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Excellent article about Linux
Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote: It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!! Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell, which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another Big Lie. Help is available with activation issues. If the user logs in normally with an MSA to the machine, the phone help can use the MSA to zero in on the machine needing help. The server problem that lasted for a couple days has been fixed, and unless you did something rash, they've been backfilling the mess they made. What happened there, is already-activated copies started throwing up notification dialogs at startup. When that happens... don't panic. That's what happens when you insist on a "mainframe architecture" in the form of activation (single point of failure). Paul |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, Paul wrote:
Help is available with activation issues. Microsoft support was worse than useless. Also, I reject the very idea that needing 'permission from Microsoft' (which is what this amounts to) to use one's computer is acceptable in the first place. Basically with Windows 10 your PC is a terminal on Microsoft's network which they can do with as they please and decide at any time to deactivate. I'm not willing to put up with that on my own equipment. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, mechanic wrote:
Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it to be activated is fruitless. Not when it previously had been upgraded to Windows 10 via Microsoft's free upgrade offer, numbnuts. Perhaps you've already forgotten that period of time when Microsoft was so aggressive about rolling out the new OS that people were even inadvertantly being upgraded whether they wanted to or not. At the time we were told that Windows 10 used a digital license locked to the hardware and stored by Microsoft which would be honored in the event of a reload. (f/u set) Right back at you. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 29/12/2018 09.20, Mike Scott wrote: On 28/12/2018 22:31, Nomen Nescio wrote: ... Â*Â*I will not go beyond Windows 7.Â* .... Unfortunately, some organizations seem to think they don't need to support anything else. Two come instantly to mind that cause me some grief. Supply your own company names :-) Car GPS unit updates require windows - they don't even support vista now. Fortunately I have an old laptop that sits in the cupboard, but its time is running out. My old TomTom device refuses to connect to the computer now. I replaced the battery this year, did a map update, but now it doesn't connect at all to the computer, it does not put up the USB interface. I guess they intentionally bricked it remotely to force people purchase new units. I considered getting another brand, but they didn't convince me either. So the new TomTom I got gets updates via WiFi instead, without needing a computer. And has maps free for life, where life=5 years. That's probably acceptable, seems cheaper than the previous state. Its USB is seen by Linux, it is recognized. So maybe in Windows it can be used for something, but doing updates via WiFI will allow me not to boot Windows for that. Improvement :-) IoT is here. And without needing a host like Windows as the middleman we're all better off. The cloud is the host and the device is now the node. The devices are getting a lot smarter now. -- Peter Kozlov |
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Excellent article about Linux
Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-29, Paul wrote: Help is available with activation issues. Microsoft support was worse than useless. Also, I reject the very idea that needing 'permission from Microsoft' (which is what this amounts to) to use one's computer is acceptable in the first place. Basically with Windows 10 your PC is a terminal on Microsoft's network which they can do with as they please and decide at any time to deactivate. I'm not willing to put up with that on my own equipment. I have test VMs that continue to run, even though they are not activated. On this OS, it's a pretty low bar. (Your access to the personalization panel is turned off.) Paul |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 12/28/18 10:56, Anonymous wrote:
A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the mainstream. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/ It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!! I saw a combination of 2D FLATTY FLAT FLATSO [like win-10-nic] things in the screenshots, along with some 3D skeuomorphic elements as well, so I'm slightly interested at least. If what it does is give people UI CHOICE [unlike Win-10-nic] then I'll at least slow-clap it. /me goes back to using mate desktop on FreeBSD and Devuan, with VERY nice 3D skeuomorphic look, REAL buttons in title bars, colors of my choice, and so on. And _NO_ systemd. Yeah, I _REALLY_ *HATE* the 2D FLATTY FLAT FLATSO-ness of so-called "modern" UIs that look more like a bad clone of windows 1.0 . The FLAT look is *HORRIBLE*, but you see it EVERWHERE because a bunch of *FOOLS* at Google, Micro-shaft, and even Apple "like" it, and therefore SHOVE IT UP OUR ASSES. Ever since Windows 'Ape' (8) we've had to deal with that CRAP. Fat-finger-friendliness isn't helping. And the web "trend" of BRIGHT BLUE on BLINDING WHITE (aka Chrome, Apple web sites) is *THE* *WORST* especially because the 2D FLATTY FLAT FLATSO look on web pages [and 'The Metro' Settings in Win-10-nic] are HORRIBLE at indicating what 'thing' you need to click on, so you waste time trying to figure it out. And, it's FLUGLY. AKA 'FLAT+UGLY'. FLUGLY. So if an OS distribution trends AWAY from 2D FLATTY FLAT FLATSO, I'm at least interested. And hey, it's Linux. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 12/28/18 19:13, T wrote:
On 12/28/18 10:56 AM, Anonymous wrote: A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the mainstream. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/ It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!! I had the same reaction when I went from Scientific Linux (RHEL clone) to Fedora. Guess what? Once you learn it and get past the cussing phase, you will adore it. So cowboy up! no. switch to FreeBSD or Devuan, instead. "New" and/or "Shiny" does NOT equal "Better" and systemd forced WAY too many people to re-learn for NO good reason, which is a *WASTE* *OF* *TIME*. If I spent a lot of time learning how to configure a system with SysV startup, WHY should _I_ *HAVE* to CHANGE because a bunch of self-centered MORONS "felt" as if I NEEDED to? And I say that about a LOT of things "modern" *spit* since 2008-ish. Change for the sake of change. *NO* !!! If it WORKS, _DO_ _NOT_ _BREAK_ _IT_ I say!!! And that goes TRIPLE for what was done to UIs through the 2D FLATTY FLAT FLATSO FLUGLY-ness, vs 3D skeuomorphic. It's not "modern". It's ******. -- (aka 'Bombastic Bob' in case you wondered) 'Feeling with my fingers, and thinking with my brain' - me 'your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie' "Straighten up and fly right" |
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Excellent article about Linux
Carlos E.R. wrote:
My old TomTom device refuses to connect to the computer now. I replaced the battery this year, did a map update, but now it doesn't connect at all to the computer, it does not put up the USB interface. I guess they intentionally bricked it remotely to force people purchase new units. Toss it. I stopped using mine years ago. Google Maps on my phone does a better job, easier to set and modify route and route has up to date road conditions and no subscriptions.... -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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Excellent article about Linux
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:10:51 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
wrote: On 2018-12-29, mechanic wrote: Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it to be activated is fruitless. Not when it previously had been upgraded to Windows 10 via Microsoft's free upgrade offer, numbnuts. Perhaps you've already forgotten that period of time when Microsoft was so aggressive about rolling out the new OS that people were even inadvertantly being upgraded whether they wanted to or not. At the time we were told that Windows 10 used a digital license locked to the hardware and stored by Microsoft which would be honored in the event of a reload. I remember the cunning effort to get Windows users on W10. I tried it for free for a few days and decided W10 was not for me and so stayed on W7. I gave up all UNIX variations and derivatives a long time before trying Windows. I wrote Machine code and so I took to NT, ASM, C and C++. How time flies! Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 29/12/2018 17:11, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: My old TomTom device refuses to connect to the computer now. I replaced the battery this year, did a map update, but now it doesn't connect at all to the computer, it does not put up the USB interface. I guess they intentionally bricked it remotely to force people purchase new units. Toss it. I stopped using mine years ago. Google Maps on my phone does a better job, easier to set and modify route and route has up to date road conditions and no subscriptions.... I have tomtom go on my android phone. OK iots cost me $100 a year, but thts cheaper than te speed camera fines, and it has unlimited access to maps. and as long as I remember te login, its transferrable to another phone. Sure its insecure as hell. NSA knwos every time I go the the home improvement store. Good. stop them bothering someone else. -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen |
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Excellent article about Linux
In article , Roger Blake
wrote: Also, I reject the very idea that needing 'permission from Microsoft' (which is what this amounts to) to use one's computer is acceptable in the first place. Basically with Windows 10 your PC is a terminal on Microsoft's network which they can do with as they please and decide at any time to deactivate. I'm not willing to put up with that on my own equipment. nonsense. win10 works when not connected to any network and microsoft *cannot* deactivate anyone at random because they feel like it, and since there is no requirement to be online, there isn't any way they could even if they wanted to. |
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Excellent article about Linux
In comp.os.linux.misc Mike Scott wrote:
On 28/12/2018 22:31, Nomen Nescio wrote: ... *I will not go beyond Windows 7.* .... Unfortunately, some organizations seem to think they don't need to support anything else. This is all too true. Two come instantly to mind that cause me some grief. Supply your own company names :-) Car GPS unit updates require windows - they don't even support vista now. TomTom is one. Their 'updater', which did seemingly nothing beyond know how to log into their systems, download files, and store files on the unit (the unit appeared as a thumb drive when attached), was windows only. But, a bit over two years ago now they also decided that my unit was too old to get any more updates, and removed all support for further updating it. At which point I switched to OsmAnd https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/ for car GPS needs. Fortunately I have an old laptop that sits in the cupboard, but its time is running out. TomTom's 'updater' began life running on WinXP. At some point they 'upgraded' something and it then needed a minimum of Win7. I'd not be surprised that their newest version needed Win10 now. I strongly suspect there's a breed of programmer that's too lazy (or just too incompetent) to abstract out the OS interface from their code. It is likely more that corporate management does not see any value in instructing their contract programmers to abstract out the OS interface from the code. They (management) see MSWin (and sometimes MacOS, but not always) as the only alternatives they need to spend money supporting and the programmers are never tasked with supporting anything else. But there seems nothing the user can do -- there are no alternatives to those suppliers. For at least car GPS purposes there is OsmAnd [1], and it has the benefit of being driven from OpenStreetMap data so if you do find an issue, you can quickly just fix it yourself and the next monthly map update for OsmAnd will usually contain the fix (if the fix was made before their cutoff for generating new map data files). [1] There are a few others as well that are driven off of OpenStreetMap data. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:10:51 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-29, mechanic wrote: Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it to be activated is fruitless. Not when it previously had been upgraded to Windows 10 via Microsoft's free upgrade offer, numbnuts. Then the machine with upgraded Win10 will be logged in the appropriate MSFT server and reactivation is automatic at any reinstall of the Win10. This argument was all sorted out about five versions ago (of Win10). |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, Peter Kozlov wrote:
IoT is here. Not in my house it isn't. IoT is a terrible, terrible idea. Hordes of cheap, poorly-designed internet-connected devices most of which will never see security updates. What could possibly go wrong? And without needing a host like Windows as the middleman we're all better off. The cloud is the host and the device is now the node. The devices are getting a lot smarter now. All this "cloud" nonsense is just marketspeak for using someone else's hardware as a server. A return to the server and terminal computing of the 1970s. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote:
nonsense. win10 works when not connected to any network and microsoft *cannot* deactivate anyone at random because they feel like it, and since there is no requirement to be online, there isn't any way they could even if they wanted to. The number of Windows 10 installations not connected to the internet is miniscule. Once you are connected, they have control. Microsoft can change their activation policy, as well as what happens to non-activated systems, at any time. As I said, product activation alone is enough to keep me away from Microsoft products aside from any other considerations. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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