as FAT-32 so I could dual-boot into DOS/XP (which I
find very handy to do). I might make a small NTFS partition (for any
media files that would be more than 4 gb in size).
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Old April 13th 12, 01:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

From: "XP Guy"

Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

And I mean can they *run* XP.

I'm not asking if or which ones come with XP installed (obviously none
do any more).

I would guess that the list would include any tablets that are being
sold today with Windows 7 - because I don't think that any that come
with android or ios can be hacked to run XP natively (correct me if I'm
wrong about that).

I'd like to know if any windoze-7 tablet can run XP, and can work with
any USB mouse and keyboard.

My strategy would be to take out the hard drive, either keep the drive
or get a larger drive, slave the drive to a PC and format it as FAT-32,
make the drive bootable into win-98 DOS, copy an image of a Win-XP cd to
the drive, re-install the drive back into the tablet and turn it on, get
it to boot into DOS, and then start the XP install process. I'd keep
the drive formatted as FAT-32 so I could dual-boot into DOS/XP (which I
find very handy to do). I might make a small NTFS partition (for any
media files that would be more than 4 gb in size).


You would have to check the manufacturer's web site and see if the platform has driver's
for XP.


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Old April 13th 12, 03:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

XP Guy wrote:
Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

And I mean can they *run* XP.

I'm not asking if or which ones come with XP installed (obviously none
do any more).

I would guess that the list would include any tablets that are being
sold today with Windows 7 - because I don't think that any that come
with android or ios can be hacked to run XP natively (correct me if I'm
wrong about that).

I'd like to know if any windoze-7 tablet can run XP, and can work with
any USB mouse and keyboard.

My strategy would be to take out the hard drive, either keep the drive
or get a larger drive, slave the drive to a PC and format it as FAT-32,
make the drive bootable into win-98 DOS, copy an image of a Win-XP cd to
the drive, re-install the drive back into the tablet and turn it on, get
it to boot into DOS, and then start the XP install process. I'd keep
the drive formatted as FAT-32 so I could dual-boot into DOS/XP (which I
find very handy to do). I might make a small NTFS partition (for any
media files that would be more than 4 gb in size).


You could take a look through the flavors offered here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows...let_PC_Edition

Paul
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Old April 13th 12, 06:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

On 12/04/2012 8:21 PM, XP Guy wrote:
Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

And I mean can they *run* XP.

I'm not asking if or which ones come with XP installed (obviously none
do any more).

I would guess that the list would include any tablets that are being
sold today with Windows 7 - because I don't think that any that come
with android or ios can be hacked to run XP natively (correct me if I'm
wrong about that).

I'd like to know if any windoze-7 tablet can run XP, and can work with
any USB mouse and keyboard.

My strategy would be to take out the hard drive, either keep the drive
or get a larger drive, slave the drive to a PC and format it as FAT-32,
make the drive bootable into win-98 DOS, copy an image of a Win-XP cd to
the drive, re-install the drive back into the tablet and turn it on, get
it to boot into DOS, and then start the XP install process. I'd keep
the drive formatted as FAT-32 so I could dual-boot into DOS/XP (which I
find very handy to do). I might make a small NTFS partition (for any
media files that would be more than 4 gb in size).


I suppose you could always run XP in a virtual-XP machine under Windows
7, and presumably a similar virtual machine can run under Windows 8 when
it comes out. It won't be anything that's fast however.

Yousuf Khan
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Old April 13th 12, 08:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
Vic RR Garcia
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

On 04/13/12 01:56, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 12/04/2012 8:21 PM, XP Guy wrote:
Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

And I mean can they *run* XP.

I'm not asking if or which ones come with XP installed (obviously none
do any more).

I would guess that the list would include any tablets that are being
sold today with Windows 7 - because I don't think that any that come
with android or ios can be hacked to run XP natively (correct me if I'm
wrong about that).

I'd like to know if any windoze-7 tablet can run XP, and can work with
any USB mouse and keyboard.

My strategy would be to take out the hard drive, either keep the drive
or get a larger drive, slave the drive to a PC and format it as FAT-32,
make the drive bootable into win-98 DOS, copy an image of a Win-XP cd to
the drive, re-install the drive back into the tablet and turn it on, get
it to boot into DOS, and then start the XP install process. I'd keep
the drive formatted as FAT-32 so I could dual-boot into DOS/XP (which I
find very handy to do). I might make a small NTFS partition (for any
media files that would be more than 4 gb in size).


I suppose you could always run XP in a virtual-XP machine under Windows
7, and presumably a similar virtual machine can run under Windows 8 when
it comes out. It won't be anything that's fast however.

Yousuf Khan


Virtual machines in a TABLET PC ?????

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in that
tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.

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Old April 13th 12, 09:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

Vic RR Garcia VicGar007 at-gmail.dot.com wrote:

Yousuf Khan wrote:


I suppose you could always run XP in a virtual-XP machine under
Windows 7, and presumably a similar virtual machine can run
under Windows 8 when it comes out. It won't be anything that's
fast however.


Virtual machines in a TABLET PC ?????

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC. If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more
hours just to boot.


Are you sure about that?
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Old April 13th 12, 01:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

On 13/04/2012 3:50 AM, Vic RR Garcia wrote:
Virtual machines in a TABLET PC ?????

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in that
tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.


Well, it is a PC Tablet he's talking about here, not just some old ARM
tablet. The processors could be quite powerful in this one if you wanted
it to be. Plus there's virtualization support built into most x86
processors these days.

Yousuf Khan
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Old April 14th 12, 01:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

Yousuf Khan wrote:

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.


Well, it is a PC Tablet he's talking about here, not just some old
ARM tablet. The processors could be quite powerful in this one if
you wanted it to be. Plus there's virtualization support built
into most x86 processors these days.


My point was to run XP natively - not under some crazy-ass Win-8
virtualization.

And anything can run DOS - so long as it has a conventional PC BIOS -
which I have no idea if any current win-8 tablet has, and probably
neither does anyone here...
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Old April 14th 12, 03:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
Vic RR Garcia
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

On 04/13/12 20:22, XP Guy wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.


Well, it is a PC Tablet he's talking about here, not just some old
ARM tablet. The processors could be quite powerful in this one if
you wanted it to be. Plus there's virtualization support built
into most x86 processors these days.


My point was to run XP natively - not under some crazy-ass Win-8
virtualization.

And anything can run DOS - so long as it has a conventional PC BIOS -
which I have no idea if any current win-8 tablet has, and probably
neither does anyone here...


And that's the crux, no tablet has PC BIOS, or keyboard or Floppy, or
IDE disk.
Win98-DOS require those 3 devices to boot.

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Old April 14th 12, 03:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
Vic RR Garcia
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On 04/13/12 04:10, John Doe wrote:
Vic RR GarciaVicGar007 at-gmail.dot.com wrote:

Yousuf Khan wrote:


I suppose you could always run XP in a virtual-XP machine under
Windows 7, and presumably a similar virtual machine can run
under Windows 8 when it comes out. It won't be anything that's
fast however.


Virtual machines in a TABLET PC ?????

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC. If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more
hours just to boot.


Are you sure about that?


Yes, virtual-machines eats lots of CPU and Memory, none of those are
present in a Tablet-PC.

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Old April 14th 12, 03:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Vic RR Garcia wrote:

John Doe wrote:
Vic RR GarciaVicGar007 at-gmail.dot.com wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:


I suppose you could always run XP in a virtual-XP machine under
Windows 7, and presumably a similar virtual machine can run
under Windows 8 when it comes out. It won't be anything that's
fast however.


Virtual machines in a TABLET PC ?????

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC. If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more
hours just to boot.


Are you sure about that?


Yes, virtual-machines eats lots of CPU and Memory,


Yeah, but that process has been around for a very long time, and
hardware has improved exponentially.

Anyway... I wouldn't promote it in this situation, so that's
mostly curiosity.

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none of those are present in a Tablet-PC.



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Old April 14th 12, 03:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

On 04/13/12 08:22, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 13/04/2012 3:50 AM, Vic RR Garcia wrote:
Virtual machines in a TABLET PC ?????

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in that
tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.


Well, it is a PC Tablet he's talking about here, not just some old ARM
tablet. The processors could be quite powerful in this one if you wanted
it to be. Plus there's virtualization support built into most x86
processors these days.

Yousuf Khan


There is not that much difference between an ARM and a glorified Celeron
i5, none of then have the punch to run a virtual-machine, and do some
real work.

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Old April 14th 12, 04:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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Default Are there any tablet PC's that can run Windows XP?

On 13/04/2012 8:22 PM, XP Guy wrote:
My point was to run XP natively - not under some crazy-ass Win-8
virtualization.


Why would make a difference? It'll get the same job done.

And anything can run DOS - so long as it has a conventional PC BIOS -
which I have no idea if any current win-8 tablet has, and probably
neither does anyone here...


Well, all of those requirements would be emulated inside a
virtualization window.

Yousuf Khan
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Old April 14th 12, 12:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
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"Vic RR Garcia" wrote in message
ng.com...
On 04/13/12 20:22, XP Guy wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.

Well, it is a PC Tablet he's talking about here, not just some old
ARM tablet. The processors could be quite powerful in this one if
you wanted it to be. Plus there's virtualization support built
into most x86 processors these days.


My point was to run XP natively - not under some crazy-ass Win-8
virtualization.

And anything can run DOS - so long as it has a conventional PC BIOS -
which I have no idea if any current win-8 tablet has, and probably
neither does anyone here...


And that's the crux, no tablet has PC BIOS, or keyboard or Floppy, or
IDE disk.
Win98-DOS require those 3 devices to boot.


Actually if your machine supports booting from USB (which they basically
all do since 2003 or so) then DOS can boot from a flash, external hard
drive, etc. For example, I moved my Windows 98SE Startup disk to a flash
drive. And it runs well.

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Old April 14th 12, 01:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows-xp
Paul
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BillW50 wrote:
"Vic RR Garcia" wrote in message
ng.com...
On 04/13/12 20:22, XP Guy wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

That's about as crazy an idea as the OP running Win-98 DOS in
that tablet PC.
If you can get it working, it'll be 2 or more hours just to boot.
Well, it is a PC Tablet he's talking about here, not just some old
ARM tablet. The processors could be quite powerful in this one if
you wanted it to be. Plus there's virtualization support built
into most x86 processors these days.
My point was to run XP natively - not under some crazy-ass Win-8
virtualization.

And anything can run DOS - so long as it has a conventional PC BIOS -
which I have no idea if any current win-8 tablet has, and probably
neither does anyone here...

And that's the crux, no tablet has PC BIOS, or keyboard or Floppy, or
IDE disk.
Win98-DOS require those 3 devices to boot.


Actually if your machine supports booting from USB (which they basically
all do since 2003 or so) then DOS can boot from a flash, external hard
drive, etc. For example, I moved my Windows 98SE Startup disk to a flash
drive. And it runs well.


As I understand it, the reason it works, is DOS uses extended INT 0x13
calls, even when it's running. And by doing it that way, DOS is one
of the fortunate ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Int_13h

Other OSes use their own drivers, and pick the worst time to switch
over to using those drivers.

Paul
 




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