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WARNING! Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected.
On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus? It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone? The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) |
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote
| There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ | Redirects to d-h.st, owned by Jared Caliendo tech-name: Jared (STR52541AD6B8680) tech-street: 4850 Galendo St. tech-city: Woodland Hills tech-state: tech-zip: 91364 tech-country: US I'm not certain, but it looks like a page that's nothing more than a Google adsense ad. In other words, Mr. Caliendo seems to be trying to make a few dollars by buying near miss domains and redirecting visitors to an ad. But it's possible that it' more sneaky than that. The script is obfuscated. | Question 2) Can this be reported to someone? The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? | What you can do is stop enabling javascript willy nilly. Use something like NoScript and only allow script to run when necessary, and then only from specific domains that need to use it. I would never click something like that if I just had anti-virus or other "protection". The only protection is to disable script, Flash, Java, or anything else executable online. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 01:01:24 -0000, Mayayana wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote | There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ | Redirects to d-h.st, owned by Jared Caliendo tech-name: Jared (STR52541AD6B8680) tech-street: 4850 Galendo St. tech-city: Woodland Hills tech-state: tech-zip: 91364 tech-country: US His surname is rather similar to his street name. Probably faked. I used to have three domain names, all with fake names and addresses, mainly to stop people finding out my real life identity. I'm not certain, but it looks like a page that's nothing more than a Google adsense ad. In other words, Mr. Caliendo seems to be trying to make a few dollars by buying near miss domains and redirecting visitors to an ad. If it's Google adsense, you'd think Google would remove it after a complaint. But it's possible that it' more sneaky than that. The script is obfuscated. | Question 2) Can this be reported to someone? The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? | What you can do is stop enabling javascript willy nilly. Use something like NoScript and only allow script to run when necessary, and then only from specific domains that need to use it. I've never actually had anything nasty happen to my computer. I think between my browser, AV, firewall, adblockers, malware protection program, something always stops it. And usually such a site is only clicked on if you're daft enough to click a link in a dodgy email, which I don't. This was very unusual, in that my local council had misspelt something. I would never click something like that if I just had anti-virus or other "protection". The only protection is to disable script, Flash, Java, or anything else executable online. But don't loads of legitimate sites need those? I'd end up with constant pestering "do you want to enable Java" notices. Youtube uses Flash for example. Many pages use Flash. |
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote
| But don't loads of legitimate sites need those? I'd end up with constant pestering "do you want to enable Java" notices. Youtube uses Flash for example. Many pages use Flash. | Suit yourself. I've never needed Flash. I doubt youtube requires Flash. It's being phased out. Even Adobe, who make it, are phasing it out -- at the end of next year. 2015. 8 of the top ten online exploits used Flash: https://www.recordedfuture.com/top-v...bilities-2015/ 2016. 6 for Flash. 2 for IE. 1 Silverlight. 1 Windows: https://www.recordedfuture.com/top-v...bilities-2016/ Flash probably isn't exploited as much now, only because less people have it. Other big exploits are Wordpress hacks, jquery vulnerabilities, etc. Virtually all possible attacks require script. |
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wrote: I used to have three domain names, all with fake names and addresses, mainly to stop people finding out my real life identity. that's against the rules. if you want to hide your true identity, use a privacy service, which nearly all registrars offer. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 01:01:24 -0000, Mayayana wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote | There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ | Redirects to d-h.st, owned by Jared Caliendo tech-name: Jared (STR52541AD6B8680) tech-street: 4850 Galendo St. tech-city: Woodland Hills tech-state: tech-zip: 91364 tech-country: US Is it not possible to report it to whoever he bought the domain from? If I buy a domain name, I get it from a registrar. If I did naughty things on that site, surely the registrar could delete my account? |
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote
| Is it not possible to report it to whoever he bought the domain from? If I buy a domain name, I get it from a registrar. If I did naughty things on that site, surely the registrar could delete my account? | The registrar just keeps the records so that someone else can't use the same domain. Buying a domain name is really renting that process of being in the system, so that you can use AceAndAcme.com and no one else can. If you buy the domain name from someone that's a separate, private transaction. The second part of that would be the actual policing. You'd need evidence and some kind of authority willing to spend the time and money. Many times a domain owner is hard to trace. If you're attacked by a Russian- owned website, do you really think you can call the Russian police to clean it up? They've historically protected their malicious hackers. I suspect those hackers pay kickbacks to the gov't. In other words, you're not in Kansas anymore. That might work on social sites like Reddit. You can complain that someone called you fat, or ugly, or that they didn't properly use your chosen, non-gender-binary pronoun, and they might get banned. But it doesn't work that way on the Internet. Even aside from all that, you don't know for sure that the page is carrying out an attack. It might just be an ad. Google is certainly not going to be disturbed if someone sets up websites like saers.com or tagret.com and shows ads. Google's getting their money. Ads are not illegal. If you typed in tagret.com and saw an ad, that's not a crime. That's what we call being an entreprenuer. It's the most admired profession in America. And America is God's country. What are you, a commie atheist socialist? |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:54:57 -0000, Mayayana wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote | Is it not possible to report it to whoever he bought the domain from? If I buy a domain name, I get it from a registrar. If I did naughty things on that site, surely the registrar could delete my account? | The registrar just keeps the records so that someone else can't use the same domain. Buying a domain name is really renting that process of being in the system, so that you can use AceAndAcme.com and no one else can. If you buy the domain name from someone that's a separate, private transaction. The second part of that would be the actual policing. You'd need evidence and some kind of authority willing to spend the time and money. Many times a domain owner is hard to trace. If you're attacked by a Russian- owned website, do you really think you can call the Russian police to clean it up? They've historically protected their malicious hackers. I suspect those hackers pay kickbacks to the gov't. In other words, you're not in Kansas anymore. That might work on social sites like Reddit. You can complain that someone called you fat, or ugly, or that they didn't properly use your chosen, non-gender-binary pronoun, ROTFPMSL! and they might get banned. But it doesn't work that way on the Internet. Even aside from all that, you don't know for sure that the page is carrying out an attack. It might just be an ad. Google is certainly not going to be disturbed if someone sets up websites like saers.com or tagret.com and shows ads. Google's getting their money. If I ran Google, I'd not like the bad publicity of having my ads turning up where they shouldn't. Ads are not illegal. If you typed in tagret.com and saw an ad, that's not a crime. That's what we call being an entreprenuer. It's the most admired profession in America. And America is God's country. What are you, a commie atheist socialist? Atheist, yes. Not the other two! |
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On 18/03/2019 00.15, Commander Kinsey wrote:
WARNING!* Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected. On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus?* It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone?* The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) The first page is a PDF, not a web page; and looking at the properties it was generated on 2014. It is possible that the link is outdated and now points to somewhere else than intended, because of a typing error or no maintenance of the site. That second link displays nothing in my machine (Linux). But it does load something. Disabling the addblocker, it goes to http://mediadiscovery.net/, and just reads "Sponsored content". Disabling addblocker on on that, then I get a page full of adds, surely different than those you get. Possibly one of those adds you get triggered the blast (maybe from your antivirus?). I have heard that blast on a friend's laptop once, and scared me ****less. I must say that you guys on Windows get more fun that us poor lads on Linux :-P A reload of http://ww1.thethsitles.com/ displays content typical of a parked domain. Something about Albania and fraud protection. So what you should do is tell the people of https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/4425/9824-final-new-car-park-guide.pdf to correct the spelling - and if there is no spelling error, remove the link altogether, as the parking lot "The Thistles" doesn't own the link they point people to, it has been parked (http://www.thethsitles.com/). Or whatever the correct wording in English is :-) -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:26:19 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 18/03/2019 00.15, Commander Kinsey wrote: WARNING! Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected. On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus? It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone? The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) The first page is a PDF, not a web page Technically yes, but the PDF is displayed in my browser and has links to click just like a webpage. and looking at the properties it was generated on 2014. It is possible that the link is outdated and now points to somewhere else than intended, because of a typing error or no maintenance of the site. It must be a typing error, it would never have been spelt thsitle. Anyway hopefully they will update it now I've warned them. I'm surprised nobody else came across it before, parking in Stirling is so bad you have to research first! Even if you pay, hardly anywhere allows more than a 2 hour stay. That second link displays nothing in my machine (Linux). But it does load something. You mean http://www.thethistles.com/ ? It should redirect to https://www.thistlesstirling.com Disabling the addblocker, it goes to http://mediadiscovery.net/, and just reads "Sponsored content". Disabling addblocker on on that, then I get a page full of adds, surely different than those you get. I have a couple of adblockers and see no ads there at all. Just a page about the shopping centre with moving graphics saying what they sell. Or did you mean the dodgy link? I got a loud bleep, and a dialog box saying click to update, your windows is out of date and you have a nasty virus or something. I closed it before reading it fully! Possibly one of those adds you get triggered the blast (maybe from your antivirus?). I have heard that blast on a friend's laptop once, and scared me ****less. I must say that you guys on Windows get more fun that us poor lads on Linux :-P I've never had a bleep like that before. It sounds like the BBC2 test signal. A reload of http://ww1.thethsitles.com/ displays content typical of a parked domain. Something about Albania and fraud protection. So what you should do is tell the people of https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/4425/9824-final-new-car-park-guide.pdf to correct the spelling - and if there is no spelling error, remove the link altogether, as the parking lot "The Thistles" doesn't own the link they point people to, it has been parked (http://www.thethsitles.com/). Or whatever the correct wording in English is :-) A parked parking lot :-) |
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On 18/03/2019 13.40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:26:19 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote: On 18/03/2019 00.15, Commander Kinsey wrote: WARNING!* Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected. On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus?* It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone?* The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) The first page is a PDF, not a web page Technically yes, but the PDF is displayed in my browser and has links to click just like a webpage. Depends on the local configuration - in my machine it doesn't :-) and looking at the properties it was generated on 2014. It is possible that the link is outdated and now points to somewhere else than intended, because of a typing error or no maintenance of the site. It must be a typing error, it would never have been spelt thsitle. Anyway hopefully they will update it now I've warned them.* I'm surprised nobody else came across it before, parking in Stirling is so bad you have to research first!* Even if you pay, hardly anywhere allows more than a 2 hour stay. Wow. I have never seen something like that here - well, thinking, there have been days in Madrid that I was not able to go to the place I wanted at all, no parking or collapsed roads. Popular events. I have not heard of reserving in advance a parking slot, but maybe possible. That second link displays nothing in my machine (Linux). But it does load something. You mean http://www.thethistles.com/ ?* It should redirect to https://www.thistlesstirling.com I mean http://www.thethsitles.com/ Disabling the addblocker, it goes to http://mediadiscovery.net/, and just reads "Sponsored content". Disabling addblocker on on that, then I get a page full of adds, surely different than those you get. I have a couple of adblockers and see no ads there at all.* Just a page about the shopping centre with moving graphics saying what they sell. Or did you mean the dodgy link?* Yes. I got a loud bleep, and a dialog box saying click to update, your windows is out of date and you have a nasty virus or something.* I closed it before reading it fully! I have seen that on somebody else's computer. I think it was an unfiltered advert. And clicking there would be dangerous. Possibly one of those adds you get triggered the blast (maybe from your antivirus?). I have heard that blast on a friend's laptop once, and scared me ****less. I must say that you guys on Windows get more fun that us poor lads on Linux :-P I've never had a bleep like that before.* It sounds like the BBC2 test signal. Yep. I jumped off the sofa when I heard that. The other person was accustomed to it and just clicked away. A reload of http://ww1.thethsitles.com/ displays content typical of a parked domain. Something about Albania and fraud protection. So what you should do is tell the people of https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/4425/9824-final-new-car-park-guide.pdf to correct the spelling - and if there is no spelling error, remove the link altogether, as the parking lot "The Thistles" doesn't own the link they point people to, it has been parked (http://www.thethsitles.com/). Or whatever the correct wording in English is :-) A parked parking lot :-) :-D -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:08:57 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 18/03/2019 13.40, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:26:19 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote: On 18/03/2019 00.15, Commander Kinsey wrote: WARNING! Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected. On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus? It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone? The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) The first page is a PDF, not a web page Technically yes, but the PDF is displayed in my browser and has links to click just like a webpage. Depends on the local configuration - in my machine it doesn't :-) I don't like pointless opening of new programs and windows. If I'm viewing some tourist info in a PDF, I'd rather it was just like another web page. and looking at the properties it was generated on 2014. It is possible that the link is outdated and now points to somewhere else than intended, because of a typing error or no maintenance of the site. It must be a typing error, it would never have been spelt thsitle. Anyway hopefully they will update it now I've warned them. I'm surprised nobody else came across it before, parking in Stirling is so bad you have to research first! Even if you pay, hardly anywhere allows more than a 2 hour stay. Wow. I have never seen something like that here - well, thinking, there have been days in Madrid that I was not able to go to the place I wanted at all, no parking or collapsed roads. Popular events. I have not heard of reserving in advance a parking slot, but maybe possible. The UK is vastly overpopulated. The large cities like Edinburgh and London are ridiculous, they've actually banned cars altogether in a lot of places, contrary to the wishes of all the high street shops which have lost most of their business due to government cluelessness. That second link displays nothing in my machine (Linux). But it does load something. You mean http://www.thethistles.com/ ? It should redirect to https://www.thistlesstirling.com I mean http://www.thethsitles.com/ I wasn't sure if you started counting at the PDF link or the links from the PDF :-) Disabling the addblocker, it goes to http://mediadiscovery.net/, and just reads "Sponsored content". Disabling addblocker on on that, then I get a page full of adds, surely different than those you get. I have a couple of adblockers and see no ads there at all. Just a page about the shopping centre with moving graphics saying what they sell. Or did you mean the dodgy link? Yes. I got a loud bleep, and a dialog box saying click to update, your windows is out of date and you have a nasty virus or something. I closed it before reading it fully! I have seen that on somebody else's computer. I think it was an unfiltered advert. And clicking there would be dangerous. I did not click, and I would like to think Opera would never load anything without a click. Also AVG does block dodgy sites. Possibly one of those adds you get triggered the blast (maybe from your antivirus?). I have heard that blast on a friend's laptop once, and scared me ****less. I must say that you guys on Windows get more fun that us poor lads on Linux :-P I've never had a bleep like that before. It sounds like the BBC2 test signal. Yep. I jumped off the sofa when I heard that. The other person was accustomed to it and just clicked away. Try them with one of those scary monster pages that growls and jumps about when you're watching closely. Youtube is full of folk falling off their chairs. |
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 18/03/2019 13.40, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:26:19 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote: On 18/03/2019 00.15, Commander Kinsey wrote: WARNING!Â* Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected. On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus?Â* It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone?Â* The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) The first page is a PDF, not a web page Technically yes, but the PDF is displayed in my browser and has links to click just like a webpage. Depends on the local configuration - in my machine it doesn't :-) and looking at the properties it was generated on 2014. It is possible that the link is outdated and now points to somewhere else than intended, because of a typing error or no maintenance of the site. It must be a typing error, it would never have been spelt thsitle. Anyway hopefully they will update it now I've warned them.Â* I'm surprised nobody else came across it before, parking in Stirling is so bad you have to research first!Â* Even if you pay, hardly anywhere allows more than a 2 hour stay. Wow. I have never seen something like that here To be fair there's not a lot to do in Stirling so 2 hours is plenty There is the rather magnificent Stirling Castle, nearby, and there's plenty of parking. Some of it free IIRC https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_Castle |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 08:36:47 -0000, Chris wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: On 18/03/2019 13.40, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:26:19 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote: On 18/03/2019 00.15, Commander Kinsey wrote: WARNING! Do not click the misspelt link below (between asterisks) unless you know your computer is protected. On Stirling Council's parking page https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/442...park-guide.pdf There is a link to the thistle centre car park, which they have misspelt as **** http://www.thethsitles.com/ **** instead of http://www.thethistles.com/ Question 1) Is this a virus? It just bleeps very loudly through the speakers and asks me to click to update something. Question 2) Can this be reported to someone? The company they rent the domain name from perhaps? (I've already advised Stirling Council to correct their spelling error) The first page is a PDF, not a web page Technically yes, but the PDF is displayed in my browser and has links to click just like a webpage. Depends on the local configuration - in my machine it doesn't :-) and looking at the properties it was generated on 2014. It is possible that the link is outdated and now points to somewhere else than intended, because of a typing error or no maintenance of the site. It must be a typing error, it would never have been spelt thsitle. Anyway hopefully they will update it now I've warned them. I'm surprised nobody else came across it before, parking in Stirling is so bad you have to research first! Even if you pay, hardly anywhere allows more than a 2 hour stay. Wow. I have never seen something like that here To be fair there's not a lot to do in Stirling so 2 hours is plenty There is the rather magnificent Stirling Castle, nearby, and there's plenty of parking. Some of it free IIRC https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_Castle I'm doing jury duty (which could be for the whole day), and has no car park. Everything should have a car park and not expect you to find somewhere else! |
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:26:19 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote: Possibly one of those adds you get triggered the blast (maybe from your antivirus?). I have heard that blast on a friend's laptop once, and scared me ****less. I must say that you guys on Windows get more fun that us poor lads on Linux :-P I've never had a bleep like that before. It sounds like the BBC2 test signal. History of computing comes to mind... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_speaker If the sound system is down (driver is not working), OSes are allowed to use "PCBeep". PCBeep is considered to be the "backup notification system". If the sound card goes missing, software is allowed to abuse that. That is the BIOS "beep" that is used during POST. The 8254 generates a square wave. Programmers can program the 8254. The frequency can be changed, by changing the preload constant on the 8254. A sound you don't hear too often from your PC, is the BIOS "European donkey siren" noise which is made when the CPU overheats. That sound is made by reprogramming the 8254 every half a second or so. The BIOS beeper/speaker has also been tied in the past, to games. The motherboard speaker can be used as a 1-bit DAC, and game soundtracks can be played through it. (A certain era of Macintosh gaming did this too, and there were probably 200 games that did the 1-bit DAC thing... The fidelity is surprisingly good. 1-bit DACs have also been used in expensive stereo equipment, in case you thought that nobody would dare try that :-) To make that work, just crank up the clock rate, and the 1 bit DAC does a damn good job. The DAC needs to be followed by a reconstruction filter, which is what makes it work.) Sound cards came along later, and were largely optional at first. Too expensive for the average computer buyer to be tucking into the machine. Some sound chips, I believe they have a mono "PCBEEP" input on the side, for tying the motherboard signal into the sound chip. This allows using the computer stereo speakers, to make the PCBeep noise. In this simply horrible little picture, "PCBeep" logic input on the sound chip, is next to the STEREO ADC block. You can see the sigma symbol, which means PCBeep is wired-OR with the regular sound channel. The PCBeep is basically "summed" with the BeeGees Greatest Hits you're listening to :-) Note that most sound implementations do not bother using that pin any more, because the motherboard has the PC Speaker or a piezo coin-shaped device onboard to make the sound instead. The computer is filled with "legacy support crap" which continues to exist, wastes a pin, but nobody dare get rid of it. https://www.mouser.com/images/micros...00_blkdia1.png In the past, we used to tie the entry of ctrl-G into a terminal (the "BELL" character), to the PC beep, If you wrote code, and put a control-G in your printf, the computer would obediently beep. If you did I/O to /dev/audio, then a sound would come out of the sound subsystem speaker (a different speaker or speakers). That's also the reason, that if you cat'ted a binary file by accident to the terminal, the terminal would beep seemingly randomly, because some of the binary values were the control-G BELL character. So in addition to crap and "squares" on the terminal textual output, some of the symbols processed would cause a PCBeep event. Paul |
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