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A new account from nowhere?
Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird
newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! I did not set this up nor did anything to bring it up, It just appeared out of nowhere. I tested it and it seems to be Functional. I will now switch to it and send a test message to this newsgroup. This is very strange indeed, Any Ideas? Rene |
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A new account from nowhere?
On 03/01/2019 2:23 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! I did not set this up nor did anything to bring it up, It just appeared out of nowhere. I tested it and it seems to be Functional. I will now switch to it and send a test message to this newsgroup. This is very strange indeed, Any Ideas? Rene OK, I just tried to send a post using this new account and got a text message box stating that that account does not accept newsgroups but only e-mails. So it's got me puzzled, as it is listed at the bottom of my newsgroup accounts. Rene |
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A new account from nowhere?
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! I did not set this up nor did anything to bring it up, It just appeared out of nowhere. I tested it and it seems to be Functional. I will now switch to it and send a test message to this newsgroup. This is very strange indeed, Any Ideas? Rene Thunderbird has context sensitive behavior and a set of honored URIs (not URLs, it's a different thing). As a result of this, if you feed it a URI, it can even do neat things like set up accounts. And if you were using a free news server, the account setup might actually work. Whereas for username/password protected accounts, it might make a mess (it will do the preliminaries, but not get the details right). In terms of email account setup, Mozilla+staff have tried to automate setup of well-known email addresses. Again, making some guesses or inserting their own preferences for connect method. Which might include encrypted incoming and outgoing port types. So while I'm not up on the details as to how you achieved this specific plum, the capabilities are in there. It's wired for monkey business... ******* When you get the Thunderbird error "You cannot send to two servers at once" this was an architecture design mistake in the newsreader code. The fix is like this. If you're sending to these groups alt.comp.os.windows-10 comp.sys.acorn you change the syntax so it reads like this. You set all the groupnames in the crosspost, to the *same* server. This is an alternate supported syntax for TB newsgroup names. news.eternal-september.org/alt.comp.os.windows-10 news.eternal-september.org/comp.sys.acorn On transmission, Thunderbird says "I see what you did there" and it changes the message header before transmission back to alt.comp.os.windows-10 comp.sys.acorn but sends the message out through "news.eternal-september.org" as instructed. What that does, is prevents it from examining all newsserver newsgroup lists and randomly trying to send the message to multiple servers at the same time. So the news.eternal-september.org/alt.comp.os.windows-10 is an example of a URI. There are a total of four formats for newsgroup headers, and that's the second format. Thunderbird might also attempt to use a MID from the command line. Maybe you could do something like this. thunderbird alt.burp thunderbird then see what a mess it made, or what the reaction was. The first might attempt to add an alt.burp subscription to one of your newsservers. In the past, this lead to users "unintentionally" adding "fragments" to Thunderbird. This happened enough, not only did Thunderbird have certain magical URI formats, it also needed the addition of "fragment filters" so that obvious too-short garbage entries would automatically be prevented from being added to accounts, and scaring the crap out of people. So when your default email client is Thunderbird, you right click, copy something perhaps, it may be possible to cause the OS to use COM to send what looks like a URI to Thunderbird as your preferred agent. And then Thunderbird says to itself "Oh, he wants to add some netfront.net acct". And then the automation runs amok, the string is longer than a fragment, and so on. The account setup pre-baked table may have an entry for the freenews variant. If you download the source tarball for Thunderbird, you might pick some of this stuff up. When I used to get the "send to two servers" error, that ****ed me off enough, I started reading source code. And that's where I figured out the fix for my "problem". At one time, they didn't monkey with the newsreader code in there. It was as if "no developer wanted to touch it" (the code for newsreading, was imported from Netscape Communicator). But their reserved nature has changed over the years, and that code is likely entirely different now (since more asynchronous behaviors are in the code and it behaves like a nutbar inside). Best guess, Paul |
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A new account from nowhere?
On 01/03/2019 20:23, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
This is very strange indeed, Any Ideas? Yes we do have many ideas here. For example, because of your advanced age, you must have clicked on a link such as this: Old Nutter can Click this news://freenews.netfront.net/alt.comp.os.windows-10 This works alright here after subscribing to various newsgroups. -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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A new account from nowhere?
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! maybe you clicked on a URL like nntp://freenews.netfront.net/some.or.other.group |
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On 03/01/2019 3:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! maybe you clicked on a URL like nntp://freenews.netfront.net/some.or.other.group No, I am very cautious about what I click on, I always check and make sure I know what I an choosing for a purpose. I guess I will just delete it for it serves no purpose. Rene |
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A new account from nowhere?
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Rene Lamontagne ... Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! I did not set this up nor did anything to bring it up, It just appeared out of nowhere. I tested it and it seems to be Functional. I will now switch to it and send a test message to this newsgroup. This is very strange indeed, Any Ideas? Your test post was NOT sent through Freenews. It was sent using individual.net as proven by the injection node in the Path header. From what I found online, freenews.netfront.net (in Hong Kong) might be a read-only server. However, when I use a telnet session to check, "telnet freenews.netfront.net 119" reports back a status of "200 news.netfront.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.6 (20090602 snapshot) ready (posting ok)." Their status says posting is okay (allowed). _They spamify posts sent through their server(s)_ Their NNTP server spamifies posts through it by append a fake signature block of "--- news://freenews.netfront.net/". 3 dashes, space, and a bunch of following text is not a valid sigblock delimiter, and they know that. They don't want their spam hidden from users that configure their NNTP clients to hide signatures (which are rarely on-topic, often ego-stroking fluff, or spam). A valid sig delimiter line is 2 dashes, space, and a newline (the sig starts on the NEXT line). As such, anyone using Netfront chooses to be their spam affiliate, and should get filtered out along with other spammers. Who else has physical access to your computer? Who else shares this same computer? Did you configure Windows to bypass the login screen by using auto-login, so anyone can log into your Windows account on that computer? |
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A new account from nowhere?
On 03/01/2019 5:48 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Rene Lamontagne ... Suddenly from nowhere a new account has shown up in my Thunderbird newsreader called Freenews.netfront.net!!!!! I did not set this up nor did anything to bring it up, It just appeared out of nowhere. I tested it and it seems to be Functional. I will now switch to it and send a test message to this newsgroup. This is very strange indeed, Any Ideas? Your test post was NOT sent through Freenews. It was sent using individual.net as proven by the injection node in the Path header. From what I found online, freenews.netfront.net (in Hong Kong) might be a read-only server. However, when I use a telnet session to check, "telnet freenews.netfront.net 119" reports back a status of "200 news.netfront.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.6 (20090602 snapshot) ready (posting ok)." Their status says posting is okay (allowed). _They spamify posts sent through their server(s)_ Their NNTP server spamifies posts through it by append a fake signature block of "--- news://freenews.netfront.net/". 3 dashes, space, and a bunch of following text is not a valid sigblock delimiter, and they know that. They don't want their spam hidden from users that configure their NNTP clients to hide signatures (which are rarely on-topic, often ego-stroking fluff, or spam). A valid sig delimiter line is 2 dashes, space, and a newline (the sig starts on the NEXT line). As such, anyone using Netfront chooses to be their spam affiliate, and should get filtered out along with other spammers. Who else has physical access to your computer? Who else shares this same computer? Did you configure Windows to bypass the login screen by using auto-login, so anyone can log into your Windows account on that computer? Thanks for the research you did on this VanguardLH. I am the sole user of this machine and no one else can access or use it. I live alone in an apartment and do not have friends using the system. So not knowing how it actually got there I deleted the account, so one less problem. Thanks, Rene |
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