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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make the samemistake again!)
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the
same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? |
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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)
On 15/12/15 17:34, Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? You are buying something for your grand kid so you should be asking your son if he knows anything about these games. Alternatively, ask your grand child to ask his friends what they have bought so that you can buy something similar for him. |
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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)
Oscar wrote:
What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? A laptop is a bad choice for a gaming machine, it will cost more to start with and have far fewer upgrade options in future (possibly none). |
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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make the same mistake again!)
You probably want to read up on reviews like these:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393552,00.asp And as Andy said, a laptop doesn't make sense. That's like asking which VW do you want for hauling stone. You don't want a VW. You want a truck that's built for that kind of job. The whole point of a Desktop is to have maximum functionality, power and ergonomics. Laptops are for convenience and sacrifice the other factors to get it. Then, of course, there's the question of why you're buying such an expensive item for kids. If it were me I'd tell them to get a paper route so they could afford to buy their gaming machine.... But that's another issue. |
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Hash: SHA256 On 2015-12-15 1:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote: Oscar wrote: What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? A laptop is a bad choice for a gaming machine, it will cost more to start with and have far fewer upgrade options in future (possibly none). Not true. Eurocom and MSI both make laptops which allow you to upgrade your GPU. The GTX 970M in my MSI GT72 for instance can be replaced if I am willing to pay for it though I don't see the point since the GPU can play every game I throw at it in 1080p with ultra settings. If a person is content with playing at 1080p, a gaming laptop purchased today should handle all content for at least four years. It's only if you want to play at higher resolutions that there are issues. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter Matthew 7:12: "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWcFz8AAoJEIwFfgf/rr+urIkH/joLuBmcHd3owL7Vg7HdizfI dxXQ6h1oFGtxVNLKmv8ai4nHRrndkjC90OJ75iEz6VlWV5JngB kEZQgtFN0TI+QW chiHUghw2kvkqc6sQZmgBlft6Oa/UwTrHJauxzxHGwWWnFEnVitvGepeUb+Q6Q8z WqKxd0DzjnLBCbva8A3MTqDfP8iE/BsSCQQQobPYNMiuqPXKPlAHh2jOjmpcbK0g N8N5HLGXYXnw+VykPfQvZ+vbzhD4UuQQrCmy0pTwL9AeL8tWd2 PrN8/0lVy1pkEZ noRSMR6jF4e/HSdBHkMRhfMMX9bt6IcO2lGUakk9ZcQgqEt0a4+iZ+7YG47YBK M= =prHo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:34:37 -0000 (UTC), Oscar wrote:
What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? Around 2.000 euro or more and don't buy a laptop, you want a desktop. Also, start saving because within 2 years or so you'll need to upgrade the hardware (¤¤¤). I'd buy him a Playstation 4. Fallout 4 will run just fine: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/fallout-4-ps4/ -- s|b |
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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)
Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? A laptop is not really a good choice for a gamer. A 5-7 year old may be happy with a laptop but a teen or older probably won't be as happy. As others have said, $2000 is a starting cost. If it must be a laptop, then check out an Alienware 15. Add $500-$1000 to the base cost of $1100. http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-15-r2/pd You may want to check into having someone build him a desktop gaming system. |
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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)
Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? Gaming laptops "can't stand the heat". They will fail in three or four years. Units with an MXM module, typically have the horsepower to play games. And as others have pointed out, they have a price point to match. You don't buy a laptop for $300, with Intel GPU, and expect miracles. You buy a heavy beast with one or two MXM modules inside it, and kiss all that money goodbye when it breaks. http://www.eurocom.com/ec/productsg(1)ec This one has two MXM slots, for overkill. I put a single 980M in it, and the price was $1891. http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,253,0)ec ******* And as a teaser on this page, "Fallout 4" is on one of the laptop screens :-) That's how you know you're on the right web page. Alienware used to be a boutique builder, who was bought out by Dell. So now Dell stands behind it. http://www.alienware.com/landings/laptops.aspx With a 980m, this one is $2119. http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-1...lienware-17-r3 You don't really need SLI, but even one MXM module and its nice separate GPU, is a start. If you wanted to run an external 4K monitor occasionally, then you'd throw more money at it (and look for the right port type on the exterior of the laptop). But the problem with the concept, is thermals. The thing gets hot, it's heavy, if you carry it around and torque the thing in normal usage, sooner or later (three/four years), you could be looking at problems. This isn't that old 6MHz laptop you used to own, that lasted 20 years. It's a fire breathing dragon. That's why people here, would look for a desktop. More maintainable. Room to add the cooling system of your choice. If you carry a $2119 laptop to school with the Alienware logo on the cover, you wouldn't even make it to the school front door, before a punk would knock you down and steal it. So now you have a laptop, that you have to pay a bully protection money when you take it to school :-) Paul |
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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)
Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? Another random thought. Allow 30 days of "planning time" for computer purchases. That's how long it takes to research and execute a purchase like this, and get the best price on it. If a product has just hit the manufacturing stage, there can also be delivery delays. But 30 days is how much time you should allocate for researching what it takes to play Fallout 4. The laptops are actually made by ODMs. For example, Clevo is an ODM. Other companies get these units, and put their branding on the outside. Not all companies can afford to build their own laptop frames, motherboards, from scratch. So when you look at the Eurocom products, not one of those is made in-house. They go to companies like Clevo and purchase a pallet full of them, then plug in the things you want in your custom build. I've made one purchase at Eurocom, and the product was actually a Clevo. You will not find Clevo written anywhere on the chassis (because I took mine apart :-) ), but occasionally you will find web articles, where the picture of a Clevo, matches what is in your hands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clevo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin...n_manufacturer "As of 2011, Taiwanese ODMs made ninety-four percent of all notebook computers." HTH, Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Oscar wrote: My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). But the problem with the concept, is thermals. The thing gets hot, it's heavy, if you carry it around and torque the thing in normal usage, sooner or later (three/four years), you could be looking at problems. This isn't that old 6MHz laptop you used to own, that lasted 20 years. It's a fire breathing dragon. That's why people here, would look for a desktop. More maintainable. Room to add the cooling system of your choice. To add to Paul NoSpam's comments, my floor model gamer machine doubles as a space heater. Great in the winter, not so good in the summer. The heat would quickly kill a laptop. |
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Hash: SHA256 On 2015-12-15 5:47 PM, Paul wrote: Oscar wrote: My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? Gaming laptops "can't stand the heat". They will fail in three or four years. Not the MSI models; they use a double cooling system which utilizes one fan for the CPU and another for the GPU. Of course, I'm referring to the GT72 model I own. You might be right about other gaming laptops though. Units with an MXM module, typically have the horsepower to play games. And as others have pointed out, they have a price point to match. You don't buy a laptop for $300, with Intel GPU, and expect miracles. You buy a heavy beast with one or two MXM modules inside it, and kiss all that money goodbye when it breaks. http://www.eurocom.com/ec/productsg(1)ec This one has two MXM slots, for overkill. I put a single 980M in it, and the price was $1891. http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,253,0)ec ******* And as a teaser on this page, "Fallout 4" is on one of the laptop screens :-) That's how you know you're on the right web page. Alienware used to be a boutique builder, who was bought out by Dell. So now Dell stands behind it. http://www.alienware.com/landings/laptops.aspx With a 980m, this one is $2119. http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-1...&model_id=alie nware-17-r3 You don't really need SLI, but even one MXM module and its nice separate GPU, is a start. If you wanted to run an external 4K monitor occasionally, then you'd throw more money at it (and look for the right port type on the exterior of the laptop). But the problem with the concept, is thermals. The thing gets hot, it's heavy, if you carry it around and torque the thing in normal usage, sooner or later (three/four years), you could be looking at problems. This isn't that old 6MHz laptop you used to own, that lasted 20 years. It's a fire breathing dragon. That's why people here, would look for a desktop. More maintainable. Room to add the cooling system of your choice. If you carry a $2119 laptop to school with the Alienware logo on the cover, you wouldn't even make it to the school front door, before a punk would knock you down and steal it. So now you have a laptop, that you have to pay a bully protection money when you take it to school :-) I bring my laptop to work every day and I doubt any of the people there would even dare to try to steal it from me. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter Matthew 7:12: "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWcKVlAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uD94H/2qFP+wRmH3HdL53URxriFGw 6ZZtwLMYULh8zosgvqh9nwyEfnUvQKAcPcFuX9YUPxxJ5j+3nA msryWRsCfQ/8ie fB7oxMol2RzY263ZZjVhus+JtSL8YzWQO9R6/02+rc11DFQEKaLJl/ySH0Ee8Y54 blF8Kjhs/tPVwFghrAQT7bRVixl0M6xNR1l7aEfWkZcDap03aEYA/QY0CZfF0Cbo 81jSlxjJxlsIlKh4sG/lSKmM1W/Y+SE5/rdjyPLOCk3CGB4Y8IyzqEFaaj148/PW 3bUMXxyBzTpKg2vU7kyWRtoE0N+liKHuH3Gw9nFhsz7gdK+g47 ka9jz2B0jwIsQ= =W8Vz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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On 12/15/2015 9:34 AM, Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? Xidax.com is the way to go.. excellent warranty and killer specs and all customizable.. I bought one of their desktops... gaming pc with a lifetime warranty.. If something dies it is replaced .. no questions asked! Laptops are I believe 2 years parts and labor guaranteed |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:34:37 -0000 (UTC), Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? The "Fallout 4" game is available in either Sony PlayStation 4, Microsoft XBox One, or computer. Since you'll be buying a new machine regardless, if they already have a PC/laptop, I'd recommend a gaming console instead of a computer. Preferably PlayStation 4. Keep the computer for other things. The reason is that a gaming console will guarantee that the game (for that gaming console) will work. And it'd take the least effort to setup the game or any new game. PC/laptop computer is different. It's basically a general purpose computing machine. It can do almost anything, but a specialized machine (non PC/laptop) will do better or much better. It'd take more (and up to frustating) effort to setup a game, *and* it may not work smoothly or not work at all. And it would cost considerably more for a gaming computer than a gaming console, for nowadays games. Considering that tech devices tend to get obsolete rather quikly. |
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On 15/12/2015 18:34, Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the same mistake again!). Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back). So I don't want to make both those mistakes again. This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago. What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games? You asked about a "gaming" machine, and you got replies about it. They explained why a dedicated gaming console would be better value for money than a laptop. That's all fine and dandy, but I wonder: is your grandkid going to play all day, and do nothing else with that machine? Hmm. I guess they are going to use it for lots of other activities too. So, maybe a computer would not be bad choice after all, as long as you have the dosh for it |
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