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It was my belief that under Win7 one could put something on the
clipboard with ctrl-C, try to recover it with ctrl_V, only to get the previous item put on the clipboard not the item just ctrl-C'd. It seems the same is true of Win 10. Is it? |
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On 9/26/2018 12:33 PM, Peter Percival wrote:
It was my belief that under Win7 one could put something on the clipboard with ctrl-C, try to recover it with ctrl_V, only to get the previous item put on the clipboard not the item just ctrl-C'd. It seems the same is true of Win 10.Â* Is it? I've not experienced what you describe on any version of Windows, including Win10, *unless* I made an error in highlighting the "new" item that I want to copy. A "null selection" results in what you've seen. -- best regards, Neil |
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Peter Percival wrote:
It was my belief that under Win7 one could put something on the clipboard with ctrl-C, try to recover it with ctrl_V, only to get the previous item put on the clipboard not the item just ctrl-C'd. AFAIK that would only happen if what you were trying to 'copy' onto the clipboard was not, in fact, copyable. It seems the same is true of Win 10.Â* Is it? Win10 is no different, more likely to be the source app, or document (e.g a PDF with the copy protection bit set) |
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Peter Percival wrote:
It was my belief that under Win7 one could put something on the clipboard with ctrl-C, try to recover it with ctrl_V, only to get the previous item put on the clipboard not the item just ctrl-C'd. It seems the same is true of Win 10. Is it? The Windows Clipboard can only hold one clip at a time. Each time you copy, the existing clip gets overwritten with the new one. You need to use a 3rd party clipboard manager if you want to retain a history of clips. I use Thornsoft's Clipmate ($35 for 2-computer license). Originally I got it using their TrialPay scheme: agree to trial something and you got ClipMate for free (but make sure to choose a trial that is easy to cancel before it expires, so you don't end up paying for something else). They still have the TrialPay scheme to get their product for free (http://thornsoft.com/trialpay.htm). Thereafter the upgrades to new versions were about $20 each time (I've upgraded twice: once from v5 to v6 and then v6 to v7). ClipMagic used to be free and a close runner to Clipmate; however, it had a couple bugs and after they fixed them then the product soon afterward became payware. There are free clipboard manager but most are very basic. Of course, basic might be all you need. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Peter Percival wrote: It was my belief that under Win7 one could put something on the clipboard with ctrl-C, try to recover it with ctrl_V, only to get the previous item put on the clipboard not the item just ctrl-C'd. It seems the same is true of Win 10. Is it? The Windows Clipboard can only hold one clip at a time. Each time you copy, the existing clip gets overwritten with the new one. You need to use a 3rd party clipboard manager if you want to retain a history of clips. I use Thornsoft's Clipmate ($35 for 2-computer license). Originally I got it using their TrialPay scheme: agree to trial something and you got ClipMate for free (but make sure to choose a trial that is easy to cancel before it expires, so you don't end up paying for something else). They still have the TrialPay scheme to get their product for free (http://thornsoft.com/trialpay.htm). Thereafter the upgrades to new versions were about $20 each time (I've upgraded twice: once from v5 to v6 and then v6 to v7). ClipMagic used to be free and a close runner to Clipmate; however, it had a couple bugs and after they fixed them then the product soon afterward became payware. There are free clipboard manager but most are very basic. Of course, basic might be all you need. In addition, Clipmate (and probably other 3rd party clipboard managers) can make a sound when a clip gets saved. That way, you know you actually did save a clip. Just because you can highlight some text in some program doesn't mean you can clip it. With no feedback, you pressing Ctrl+C doesn't mean a clip got saved. In Windows, there is no sound event available for the WM_CLIPBOARDUPDATE event to let you assign a sound file to when the clipboard's contents get changed. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...xchg/clipboard Also, there are different types of clips: text, HTML, image, and probably more. You might've clipped an image or included one in a clip but then you try to paste the clip into something that cannot handle images, like clipping from an HTML web page and then try to clip the image into Notepad. Just because it looks like text in a web page doesn't it is text. You never mentioned from what you were trying to generate a clip and into where you attempted to paste it. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
The Windows Clipboard can only hold one clip at a time. I don't think the O/P is looking for multiple clipboard buffers, just wondering why a copy didn't overwrite what was already there? |
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😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
[...] Â* A few months ago you were trying to buy a pirated Windows 7 from eBay but it seems you now have Windows 10. You're confusing me with someone else. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Peter Percival wrote: It was my belief that under Win7 one could put something on the clipboard with ctrl-C, try to recover it with ctrl_V, only to get the previous item put on the clipboard not the item just ctrl-C'd. It seems the same is true of Win 10. Is it? The Windows Clipboard can only hold one clip at a time. Each time you copy, the existing clip gets overwritten with the new one. You need to use a 3rd party clipboard manager if you want to retain a history of clips. I use Thornsoft's Clipmate ($35 for 2-computer license). Originally I got it using their TrialPay scheme: agree to trial something and you got ClipMate for free (but make sure to choose a trial that is easy to cancel before it expires, so you don't end up paying for something else). They still have the TrialPay scheme to get their product for free (http://thornsoft.com/trialpay.htm). Thereafter the upgrades to new versions were about $20 each time (I've upgraded twice: once from v5 to v6 and then v6 to v7). ClipMagic used to be free and a close runner to Clipmate; however, it had a couple bugs and after they fixed them then the product soon afterward became payware. There are free clipboard manager but most are very basic. Of course, basic might be all you need. In addition, Clipmate (and probably other 3rd party clipboard managers) can make a sound when a clip gets saved. That way, you know you actually did save a clip. Just because you can highlight some text in some program doesn't mean you can clip it. With no feedback, you pressing Ctrl+C doesn't mean a clip got saved. In Windows, there is no sound event available for the WM_CLIPBOARDUPDATE event to let you assign a sound file to when the clipboard's contents get changed. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...xchg/clipboard Also, there are different types of clips: text, HTML, image, and probably more. You might've clipped an image or included one in a clip but then you try to paste the clip into something that cannot handle images, like clipping from an HTML web page and then try to clip the image into Notepad. Just because it looks like text in a web page doesn't it is text. You never mentioned from what you were trying to generate a clip and into where you attempted to paste it. Plain text to plain text. So I thought, but reading other replies it seems I am just mistaken. I blame anno Domini. |
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Andy Burns wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: The Windows Clipboard can only hold one clip at a time. I don't think the O/P is looking for multiple clipboard buffers, just wondering why a copy didn't overwrite what was already there? Addressed in my reply to my earlier reply. The OP might've highlighted something that looked like text but wasn't, and they tried to paste into a program that only accepts text type of clips. Also, some programs can disable clipping, so you hightlight something and use Ctrl+C thinking you created a clip but it never happened. 3rd party clipboard managers usually have sound events so, for example, you can tell when a clip actually got created in the clipboard. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
The OP might've highlighted something that looked like text but wasn't, and they tried to paste into a program that only accepts text type of clips. If the copy of non-text was successful, then the paste into a text-only program won't happen (due to incompatible formats) rather than the even earlier copied text being pasted instead. |
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Andy Burns wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: The OP might've highlighted something that looked like text but wasn't, and they tried to paste into a program that only accepts text type of clips. If the copy of non-text was successful, then the paste into a text-only program won't happen (due to incompatible formats) rather than the even earlier copied text being pasted instead. Correct. If the user expected Ctrl+C to add a new clip but Ctrl+V pastes in an old clip then the user never did add a new clip. I could not see how to enable a sound event onto the WM_CLIPBOARDUPDATE event when the clipboard's content changes using the provided sound config in Windows. That's why I mentioned using a 3rd party clipboard manager because many of those do have the option of making a sound when the clipboard's content changes. You have the option to get audible feedback letting you know a clip was generated when you thought you generated one. Besides a program not allowing access to the Windows clipboard, it could also reassign the Ctrl+C keyboard combination (to do nothing or to do something other than create a clip) either through remapping or using a driver to intercept the keyboard's scan codes or just disabling clipboard access while in the program. For example, some DRM'ed programs disable access to the clipboard to prevent stealing their content. No information WHERE Peter used Ctrl+C in trying to generate a clip. Windows 10 has extended the clipboard manager to add history. I wasn't aware of this but happened upon it now while checking how a process can disable access to the clipboard (within that process, not globally). Found: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html Adding a history improves the clipboard but just that addition doesn't surpass what I can get using a 3rd party clipboard manager. Too late, too little. Win+V is the default key combo to get at the clipboard history. Since I'm not giving up my 3rd party clipboard manager, I've previously and will continue to use Win+V with PureText. There are still too many time when I clip something that looks like text from one program only to get garbage when pasting into another program, and Puretext lets me paste only the plain-text content of a clip. So I use Ctrl+V to paste what is in the Windows clipboard in whatever format it was stored or use Win+V to paste only the plain-text content of the current clip. However, if I never had a 3rd party clipboard manager and didn't want something like PureText, the addition of Win+V to show clip history is handy. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: VanguardLH wrote: The Windows Clipboard can only hold one clip at a time. I don't think the O/P is looking for multiple clipboard buffers, just wondering why a copy didn't overwrite what was already there? Addressed in my reply to my earlier reply. The OP might've highlighted something that looked like text but wasn't, and they tried to paste into a program that only accepts text type of clips. No, plain text to plain text. Rarely do I copy-and-paste anything else. It seems I was just mistaken about having Ctrl-C'd. Brain damage, or summat! Also, some programs can disable clipping, so you hightlight something and use Ctrl+C thinking you created a clip but it never happened. 3rd party clipboard managers usually have sound events so, for example, you can tell when a clip actually got created in the clipboard. |
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