CCleaner Is Silently Updating Users Who Turned Off Automatic Updates

VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

I don't get how [GPDR] a problem for software authors.

It's a nuisance to them. It is a problem for the users. Authors have
to push a new version to be GDPR compliant.

Nope. They only have to inform the user if they were/are collecting
*personal* information (i.e. things like name, e-mail address, address,
phone number, age, sex, etc.,etc.). *If* they've been collecting such
information, it most likely includes the user's e-mail address, so they
can just send e-mail, no need for a new version of the software.

And that's exactly what's happening. I've received many such e-mails.

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For example, Microsoft, Avast, and many other software programs have
logistics collection sometimes called community reporting or some other
euphemism. It lets the authors know how their programs or services are
being used. Yep, you could opt-out but you were initially and covertly
opted in by default. GPDR doesn't stop authors/owners from adding even
more collection methods but it states the user must opt-in, not have to
sometime later upon discovery to opt-out.

The GPDR is about *personal* information, not about anonymous/
anonymized statistical/usage data.

Alas, GPDR does not require opt-in when the user has already consented.

Nonsense.

When you open an account at a site or establish any business or
interaction with a site, you're supposed to have already read their TOS
and privacy terms. Establishing a relationship means you grant them to
contact you, which opens the door to them spamming you. There's a whole
mess going on regarding spam and GPDR. Of course, that only affects EU
citizens since the US and other countries are not part of the EU.

Allowing a 'relation' to *contact* you is a seperate issue. It does
*not* mean that you've implicitly given consent to their past TOS, etc..
Actually the GDPR *mandates* that - as of May 25, 2018 - the relation
must explicitly ask *again* for any and all consent. And, as I've said
above, that's exactly what they're doing. Before and after May 25,
I/everybody got many, many of such requests-for-consent.

What's worse is sites that say, "Hi! Happy to see you...
as long as you agree to this thing that signs away your
rights."

Yep, their property (the web site), so they can dictate anything that
remains contractionally legal for them. GPDR only mandates the user be
informed although the information can be buried where most users cannot
find it or won't bother to look.

Nope, the information can *not* be "buried".

The GPDR does not ban any author (software or web) from collecting
information on you whether it be generic (they're not identifying you
but instead just collecting statistics) or specific. GPDR only requires
the user/visitor be informed. Silent or covert opt-in is not allowed by
GPDR.

Correct, so why do you say/imply otherwise in your earlier text?

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