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Old March 9th 19, 06:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default trying to use VM under WMWare but cannot

In order to run Win 7 guest as a VM in Wmware Workstation 15 player on
my Win 10 (host) laptop, I installed Workstation 15. However, even
before complete, I got a warning about probably not being able to run
any VM's. I tried to install Win 7 anyway, but upon installation, I get
the following messages:

This host supports Intel VT-x, but the Intel VT-x implementation is
incompatible with VMware Player.

This host does not support **Intel EPT** hardware assisted MMU
virtualization.

This host does not support virtualzing real mode. The Intel "VMX
Unrestricted Guest" feature is necessary to run this virtual machine on
an Intel processor.

Module "CPUIDEarly" power on failed.

Failed to start the virtual machine.


So, lots of messages. IIRC, I used WMWare a few years back on a far
less capable laptop running Win 7 host with Win XP as a VM. There's no
way I shouldn't be able to run it now on a much newer laptop. I am
using a Quad core Dell Inspiron 1545 with 500 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM.

I need to get this operating as soon as possible, so would appreciate
any thoughts. If I were to take a guess, I'd say I need an earlier
version of VMWare and, if so, which version?

Thank you
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Old March 9th 19, 07:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/03/2019 17:59, JBI wrote:
In order to run Win 7 guest as a VM in Wmware Workstation


This is not the place to ask Windows 7 questions. Please get your brain
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Old March 9th 19, 07:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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JBI wrote:

In order to run Win 7 guest as a VM in Wmware Workstation 15 player on
my Win 10 (host) laptop, I installed Workstation 15. However, even
before complete, I got a warning about probably not being able to run
any VM's. I tried to install Win 7 anyway, but upon installation, I get
the following messages:

This host supports Intel VT-x, but the Intel VT-x implementation is
incompatible with VMware Player.

This host does not support **Intel EPT** hardware assisted MMU
virtualization.

This host does not support virtualzing real mode. The Intel "VMX
Unrestricted Guest" feature is necessary to run this virtual machine on
an Intel processor.

Module "CPUIDEarly" power on failed.

Failed to start the virtual machine.

So, lots of messages. IIRC, I used WMWare a few years back on a far
less capable laptop running Win 7 host with Win XP as a VM. There's no
way I shouldn't be able to run it now on a much newer laptop. I am
using a Quad core Dell Inspiron 1545 with 500 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM.

I need to get this operating as soon as possible, so would appreciate
any thoughts. If I were to take a guess, I'd say I need an earlier
version of VMWare and, if so, which version?

Thank you


The CPU you have (not mentioned) has the VT-x firmware code but the BIOS
on the motherboard may not support it. If you go into the BIOS
settings, is there a setting to enable/disable VT-x?

I've used VMware Player on hosts where the BIOS did not support VT-x.
VMWare Player will then use software emulation because hardware assisted
VM is not available from the BIOS/hardware. It's probably been around 4
years since I last used VMware Player (or VirtualBox). Perhaps VMware
decided to stop supporting software emulation since those hosts where it
would get used would be very hold and susceptible to several
vulnerabilities. Since it's been awhile, maybe I'm confusing VMMs
(Virtual Machine Managers) and it's VirtualBox that had/has the software
emulation of VM firmware when the CPU or BIOS don't support it.

https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1003944
https://www.tactig.com/enable-intel-...re-virtualbox/

Looks like your hardware won't support hardware-assisted VM or it has
not been enabled.
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Old March 9th 19, 10:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Try an older VMWare Player version. I`m still on VMWare Player 12.5.9
because the newer ones lost compatibility to older processors.
Download of 12.5.9:
https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/det...524&rPId=20840


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Old March 9th 19, 11:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 3/9/19 4:02 PM, Michael Logies wrote:
Try an older VMWare Player version. I`m still on VMWare Player 12.5.9
because the newer ones lost compatibility to older processors.
Download of 12.5.9:
https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/det...524&rPId=20840



This is what I ended up doing, going with an older version. However,
the first trial program I installed did install ok, but refused to run I
assume because it somehow detected a virtual and not real environment.
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Old March 10th 19, 12:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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JBI wrote:
In order to run Win 7 guest as a VM in Wmware Workstation 15 player on
my Win 10 (host) laptop, I installed Workstation 15. However, even
before complete, I got a warning about probably not being able to run
any VM's. I tried to install Win 7 anyway, but upon installation, I get
the following messages:

This host supports Intel VT-x, but the Intel VT-x implementation is
incompatible with VMware Player.

This host does not support **Intel EPT** hardware assisted MMU
virtualization.

This host does not support virtualzing real mode. The Intel "VMX
Unrestricted Guest" feature is necessary to run this virtual machine on
an Intel processor.

Module "CPUIDEarly" power on failed.

Failed to start the virtual machine.


So, lots of messages. IIRC, I used WMWare a few years back on a far
less capable laptop running Win 7 host with Win XP as a VM. There's no
way I shouldn't be able to run it now on a much newer laptop. I am
using a Quad core Dell Inspiron 1545 with 500 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM.

I need to get this operating as soon as possible, so would appreciate
any thoughts. If I were to take a guess, I'd say I need an earlier
version of VMWare and, if so, which version?

Thank you


This utility tells you about the instruction set. And helps
you figure out whether Win8/Win10 will install.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...loads/coreinfo

The Intel PIU on the other hand, can give info on how your
virtual machine hosting will work out. Intel actually has
a couple generations of utility, and there's another one to
tell you about your Pentium III. Note that this version needs
the latest .NET version, plus it will make you install some
Visual Studio Runtime, turning what should have been an easy
job, into a chore. And it also runs as admin, because all it's
really doing is executing some privileged CPUID instructions
or the like.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...indows-Version

Here is a picture of me checking whether the machine is "ready for anything".

https://i.postimg.cc/KjRhgzT8/CPU-Te...-Intel-PIU.gif

*******

You have two choices.

Take a look through the VMWare preferences and see if some
of this rubbish can be switched off.

If not, go VirtualBox.

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Windows 10, for some SKUs, has Hyper-V, but it requires
EPT too on the consumer OSes. The thing I remember reading,
is EPT somehow helped a VM access a video card, or somehow
helped with gameplay on a multi-use machine. Whereas on
a Windows Server OS, where no games are played, no special
optimization is required for the video card.

The BIOS will likely have a switch to turn Hyperthreading
on and off. As well as a VT-X switch. I don't remember
seeing a second switch to enable or disable EPT. And as
for the latest generations of rubbish security features
(one of which has been exploited by black hats!), I don't
know a thing about them. Apparently, one of the features
provides a "secure enclave" - once the black hats get
in there, they're "bulletproof" :-/ You can't make this
stuff up.

Paul
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Old March 10th 19, 01:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default trying to use VM under WMWare but cannot

JBI wrote:
On 3/9/19 4:02 PM, Michael Logies wrote:
Try an older VMWare Player version. I`m still on VMWare Player 12.5.9
because the newer ones lost compatibility to older processors.
Download of 12.5.9:
https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/det...524&rPId=20840




This is what I ended up doing, going with an older version. However,
the first trial program I installed did install ok, but refused to run I
assume because it somehow detected a virtual and not real environment.


The Neat Video Plugin does that. The plugin itself
isn't all that wonderful, but the installer is... amazing.
It detects VM environments and Linux WINE, and stops installation.

So the technology is available, to limit installation of
Windows software to only physical machines.

Paul
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Old March 10th 19, 12:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 19:06:04 -0500, Paul
wrote:

So the technology is available, to limit installation of
Windows software to only physical machines.


Not much technology... Search for system information in Windows. It
will show VMware.
Some virus don`t run in a VM to hide themselves from investigations...

Regards

M.
 




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