Curved Monitors.

Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

On 3/2/2019 6:10 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter


I suppose monitor size...application being used...number of persons
viewing it...might be determining factors. For myself, I want only a
flat monitor...but that's just me.

GrtArtiste

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.



You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1. Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.

In article , Peter Jason
wrote:

Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

this should do you well:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13478/dell-u4919dw-curved-display

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...tor-is-a-49-in
ch-dual-qhd-curved-behemoth/

Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1. Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.

A curved monitor of sufficiently large aspect ratio,
might give you two sheets of paper in view. And without
bezel gaps. Anything with 178/178 should give consistent
color from side to side, and without needing to "tilt"
the monitor like you would with a TN panel.

29" IPS (178/178 degree view) LED Backlight LCD Monitor, 2560 x 1080 $238

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA2W08NJ4210

34" VA (178/178 degree view) ??? Backlight LCD Monitor, 3440x1440 $800

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824022736

38" IPS (178/178 degree view) LCD Monitor, 3840x1600 $1100

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA0ZX5C00763

1) Be careful of the connector standards. Make sure the GTX 1050
has the right standards version number for the job.

2) The last monitor accepts two separate HDMI if you want,
allowing two PCs to drive the left and right side of the monitor.

3) The screen W x H might not all be VESA standards,
so just setting the screen to native could be a challenge.

But, at least they exist. They're the kind of thing, you
want a brick and mortar store to do a trial and see if the
quality is acceptable.

The last one is a yard wide and half a yard high (with stand).
Get out a yard stick and measure your desk surface to see if
it will fit :-)

My favorite game won't work right on a screen with weird
dimensions like that.

Paul

In article , s says...

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1. Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.

Me too, dual-monitors is way to go. I'm even thinking two 32" tv's with
VGA inputs would be nice given I use just one all the time here for
secondary pcs hooked up as media players to tvs.

Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1. Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.


I just noticed this article. Now this is a big monitor.

49" 5120x1440 @ 60Hz IPS 48" wide, 22" high with stand. 40lb weight. $1500

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...itor,6001.html

You can probably put two tabloid sheets of paper on that. It's
basically two 2560x1440 monitors side by side, with no "gap".

The weirdest part, is it only draws 43W of electricity. That
can't possibly be right.

When you tip it on its side, it doubles as a skateboard park.

Paul

In article , Paul
wrote:

I just noticed this article. Now this is a big monitor.

49" 5120x1440 @ 60Hz IPS 48" wide, 22" high with stand. 40lb weight. $1500

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ved-monitor,60
01.html

You can probably put two tabloid sheets of paper on that. It's
basically two 2560x1440 monitors side by side, with no "gap".

The weirdest part, is it only draws 43W of electricity. That
can't possibly be right.

60w typical, 230w maximum, 0.5w sleeping:
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell...-monitor-u4919
dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories

When you tip it on its side, it doubles as a skateboard park.

even better when it's used in portrait mode:
https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-ne...de2-800x450.jp
g

On 3/2/2019 4:37 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050.Â* Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again.Â* Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor.Â* 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1.Â* Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.


I'd go to Bestbuy or Fry's or somewhere that has a bunch of monitors on
active display.
Don't be fooled by the probability that the content is manufactured in
such a way that you can't duplicate with your video card.

I asked the Bestbuy droid to show me an application that benefited from
the maximum resolution of the display. He couldn't.
I asked him where I could get 4K content. He had to admit that there
ain't much. Will it work with my video card? NO.


I have two 23" displays side by side. My video card can easily
handle that. With a push of a button, I can switch either or both displays
among three computers. Synergy lets me use the same mouse and keyboard
on any of the computers. Can't do all that with one display.

And a display with an equivalent number of pixels would be 40" wide.

Do some math. Look at the width of the screen and the viewing distance
and the space between your eyes. The best view is at the focus of the
screen curvature. Unless you are at the right viewing distance and have
only one eye, the problem has no solution.
Good approximation for a movie theater. For a desktop computer, not so
much.

Small displays with resolution greater than the typical eye can perceive
and curved displays are an expensive solution searching for a problem.
I'm thankful for that because it's the source for $5 garage sale
monitors surplused by the early adopters.

In article , Mike
wrote:

I'd go to Bestbuy or Fry's or somewhere that has a bunch of monitors on
active display.
Don't be fooled by the probability that the content is manufactured in
such a way that you can't duplicate with your video card.

if it's connected to a normal computer, it can't be faked.

I asked the Bestbuy droid to show me an application that benefited from
the maximum resolution of the display. He couldn't.

you'd be lucky if he could tell you where the on/off button was.

I asked him where I could get 4K content. He had to admit that there
ain't much.

he's wrong on that too, and there's a *lot* more to a 4k display than
4k videos anyway.

Will it work with my video card? NO.

that's a separate issue, one that's easily solved.

I have two 23" displays side by side. My video card can easily
handle that. With a push of a button, I can switch either or both displays
among three computers. Synergy lets me use the same mouse and keyboard
on any of the computers. Can't do all that with one display.

of course that can be done, although there's no reason to.

And a display with an equivalent number of pixels would be 40" wide.

that depends on the display.

Do some math. Look at the width of the screen and the viewing distance
and the space between your eyes. The best view is at the focus of the
screen curvature. Unless you are at the right viewing distance and have
only one eye, the problem has no solution.
Good approximation for a movie theater. For a desktop computer, not so
much.

the ultra-wide displays need to be curved for several reasons.

Small displays with resolution greater than the typical eye can perceive
and curved displays are an expensive solution searching for a problem.

nonsense. hi-dpi displays are visually *much* better. significantly so.

I'm thankful for that because it's the source for $5 garage sale
monitors surplused by the early adopters.

they may be cheap but they're nowhere near as good.

Mike wrote:
On 3/2/2019 4:37 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050. Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to flat
monitors again. Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor. 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1. Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.


I'd go to Bestbuy or Fry's or somewhere that has a bunch of monitors on
active display.
Don't be fooled by the probability that the content is manufactured in
such a way that you can't duplicate with your video card.

I asked the Bestbuy droid to show me an application that benefited from
the maximum resolution of the display. He couldn't.
I asked him where I could get 4K content. He had to admit that there
ain't much. Will it work with my video card? NO.


I have two 23" displays side by side. My video card can easily
handle that. With a push of a button, I can switch either or both displays
among three computers. Synergy lets me use the same mouse and keyboard
on any of the computers. Can't do all that with one display.

And a display with an equivalent number of pixels would be 40" wide.

Do some math. Look at the width of the screen and the viewing distance
and the space between your eyes. The best view is at the focus of the
screen curvature. Unless you are at the right viewing distance and have
only one eye, the problem has no solution.
Good approximation for a movie theater. For a desktop computer, not so
much.

Small displays with resolution greater than the typical eye can perceive
and curved displays are an expensive solution searching for a problem.
I'm thankful for that because it's the source for $5 garage sale
monitors surplused by the early adopters.

The video doesn't have to be delivered this way, but I didn't
really know what I was getting until I got one and played with it.
At 1.4GB, I thought I was getting a "short" of some sort.

https://www.red.com/sample-r3d-files

EPIC-W 8K S35
8K FF (8192 x 4320)
24 fps
REDCODE 7:1
DSMC2 Standard OLPF
.zip — 1.48 GB

http://downloads.red.com/sample-r3d-...dcode_16x9.zip

H004_C006_1211TB_001.R3D

*******

REDCINE-X PRO [Not fully compliant to Windows desktop behaviors]

Open and work with your REDCODE RAW R3D files.
Includes RED PLAYER 7/20/2018 Version 50.5.0 SIZE:154 MB (Win)

It turns out that 1.4GB video is 7 seconds long. Or 200MB/sec
in terms of data rate. With a little work, it can be reduced to a
quite a bit smaller .mp4 file.

You can try running that on some exotic monitor solution
and see what it looks like.

The video in question, is a telephoto shot down some
wide street in (perhaps) Tokyo.

Most of the RED samples I've run into, have been boring boring boring.
At least there's a tiny bit of motion in the 7 second video. The following
photo is one frame from the movie.

https://i.postimg.cc/qR5ZYzJw/H004-C...-8-0000114.jpg

Paul

On 3/2/2019 8:58 PM, Paul wrote:
Mike wrote:
On 3/2/2019 4:37 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:54:51 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 17:45:01 -0600, Paul in Houston
TX wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Is there any downside to these? I have a NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1050.Â* Peter

I really like my curved Samsung C24FG70 and will never go back to
flat
monitors again.Â* Have not found a downside.
The LC24FG73FQ is out now and supposedly even better.
27" is too big for my distance from the monitor.Â* 24" is just right.

Thanks to all; I want a bigger monitor to allow
easier 2-program display, and so I might as well
have a curved one as well.

You might want to also consider having two (or more) monitors. I use
two 24" monitors and they are arranged side by side at a slight angle
to each other, so it's *sort of* like a single curved monitor.

+1.Â* Two monitors is definitely the way to go.
Everyone at the office has (2) 24" flat monitors.
A few people also have a 19" for a third monitor.


I'd go to Bestbuy or Fry's or somewhere that has a bunch of monitors
on active display.
Don't be fooled by the probability that the content is manufactured in
such a way that you can't duplicate with your video card.

I asked the Bestbuy droid to show me an application that benefited from
the maximum resolution of the display.Â* He couldn't.
I asked him where I could get 4K content.Â* He had to admit that there
ain't much.Â* Will it work with my video card?Â* NO.


I have two 23" displays side by side.Â* My video card can easily
handle that.Â* With a push of a button, I can switch either or both
displays
among three computers.Â* Synergy lets me use the same mouse and keyboard
on any of the computers.Â* Can't do all that with one display.

And a display with an equivalent number of pixels would be 40" wide.

Do some math.Â* Look at the width of the screen and the viewing distance
and the space between your eyes.Â* The best view is at the focus of the
screen curvature.Â* Unless you are at the right viewing distance and have
only one eye, the problem has no solution.
Good approximation for a movie theater.Â*Â* For a desktop computer, not
so much.

Small displays with resolution greater than the typical eye can perceive
and curved displays are an expensive solution searching for a problem.
I'm thankful for that because it's the source for $5 garage sale
monitors surplused by the early adopters.

The video doesn't have to be delivered this way, but I didn't
really know what I was getting until I got one and played with it.
At 1.4GB, I thought I was getting a "short" of some sort.

https://www.red.com/sample-r3d-files

Â*Â* EPIC-W 8K S35
Â*Â* 8K FF (8192 x 4320)
Â*Â* 24 fps
Â*Â* REDCODE 7:1
Â*Â* DSMC2 Standard OLPF
Â*Â* .zip — 1.48 GB


http://downloads.red.com/sample-r3d-...dcode_16x9.zip


Â*Â* H004_C006_1211TB_001.R3D

Â*Â* *******

Â*Â* REDCINE-X PRO [Not fully compliant to Windows desktop behaviors]

Â*Â* Open and work with your REDCODE RAW R3D files.
Â*Â* Includes RED PLAYERÂ* 7/20/2018 Version 50.5.0 SIZE:154 MB (Win)

It turns out that 1.4GB video is 7 seconds long. Or 200MB/sec
in terms of data rate. With a little work, it can be reduced to a
quite a bit smaller .mp4 file.

You can try running that on some exotic monitor solution
and see what it looks like.

The video in question, is a telephoto shot down some
wide street in (perhaps) Tokyo.

Most of the RED samples I've run into, have been boring boring boring.
At least there's a tiny bit of motion in the 7 second video. The following
photo is one frame from the movie.

https://i.postimg.cc/qR5ZYzJw/H004-C...-8-0000114.jpg

Â*Â* Paul
That's a pretty picture, but what if:
Your monitor doesn't have that many pixels.
The screen is too small and the pixel density is higher
than your eyes can resolve...not everybody is 15 years old...
It's been reformatted to .mp4 and lost some resolution and added
motion artifacts.
Your provider has compressed it further to save bandwidth
Your ISP can't keep up
Your computer can't keep up

I'm sure that you can get some content displayed if you throw
enough money at it.

Save a football game off USA OTA ATSC in .wtv format.
Find similar content on the web. Compare the results.
Do the same for a movie.
The difference in the quality of the experience is significant.
Having 4K pixels on a screen with motion artifacts that obscure
the image is not progress.