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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails?
Paul wrote:
[...] https://superuser.com/questions/1550...age-thumbnails "Unless you have very special server support, you can't generate the thumbnails or edit the files without first downloading them. FTP doesn't allow you to do this as part of the protocol. " Presenting the information in a "pretty" way, is why we have web servers. So at least in this "remote" interface case, we need the server side to support these ideas, rather than the client side. The client side is not allowed to do anything which is "not scalable". As that thread above discusses, if the client has to download the entire site to generate thumbnails for everything, that isn't a scalable idea. And it defeats the purpose of using thumbnails, if it forces "downloading everything in sight". However, if the server side is actually an HTTP server, that allows a more intelligent server presentation. But it would also ruin client integration on the client side. This brings me to a - rather far-fetched - suggestion for 'Roy': Try if a switch from FTP server/client to WebDAV server/client can solve this thumbnails 'problem'. - (For example) On Android: "WebDAV Server" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver - Ideally, you create a Network Drive on the Windows side ('Map network drive' in File Explorer) with something like this in the 'Folder:' field: http://192.168.0.124:8080 (WebDAV Server will tell you the IP address and port number for your situation.) I could not get this to work (Windows could not find the WebDAV server), so I tried an alternative (to 'Map network drive'): 'NetDrive', free for 1 Network Drive, http://www.netdrive.net/. - With NetDrive, I could map Network Drive S: to URL http://192.168.0.124 and Port 8080 and do a Connect. That showed the content of the phone's SD card as Windows drive S:. N.B. NetDrive is not the final solution, but is just used for this proof-of-concept (because 'Map network drive' didn.t work (for me)). Hope this helps. |
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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android toshow photo thumbnails?
On 8/2/2017 9:16 PM, Roy Tremblay wrote:
It may be impossible, but in case it's possible, does anyone here know how to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails? https://s3.postimg.org/9xifx4mgz/android_icons.jpg When I open the Windows File Explorer to the FTP URI on my Android phone over the LAN, I can browse the entire file system of Android from / onward, but there are no thumbnails viewed. On Android, when I browse the file system, there are thumbnails, so, Android thumbnails must be done differently than Windows thumbnails. Any idea if it's possible to generate Windows-like thumbnails on Android so that when we browse the Android file system from Windows, we can see thumbnails instead of just file names? https://s3.postimg.org/9xifx4mgz/android_icons.jpg I don't access my Nexus from Windows via Wi-Fi but, over USB, thumbnails show just fine just as if the files in DCIM were local. The thumbnails on Windows don't depend on what is on the other end -- I can just a readily see thumbnail from my Drobo or Notebook which are both Linux-based devices using Windows Explorer. Again, I'm not using Wi-Fi for those either, both being on the wired gigabit network. I can't imagine why Wi-Fi would act differently than USB or Ethernet. Can you just connect the phone to the Windows machine via USB one time to see if it acts differently? |
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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails?
"Roy Tremblay" wrote
| Exactly what I was asking for! | Does such an Android-to-Windows .thumbnail conversion exist? You might try posting one of the files. If it's some kind of cache library it might not work, but if each thumbnail is a separate file then the extension might just be a cutesy way to label a small JPG. |
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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails?
Big Al actually wrote:
And that's the point. Once on Windows, Windows takes over and does the right job. As you copied, it was probably making thumbnails as it went, that or when you opened the folder. We completely understand each other, which I summarize as three things: 1. Photos on Android are viewed by Android the "Android .thumbnail way" 2. Photos on Windows are viewed on Windows the "Windows .thumbnail way" 3. When you mix one with the other, you no longer see thumbnails. I got that. That was the original question. How to change that. I don't really need Android to view Windows .thumbnails, but the hope is that someone knows of a way for Windows to make use of Android .thumbnails. |
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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails?
Andy Burns actually wrote:
When explorer is displaying the contents of a windows folder, there's an expectation that anything else updating the contents of the folder will update the thumbnails cache file. But if it's an FTP location, it could be updated by a non-windows system, so there's no guarantee that a thumbnail file would even exist, or be up to date, so rather than downloading every image to generate the thumbnails, it's easiest to not bother. I think we agree completely that Android does .thumbnails the "Android way" while Windows does .thumbnails the "Windows way". Hence, when Android is viewing Windows files over the LAN, it won't understand the Windows .thumbnail way, and more to the point, when Windows is viewing Android files over the LAN, Windows won't understand the "Android way" - and - worse - the FTP protocol has no way of "sending over" the Android way to Windows anyway. So, I think, as stated in the first line of the OP: "It may be impossible, but in case it's possible, does anyone here know how to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails?" I admit I don't really understand the Android .thumnail way nor do I understand the Windows .thumbnail way, so I'm not a guy who can solve this. Even worse, I *tried* a few times to copy and move the Android .thumbnails directory over to Windows and vice versa, and now my Android phone will take pictures, but no thumnails show up! Serves me right for experimenting! Luckily, I can factory reset the phone, but the takeaway is this: 1. I don't think anyone has ever asked this question anywhere before. 2. I don't think anyone understands the "Android .thumbnail way". 3. But even so, it's impossible. |
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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android toshow photo thumbnails?
On 2017-08-03 13:19, Roy Tremblay wrote:
Andy Burns actually wrote: does anyone here know how to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails? It's not an Android issue, it's a Windows issue ... When you browse *any* FTP server from Windows Explorer you don't get thumbnails, just an icon for the file extension, no preview pane either and fairly minimal info in the details pane, it's just the way it is. Thanks for explaining that the lack of ability to see Android thumbnails on Windows File Explorer is an FTP-protocol issue. No, it is not an FTP-protocol issue at all. It is a Windows Explorer issue. Windows explorer may not know that it is looking at an Android folder, nor that there is a thumbnails info already there. It wants to use its own format of thumbnails, as does any other software. Yesterday I was looking at photos in my phone via FTP, using several Linux file explorers. And they did display thumbnails just fine, but they had to be generated, meaning that they had to download all the photos. I simply had to enable a setting on each file browser telling to show thumbnails on remote filesystems, and to limit the size of the file for which this would be done to a reasonable value (if photo is bigger, it doesn't generate the thumbnail). Possibly Windows Explorer has a similar setting somewhere. Note that it is possible that any file explorer doing this may store the thumbnail information as another folder in the phone, using more space. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android to show photo thumbnails?
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:33:30 +0000 (UTC), Roy Tremblay
wrote: Big Al actually wrote: And that's the point. Once on Windows, Windows takes over and does the right job. As you copied, it was probably making thumbnails as it went, that or when you opened the folder. We completely understand each other, which I summarize as three things: 1. Photos on Android are viewed by Android the "Android .thumbnail way" 2. Photos on Windows are viewed on Windows the "Windows .thumbnail way" 3. When you mix one with the other, you no longer see thumbnails. I got that. That was the original question. How to change that. I don't really need Android to view Windows .thumbnails, but the hope is that someone knows of a way for Windows to make use of Android .thumbnails. Have you tried Teamviewer? |
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