Didn't work

Well, after all my rushing for the Win10 deadline, I finally tried to
install it this morning and it wouldn't do it. It said my CPU was
inadequate. (NX) iirc. And my monitor was inadequate also! I feel
so inadequate.

I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

But the bigger problem is the CPU, but since the box is almost 12
years old, it's sort of not surprising. So how come it works so well
on 7 -- and it really does -- and they say it won't work on 10? Is
it a deal to sell hardware, or is there really something different.? I
think it's 2.8GHz with 4gig Ram. It's a Dell Dimension 4700.


BTW, I was done a week ago Tuesday, but couldn't get the internet
working. I thought the deadline was Thursday, but it was actually
Friday night at midnight---- Hawaiian time, which is 11AM here in EDT.
If I'd known I had 35 more hours I might have tried a little harder.

But I almost made it.

On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 09:24:17 -0400, Micky
wrote:


I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

A Dell P780, by Sony. Posts about it in Jan. 2001!!

I'll admit, it might not be as bright as it should be. Sometimes with
pictures I can't get the black and dark parts bright enough to see
details in them. Maybe once a week for 3 minutes this comes up.
Otherwise it's fine.

"Micky" wrote in message
...

Well, after all my rushing for the Win10 deadline, I finally tried to
install it this morning and it wouldn't do it. It said my CPU was
inadequate. (NX) iirc. And my monitor was inadequate also! I feel
so inadequate.

I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

But the bigger problem is the CPU, but since the box is almost 12
years old, it's sort of not surprising. So how come it works so well
on 7 -- and it really does -- and they say it won't work on 10? Is
it a deal to sell hardware, or is there really something different.? I
think it's 2.8GHz with 4gig Ram. It's a Dell Dimension 4700.


BTW, I was done a week ago Tuesday, but couldn't get the internet
working. I thought the deadline was Thursday, but it was actually
Friday night at midnight---- Hawaiian time, which is 11AM here in EDT.
If I'd known I had 35 more hours I might have tried a little harder.

But I almost made it.

I do computer work for my friends. Recently, my buddy John dropped off his
laptop and his desktop and asked me about installing 10 on both of them. My
reply, and my standard answer: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 09:40:09 -0400, "Thip" wrote:

"Micky" wrote in message
.. .

Well, after all my rushing for the Win10 deadline, I finally tried to
install it this morning and it wouldn't do it. It said my CPU was
inadequate. (NX) iirc. And my monitor was inadequate also! I feel
so inadequate.

I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

But the bigger problem is the CPU, but since the box is almost 12
years old, it's sort of not surprising. So how come it works so well
on 7 -- and it really does -- and they say it won't work on 10? Is
it a deal to sell hardware, or is there really something different.? I
think it's 2.8GHz with 4gig Ram. It's a Dell Dimension 4700.


BTW, I was done a week ago Tuesday, but couldn't get the internet
working. I thought the deadline was Thursday, but it was actually
Friday night at midnight---- Hawaiian time, which is 11AM here in EDT.
If I'd known I had 35 more hours I might have tried a little harder.

But I almost made it.

I do computer work for my friends. Recently, my buddy John dropped off his
laptop and his desktop and asked me about installing 10 on both of them. My
reply, and my standard answer: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I see your point but FWIW, this is fun for me. Plus how will I
learn if I don't try these things.

I had cloned the 7 partition so I could compare 7 and 10, for
curiosity if nothing else.

And I plan to clone my Vista partition, move it to the same
computer**, and install 7 over it to compare that with the current 7
partition.

And I'm keeping Vista until I'm satisfied with one of these things.

**Yes, I know there are hardware issues, but they're both Dell so that
might make them smaller.

Micky wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 09:24:17 -0400, Micky
wrote:

I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

A Dell P780, by Sony. Posts about it in Jan. 2001!!

I'll admit, it might not be as bright as it should be. Sometimes with
pictures I can't get the black and dark parts bright enough to see
details in them. Maybe once a week for 3 minutes this comes up.
Otherwise it's fine.

I took my Trinitron to the recycler last year. Weighed
around 80 pounds or so. It was stored in the basement,
and while the 80 pounds isn't that heavy, in the box it
was the full width of the stairwell, and there was hardly
room to get your hands on it to lift it. Nearly
killed me... :-)

And like yours, the tube intensity was dropping off.

The Trinitron can draw around 200W. Even if you blank
the screen, but maintain sync signals to the monitor,
it *still* draws 200W. And the power is proportional to
the resolution setting - 1280x1024 is detectably warmer
than 1024x768 on those monitors.

A small LCD can be 36W. And that difference adds up
over the years, on your electric bill. You need a
huge LCD screen, to get back to the 200W level (but
they eventually do get that high). If an LCD screen
is large enough, and has a high enough intensity rating,
it feels like an "infrared oven" on your face while working
in front of it. I noticed this while walking down
an aisle at Best Buy... one of the large LCD monitors
on display, would cook you on a hot day. The effect is
not noticeable on a 17" LCD monitor.

When you replace the Trinitron, you'll need to elevate
the new LCD, to get it to the ergonomic height. Top
of screen level with your eyes. I used a pile of (9) pieces
of 3/4" thick lumber to build a stand, as the monitor
stand does not extend like it should. Only some monitors
have proper height adjustment, and the others are fixed.
For the Trinitron, it only needed (2) pieces of 3/4"
wood, to elevate it properly. My monitor stand is
12"x12" square, and there's no chance of the
monitor stand falling over :-)

Paul

On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:51:09 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Micky wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 09:24:17 -0400, Micky
wrote:

I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

A Dell P780, by Sony. Posts about it in Jan. 2001!!

I'll admit, it might not be as bright as it should be. Sometimes with
pictures I can't get the black and dark parts bright enough to see
details in them. Maybe once a week for 3 minutes this comes up.
Otherwise it's fine.

I took my Trinitron to the recycler last year. Weighed
around 80 pounds or so. It was stored in the basement,
and while the 80 pounds isn't that heavy, in the box it
was the full width of the stairwell, and there was hardly
room to get your hands on it to lift it. Nearly
killed me... :-)

LOL. I can relate to that. Fortunately this stairway doesn't have a
wall on one side, but once I get to the first floor, the place is so
full of junk. I may have to clean before I can take the thing out.

And like yours, the tube intensity was dropping off.

The Trinitron can draw around 200W. Even if you blank
the screen, but maintain sync signals to the monitor,
it *still* draws 200W. And the power is proportional to

Oh, that's not good.

the resolution setting - 1280x1024 is detectably warmer
than 1024x768 on those monitors.

That's not good either! From my pov.

A small LCD can be 36W. And that difference adds up
over the years, on your electric bill. You need a
huge LCD screen, to get back to the 200W level (but
they eventually do get that high). If an LCD screen
is large enough, and has a high enough intensity rating,
it feels like an "infrared oven" on your face while working
in front of it. I noticed this while walking down
an aisle at Best Buy... one of the large LCD monitors
on display, would cook you on a hot day. The effect is
not noticeable on a 17" LCD monitor.

This sounds worse than a CRT!

When you replace the Trinitron, you'll need to elevate
the new LCD, to get it to the ergonomic height. Top
of screen level with your eyes. I used a pile of (9) pieces
of 3/4" thick lumber to build a stand, as the monitor
stand does not extend like it should. Only some monitors
have proper height adjustment, and the others are fixed.
For the Trinitron, it only needed (2) pieces of 3/4"
wood, to elevate it properly. My monitor stand is
12"x12" square, and there's no chance of the
monitor stand falling over :-)


I have a MasterPIece Plus, a box with switches for 4 things and
everything, under the monitor, but that's only 1 1/2". I used to use
the switches a lot more until the two adapter failures and
conversations here or XP convinced me I wasn't saving much.

But the 200 W for the monitor does sound like a problem to work on.
Paul

"Micky" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 09:40:09 -0400, "Thip" wrote:

"Micky" wrote in message
. ..

Well, after all my rushing for the Win10 deadline, I finally tried to
install it this morning and it wouldn't do it. It said my CPU was
inadequate. (NX) iirc. And my monitor was inadequate also! I feel
so inadequate.

I actually have a newer, thin-screen monitor, but I haven't installed
it because the current one is too heavy to move! Of course it's only
going to get heavier as I get older, and I probably could move it now
but there are all those wires in the back. Okay, only one almost
inaccessible wire. BTW, it's a Dell Trinitron at least 10 years old.

But the bigger problem is the CPU, but since the box is almost 12
years old, it's sort of not surprising. So how come it works so well
on 7 -- and it really does -- and they say it won't work on 10? Is
it a deal to sell hardware, or is there really something different.? I
think it's 2.8GHz with 4gig Ram. It's a Dell Dimension 4700.


BTW, I was done a week ago Tuesday, but couldn't get the internet
working. I thought the deadline was Thursday, but it was actually
Friday night at midnight---- Hawaiian time, which is 11AM here in EDT.
If I'd known I had 35 more hours I might have tried a little harder.

But I almost made it.

I do computer work for my friends. Recently, my buddy John dropped off
his
laptop and his desktop and asked me about installing 10 on both of them.
My
reply, and my standard answer: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I see your point but FWIW, this is fun for me. Plus how will I
learn if I don't try these things.

I had cloned the 7 partition so I could compare 7 and 10, for
curiosity if nothing else.

And I plan to clone my Vista partition, move it to the same
computer**, and install 7 over it to compare that with the current 7
partition.

And I'm keeping Vista until I'm satisfied with one of these things.

**Yes, I know there are hardware issues, but they're both Dell so that
might make them smaller.

I completely understand. I did the same thing. I didn't find W10 fun at
all, but it did have some good points.