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Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:50:03 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
The Latin term is et al. and not et. al. (Its also the English term since we stole it) It is the shortened form of et alii, or, "and others." Hi Cybe R. Wizard, You are correct! o Mea culpa. o Nolo contendere As you know, I take _each_ post on its own merits & respond accordingly. (It's a tactic. It's intended to keep both you and me civil. And helpful.) Thank you for your advice, as I very much _do_ care for correct usage. The facts are that... 1. I was *incorrectly* using "et. al", which, corrected is: "et al.". [Using an (Am)English period; not using the (Br)English full stop punctuation.] 2. It stands for "et alii, meaning, "and others" as per this reference: https://grammarist.com/usage/et-al/ 3. I very much appreciate the correction - sincerely so. I goofed. o Let's hope I don't make the same mistake twice. o Gratias tibi ago. (I had to look _that_ one up though.) |
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Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaringsystem that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 20:03:28 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:50:03 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: The Latin term is et al. and not et. al. (Its also the English term since we stole it) It is the shortened form of et alii, or, "and others." Hi Cybe R. Wizard, You are correct! Yep. Its nice to hear it from you, though. Thanks. o Mea culpa. o Nolo contendere As you know, I take _each_ post on its own merits & respond accordingly. (It's a tactic. It's intended to keep both you and me civil. And helpful.) Actually, I know no such thing. Were it really the truth you would have already addressed the Dunning/Kruger effect post: Message-ID: 20190116153455.598ac1aa@WizardsTower ....wherein I meritoriously questioned your own ability to see shortcomings in yourself and which was posted the day previous to the one to which you /did/ reply. Additionally, you would also have addressed the post: Message-ID: 20190116173832.5bb5e1ba@WizardsTower ....posted the same day, a day /before/ the post to which you did reply with your mea culpa. Thank you for your advice, as I very much _do_ care for correct usage. That's the one thing I /really do/ like about you. You seem to care about and take care with proper English usage. Cybe R. Wizard -- I like to be open... and I like to be honest. I hate being disingenuous because that's really uncomfortable for me; I don't excel at doing that. Megan Fox |
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Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:23:22 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
That's the one thing I /really do/ like about you. You seem to care about and take care with proper English usage. Hi Cybe R. Wizard, I see _all_ your posts - I don't respond to them all - out of propriety. Thank you for recognizing I have been a good citizen of alt.usage.english for decades on end. https://alt.usage.english.narkive.com/ in that I strive to spell, punctuate, & "grammarize" sentences correctly. More to the point though... I'm always striving to IMPROVE upon our combined tribal knowledge. o Mine; o And yours (even unbeknownst to you, as you can see below). For example, I asked for help on this very question you brought up! https://alt.usage.english.narkive.com/IYRnAbiZ/why-on-earth-do-we-abbreviate-alli-so-often-to-save-1-character I'm DIFFERENT from almost everyone you have ever met in your life (in a bunch of ways, the COMBINATION of which makes me unusual). For an example, I maintain a Usenet STRATEGY which I call the "FAQ model". Where, by design, my TACTICS fit _that_ strategy. If you don't COMPREHEND my strategy & tactics - you won't understand me. For example, most Usenet posters use what I call the "chit-chat model". o They post 99% to other people's threads, & only 1% to their own threads. o Each post contains, usually, very little technical information (normally) o For _that_ model, WHO you are is often more important than WHAT you say I use a completely different model, which I call the "Q&A model". o I post 99% to my Q&A threads, & only 1% to other people's threads o Each post contains, usually, well-cited factual information (normally) o For _that_ model, WHAT you say are is more important than WHO you are You'll note, for example, that most of you who use the "chitchat" model, care greatly about the identity of whom you're dealing with - whereas - I don't give one whit about whom I'm dealing with - other than when they're wasting our time - in that I can't forget them (much as I would like to perhaps). My strategy is to FURTHER our tribal knowledge, by obtaining technical answers to technical questions. My tactics fit that strategy (for the most part). For example: o Is this (Marek assisted) Internet privacy procedure as good as I can make it? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Ih1TMsMjV_M/zYlVS6YOEgAJ To be blunt, most of my questions either have a single technical answer, or, as is often the case, there is no known answer to my questions. Hence, most of my threads SHOULD be a single post (for those that just have no known answers), or, they should be a "few" posts, like this thread is, if we subtract the idiocy from the likes of people like FredW. This thread is a GOOD example of the Usenet Q&A model working well: a. Asking a question that doesn't have a well-known answer (it seems) b. Together, deriving the answer (mostly from Mike Easter's help) c. And then summarizing the findings (to add to the tribal knowledge) This thread is another good example of the Q&A model working well: o What algorithm would you use to find the "best" file by speed? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/WmihnKr-ZyI/1O1msUyLCQAJ As is this typical Q&A thread where the Usenet use model works well: o How do I stop DNS LEAKS in Ubuntu with wicd as the network manager? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/X2H2H8CnqS8/SzmHvNjLDQAJ Another example of a GOOD Q&A Usenet thread, for example, is this: o Ping Steve Crook & other free server admins: How/why are Avast headers & sig added to these messages? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/a8o3srYBw0U/6wkedyq9BAAJ Notice how we worked together, in this case, mostly Marek Novotny & me. Some of those Q&A threads don't come to a firm conclusion: o What would you suggest for reliable servers to ping for connectivity https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/4cRfRFIgQdU/4Hx5mOTPBgAJ But most advance our tribal knowledge, step by step, by step, by step: o Two questions for Marek about the operation of the vpnstatus script https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/G-84_RC0ePA/F2jn48ObBAAJ Where I'm usually excited to the point that I just want to share with all! o Script inspired by Marek for changing the name of vpn files https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/fEVBFUDAhvE/keRxje0GBwAJ And, where I'm sometimes so clueless that I desperately need your help: o Can you help interpret this wireshark tcpdump pcap output? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/KANMFLA_RQg/e7RVnSM_DwAJ Here's another case where I'm out of my league - so I ask for help: o How do you tell what kind of VPN when you're in a VPN session? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/79Z_OaThLCA/Qz6hwrr4EwAJ And, where, often, I report "issues" with things, asking for solutions: o Report of potential bug/enh in vpnstatus.sh & tbird.sh scripts https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Uc3yqYZlL0Y/sTP29UsVDQAJ And where, in general, VERY FEW PEOPLE actually have usable answers: o Report of potential bug/enh in vpnstatus.sh & tbird.sh scripts https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Uc3yqYZlL0Y/sTP29UsVDQAJ Now, lots of times, nobody knows more than I do when I ask a question. o What free unlimited bandwidth proxy-based browsers exist for Ubuntu Linux? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/I78Sg-TQIUo/-mO1ddQVBAAJ And that's OK. Those threads should be short (ideally, a single post). But, most of the time, I can COMBINE our knowledge to write a SOLUTION: o Result of 1 year of work improving free VPN for Linux users https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/j5nKzZs9O-4/nU13HkivBwAJ Where some threads consist purely of those added-value solutions: o Free openvpn config using efficient scripts (please improve so all benefit) https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/IXT9Eblx3iw/2D8Tta06FgAJ I could go on (and on) for, oh, I don't know ... THOUSANDS of tutorials (I don't count them - but I generally write at least one or two or three a week - not all of which do I post to Usenet as I'm well know on about a dozen topic-specific web sites where I post my DIYs & Tutorials galore). Having said all of that, what irks me are the utterly incomprehensibly idiotic comments such as those you see from Dan Purgert, you, and FredW in this thread (and where I can list thousands in other threads), where, I simply ask these people if THEY contribute to the thread with their utterly idiotic drivel. I do this STRATEGICALLY, not to save the current thread, since I believe once the trolls show up in any thread, like flies at a picnic, it's already ruined (where I bluntly liken it to the trolls ****ting on the potluck picnic table that is Usenet) - but - to save the NEXT thread. That is, if I make it "not fun" for YOU, Cybe R. Wizard, to troll, you've ALREADY ruined THIS thread by your trolls - but - I hope to make you aware that I will ALWAYS call you out on your trolls (like I did in this thread). I do that - on purpose - to make it more expensive (i.e., "less fun") for you and those like you to play your worthless silly little games. Bear in mind I'm EXPLAINING my tactics to support my strategy, so I'm sort of breaking my rule responding to like posts in like manner - in that I don't "think" your most recent post that I'm responding to is a troll - but - it's clear as the air we breathe that your INITIAL post to this thread was your attempt to **** on the table of the potluck picnic that is Usenet. You're shocked, I'm sure, that I called you out on your trolling; but you really should simply realize that I'm CONSISTENT in my tactics which support my strategy. My strategy is to learn & further our combined tribal knowledge. My tactic is to ask a question - manage the thread - and then leave. When the trolls inevitably arrive - I assume that Q&A thread is already ruined just as if the trolls shat' on the Potluck Picnic Table as their contribution to Usenet - so I simply make it "expensive" (i.e., "less fun") for the trolls to play their silly little games. One thing is going to change though, moving forward, which is that I'm going to realize that "some people" are not only incredibly stupid (which I already knew), but they're literally incapable of comprehending even the simplest of facts. There is a thread already on that topic so I belabor it not here... o I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/4Wb5i0W3nOo |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 06:24:43 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder wrote: That is, if I make it "not fun" for YOU, Cybe R. Wizard, to troll, you've ALREADY ruined THIS thread by your trolls - but - I hope to make you aware that I will ALWAYS call you out on your trolls (like I did in this thread). In that case you have failed yet again and failed most miserably. I do, though, fully understand that such is a normal position for you in which you regularly find yourself. But, hey, go on ahead and call me right out on my post showing definitively why YOU are the poster child for the Dunning/Kruger effect on the less-than-normally-gifted. In case you've 'lost' it, here it is: Message-ID: 20190116153455.598ac1aa@WizardsTower Waiting for that one from you will take a while, I'm sure, as you are so afraid of it. Fear on, fear on, little girl. Otherwise you would have long since addressed it, wouldn't you have? Coward, arlene? Say you are. Go on and say it out loud; it won't hurt. I think goading you is /great/ fun. Blasting buffoons with their own buffoonery always is. You are so cocksure and blatantly arrogant and so wrong in both opinions that it is pure joy to bring you down to the point where you have no other recourse but to deflect and obfuscate the very point I've been making, to whit, you are the very epitome of the low-browed believing they are /all that/ (/in/ a bag -0- chips). Run, arlow, run! Dodge, harlen, dodge! ...and show those 10,000 tutorials. You know you can! You know you want to! You know that everyone is waiting with bated breath to see them. SURE, you did. Riiight. Get with the program and show that you aren't just another pathetic blowhard liar. As if you could. Cybe R. Wizard -10,000 tutorials is almost one EACH day for 30 YEARS -- 1) huge ego - check 2) inflated sense of self importance - check 3) clueless idiot - check 4) megalomaniac tendencies - check 5) elected official - who yet knows? Sounds like arlen is a professional politician. What personality flaws contribute to this deviant behavior and how can a society work to correct them? |
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arlen holder wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:23:22 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: That's the one thing I /really do/ like about you. You seem to care about and take care with proper English usage. Hi Cybe R. Wizard, [...] I'm DIFFERENT from almost everyone you have ever met in your life (in a bunch of ways, the COMBINATION of which makes me unusual). Everyone is different from everyone else. That's part of being human .... unless you're a lizardperson perhaps? That would be a way better explanation for why you use everyone's full nick all the time than something about "talking to them like children". For an example, I maintain a Usenet STRATEGY which I call the "FAQ model". Where, by design, my TACTICS fit _that_ strategy. If you don't COMPREHEND my strategy & tactics - you won't understand me. I've yet to see anyone who doesn't comprehend what it is you're doing, arlen holder. For example, most Usenet posters use what I call the "chit-chat model". o They post 99% to other people's threads, & only 1% to their own threads. Perhaps it's because they have no need to create threads to get things done, yet rather reserve their posting for people needing help. Though that does have downsides of making it look like a group is dead. o Each post contains, usually, very little technical information (normally) One can cherry-pick anything to suit their needs, of course, arlen holder. [...] o Each post contains, usually, well-cited factual information (normally) o For _that_ model, WHAT you say are is more important than WHO you are Unless you're "Diesel, Snit, Colonel Edmund J. Burke, John, Doe, Nomen Nomescu, Shadow, Good Guy, Mr. Man-wai Chang, David B., %, Anonymous, Cybe R Wizard, etc. (MessageID: )", of course. You'll note, for example, that most of you who use the "chitchat" model, care greatly about the identity of whom you're dealing with - whereas - I don't give one whit about whom I'm dealing with - other than when they're wasting our time - in that I can't forget them (much as I would like to perhaps). That is, merely your opinon, arlen holder. My strategy is to FURTHER our tribal knowledge, by obtaining technical answers to technical questions. My tactics fit that strategy (for the most part). Until they don't, and you start in on your ad hominem arguments that someone is "a child" (or immune to facts, or whatever the angle du jour is, arlen holder.) For example: o Is this (Marek assisted) Internet privacy procedure as good as I can make it? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Ih1TMsMjV_M/zYlVS6YOEgAJ "Internet privacy", links to google. Made me think of this: "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." [...] This thread is a GOOD example of the Usenet Q&A model working well: a. Asking a question that doesn't have a well-known answer (it seems) It has a well-known answer. "Run a CalDAV server of your own". It's not an "easy" solution by any means, but it is well known. Trouble is, the likes of facebook / google / etc. have done about as much good to "the web" as AOL did to Usenet in 1993. [...] Having said all of that, what irks me are the utterly incomprehensibly idiotic comments such as those you see from Dan Purgert, you, and FredW in this thread (and where I can list thousands in other threads), where, I simply ask these people if THEY contribute to the thread with their utterly idiotic drivel. arlen holder, you could've left this out, and nothing of value would've been lost. I do this STRATEGICALLY, not to save the current thread, since I believe arlen holder, the thing you miss is that the thread does not need "saving" by any stretch of the imagination. once the trolls show up in any thread, like flies at a picnic, it's already ruined (where I bluntly liken it to the trolls ****ting on the potluck picnic table that is Usenet) - but - to save the NEXT thread. Where you'll have the same antics as ever, arlen holder. We really shouldn't sink to the bait, but, well, it can be fun. That is, if I make it "not fun" for YOU, Cybe R. Wizard, to troll, you've ALREADY ruined THIS thread by your trolls - but - I hope to make you aware that I will ALWAYS call you out on your trolls (like I did in this thread). Some big accusations there, arlen holder. You've done just as much (if not more) to sully the thread as anyone else. I do that - on purpose - to make it more expensive (i.e., "less fun") for you and those like you to play your worthless silly little games. I've yet to stop having "fun" in this thread (although your posts do tend to be like reading Tolkien. Lots of words to say very little). My strategy is to learn & further our combined tribal knowledge. My tactic is to ask a question - manage the thread - and then leave. "Manage" a thread by making ad hominem attacks toward people you don't like, arlen holder. When the trolls inevitably arrive - I assume that Q&A thread is already ruined just as if the trolls shat' on the Potluck Picnic Table as their contribution to Usenet - so I simply make it "expensive" (i.e., "less fun") for the trolls to play their silly little games. arlen holder, the thing you don't understand is that the thread is not ruined at all; until you start making ad hominem arguments (and at which time, people respond in kind). Not to mention, it's funny watching you get riled up and calling people more knowledgeable than you children, and then you not getting any answers about whatever. One thing is going to change though, moving forward, which is that I'm going to realize that "some people" are not only incredibly stupid (which I already knew), but they're literally incapable of comprehending even the simplest of facts. There is a thread already on that topic so I belabor it not here... arlen holder, you mean people like Cybe, right? I mean, you did happen to call him out by name in the aforementioned thread. o I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale And Cybe. Don't forget you called him out by name in that list as well. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 |
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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 06:24:43 -0000 (UTC) arlen holder wrote: That is, if I make it "not fun" for YOU, Cybe R. Wizard, to troll, you've ALREADY ruined THIS thread by your trolls - but - I hope to make you aware that I will ALWAYS call you out on your trolls (like I did in this thread). [...] Cybe R. Wizard -10,000 tutorials is almost one EACH day for 30 YEARS $10 says he's counting "each post" in his "style" a "tutorial". -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:33:53 -0500
Wolf K wrote: On 2019-01-18 01:24, arlen holder wrote: [...] I could go on (and on) for, oh, I don't know ... THOUSANDS of tutorials (I don't count them - but I generally write at least one or two or three a week - not all of which do I post to Usenet as I'm well know on about a dozen topic-specific web sites where I post my DIYs & Tutorials galore). [...] Do the arithmetic: Assume the 1.5 per week on average. That's 78/year, 780 in 10 years, 1560 in 20 years, 2340 in 30 years. 30 Years ago was 1988. I didn't see any of your tutorials back then, so where were you? Sorry for indulging in "chit-chat", but if you make claims, they should at least be plausible? Have a frabjous day, Just naturally Arlow Holding is lying: ---------- Message-ID: Arelene Holdout said: "I have likely written over ten thousand tutorials, where at my last company, I wrote over five thousand alone. On the Internet, I don't know how many I have, but if you assume that I write one a day sometimes, and at least one a week, I have many thousands" ---------- Your math is spot on. His lies are spotted quickly. Cybe R. Wizard -- Usenet Rule #5 (Reimer's Reason): Nobody ever ignores what they should ignore on Usenet. |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:52:14 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
"I have likely written over ten thousand tutorials, where at my last company, I wrote over five thousand alone. On the Internet, I don't know how many I have, but if you assume that I write one a day sometimes, and at least one a week, I have many thousands" IMPORTANT UPDATE! (This makes the entire process _much_ easier to use a Windows server!) See also new information from Frank Slootweg & Paul & Dan Purgert & Poutnik in this thread from today where we figured out that the Android freeware SMB clients are using (apparently) SMBv1 while Windows 10 SMB server, by default, expressly does not enable SMBv1 (Windows 10 apparently only enables SMBv2 or SMBv3). https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/iIjcGCYnm-E The error message you get using the AndSMB client is cryptic: o "at jcifs.e.a.c.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java: 761)" o "Connecting, please wait ..." o "Cannot change directory to /pubpc2" http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5615405smb_win10_default03.jpg What that AndSMB client error actually indicates is something like: "The AndSMB client, using SMBv1, cannot connect to your Windows 10 SMB server because SMBv2 or SMBv3 is enabled, but not SMBv1." To enable SMBv1 in Windows 10, all you need to do are these steps: o Start Run control OK o Programs Programs and Features Turn Windows Features on or off o Change from: [_]SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support [_]SMB 1.0/CIFS Automatic Removal === I'm not sure what this is??? [_]SMB 1.0/CIFS Client [_]SMB 1.0/CIFS Server [x]SMB Direct o Change to: [x]SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support [x]SMB 1.0/CIFS Automatic Removal === I'm not sure what this is??? [x]SMB 1.0/CIFS Client [x]SMB 1.0/CIFS Server [x]SMB Direct o Reboot Here's what one machine had as the defaults (and what I changed it to): http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2299279smb_win10_default01.jpg Here's the similar (slightly different) default on the other Win10 machine: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3580897smb_win10_default02.png Here is what AndSMB looks like once you have SMBv1 running on Win10: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9491157smb_win10_default04.jpg Here is SyncMe WiFi working once you have SMBv1 running on Win10: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4819399smb_win10_default05.jpg In summary, thanks to Paul & Dan Purgert & Poutnik, and particularly to Frank Slootweg, we can now get an SMBv1 *client* to talk to Windows 10. This is useful for a variety of purpose, e.g., for passing CalDAV exports back and forth between Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, and Android, so as to manage a calendar on your home LAN sans need for putting your calendar on the Internet: o Can we come up with a free, ad free, cloud-free calendaring system that works with Windows and Linux and mobile devices? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/ydQ9sG-8Y08 Or, for passing a KeePass passwd.kdbx encrypted password file db across your personal LAN to all your Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, and Android devices, again, sans need for putting passwds on the Internet: o Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/iIjcGCYnm-E CAVEAT: This only works for SMB *clients* on Android. The Android SMB *server* still has the deadly catch22 of: o Windows SMB clients are hard coded to TCP port 445 traffic o Unrooted Android SMB severs are not allowed to use ports 1-1024 |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 01:33:10 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:52:14 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard /DID NOT/ write: "I have likely written over ten thousand tutorials, where at my last company, I wrote over five thousand alone. On the Internet, I don't know how many I have, but if you assume that I write one a day sometimes, and at least one a week, I have many thousands" Another lie, Horlew. Clearly I have never claimed to have written ANY tutorials. I HAVE regularly challenged YOUR claim to have written 10,000 tutorials and am still awaiting that list from you. One per day, EVERY SINGLE DAY, for over 27 years seems like a lie to me. Show the list, liar. Why do you try deflection and blaming me for your own obvious foibles and failures? I've never written one single tutorial of which I am aware. Do you think that you are a constant delight for your mother by being an inveterate liar? I'm sure that she is SO PROUD. Cybe R. Wizard -- Let me get you to understand I don't bully anybody. I stand up for what I believe in and I'm very honest and I always tell the truth. I'm not a liar, I'm not manipulative and I don't stab you in your back because I will stab you in your chest. NeNe Leakes |
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