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Synchronizing Time on My Local Network
I have two Win machines and a Linux machine on a network. The Linux machine needs
some fairly accurate time. It runs 7/24 but has no access to the internet. I'm on the Win XP machine every day, and would like to use it as a time source. How can I get the time synched on the local net through it at least once a day? I've noticed the clock on my XP machine is a lot more accurate than on the Linux machine. Is there some sort of XP time synching going on that I'm not aware of? -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews |
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Synchronizing Time on My Local Network
"W. Watson" wrote in message nk.net... I have two Win machines and a Linux machine on a network. The Linux machine needs some fairly accurate time. It runs 7/24 but has no access to the internet. I'm on the Win XP machine every day, and would like to use it as a time source. How can I get the time synched on the local net through it at least once a day? I've noticed the clock on my XP machine is a lot more accurate than on the Linux machine. Is there some sort of XP time synching going on that I'm not aware of? -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews ===================================== Maybe this will work for your Linux box too. http://thepcyoubuy.com/XPtime.htm http://windows.about.com/library/tips/bltip214.htm ===================================== |
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Synchronizing Time on My Local Network
XPUSER wrote:
"W. Watson" wrote in message nk.net... I have two Win machines and a Linux machine on a network. The Linux machine needs some fairly accurate time. It runs 7/24 but has no access to the internet. I'm on the Win XP machine every day, and would like to use it as a time source. How can I get the time synched on the local net through it at least once a day? I've noticed the clock on my XP machine is a lot more accurate than on the Linux machine. Is there some sort of XP time synching going on that I'm not aware of? -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews ===================================== Maybe this will work for your Linux box too. http://thepcyoubuy.com/XPtime.htm http://windows.about.com/library/tips/bltip214.htm ===================================== Thanks. I wonder if that will synch everything on my local network. I suspect not. -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews |
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Synchronizing Time on My Local Network
W. Watson wrote:
I have two Win machines and a Linux machine on a network. The Linux machine needs some fairly accurate time. It runs 7/24 but has no access to the internet. I'm on the Win XP machine every day, and would like to use it as a time source. How can I get the time synched on the local net through it at least once a day? I've noticed the clock on my XP machine is a lot more accurate than on the Linux machine. Is there some sort of XP time synching going on that I'm not aware of? I just discovered two descriptions of how to set the clocks via accurate time using the present NTP on XP. Which one is correct? 1. http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1117/. 2. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314054#EXTERNAL. Click the second line under INTRO... for external setting. This was perhaps an easy question. I suspect 2 is the wiser choice, since 1 can set the refresh time. The complexity of 2 suggests that someone should have written a program to do the steps. -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews |
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Sooner Al wrote:
You also might try this small program that can act as a time server for a network. I have used it on Windows Me machines in the past for just this purpose. http://vps.arachnoid.com/abouttime/ Note that I have not run this on a XP box...so, as always, YMMV... Otherwise look at this page for alternatives... http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq...ftwarelist.htm Personally, I could never get my XP Pro box to actually act as a NTP time server as noted in your two links... Mr. Watson - man ntp. If you want your Windows box to act as the timeserver, tell the Linux box to use Windows as the timeserver. You can also tell Windows what timeserver to use. In any case, set one of the machines to synchronize with an outside public timeserver and the other one to synchronize from the internal timeserver. Look at /etc/ntp.conf. Malke -- MS-MVP Windows User/Shell Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic" |
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Malke wrote:
Sooner Al wrote: You also might try this small program that can act as a time server for a network. I have used it on Windows Me machines in the past for just this purpose. http://vps.arachnoid.com/abouttime/ Note that I have not run this on a XP box...so, as always, YMMV... Otherwise look at this page for alternatives... http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq...ftwarelist.htm Personally, I could never get my XP Pro box to actually act as a NTP time server as noted in your two links... Mr. Watson - man ntp. If you want your Windows box to act as the timeserver, tell the Linux box to use Windows as the timeserver. You can also tell Windows what timeserver to use. In any case, set one of the machines to synchronize with an outside public timeserver and the other one to synchronize from the internal timeserver. Look at /etc/ntp.conf. Malke Thanks. I'll take a look; however, your comment about "never get XP Pro..." is a little disconcerting. With a little more exploration, I came across http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/all/techref/en-us/Default.asp?url=/Resources/Documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/techref/en-us/w2k3tr_times_tools.asp. It has some time tools, but at the moment it baffles me why instead of the 9 complex steps outlined in item 2. above, some of the tools at this site couldn't be used to set up Win XP as a time server. For example: W32tm /register Registers the time service to run as a service and adds default configuration to the registry. W32tm /unregister Unregisters the time service and removes all configuration information from the registry. See the commands described at the top of the page cited. One would think MS would supply some program to do all this. It's sort of like applying a patch for removing a virus. Maybe reading W32tm /? will help. -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews |
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W. Watson wrote:
Malke wrote: Mr. Watson - man ntp. If you want your Windows box to act as the timeserver, tell the Linux box to use Windows as the timeserver. You can also tell Windows what timeserver to use. In any case, set one of the machines to synchronize with an outside public timeserver and the other one to synchronize from the internal timeserver. Look at /etc/ntp.conf. Malke Thanks. I'll take a look; however, your comment about "never get XP Pro..." is a little disconcerting. With a little more exploration, I came across http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation /WindowsServ/2003/all/techref/en-us/Default.asp?url=/Resources/ Documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/techref/en-us/w2k3tr_times_tools.asp. It has some time tools, but at the moment it baffles me why instead of the 9 complex steps outlined in item 2. above, some of the tools at this site couldn't be used to set up Win XP as a time server. For example: W32tm /register Registers the time service to run as a service and adds default configuration to the registry. W32tm /unregister Unregisters the time service and removes all configuration information from the registry. See the commands described at the top of the page cited. One would think MS would supply some program to do all this. It's sort of like applying a patch for removing a virus. Maybe reading W32tm /? will help. My comment about "never get XP Pro"? I never said anything like that. I have 4 XP Pro boxen running here. I think your posting style has confused who said what. If you don't want to deal with setting up a timeserver on the Windows end, then do as I suggested and set your Linux box to get the time from an external source. You will need to have the ntp service running, of course. As I said, man ntp. Malke -- MS-MVP Windows User/Shell Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic" |
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Malke wrote:
W. Watson wrote: Malke wrote: Mr. Watson - man ntp. If you want your Windows box to act as the timeserver, tell the Linux box to use Windows as the timeserver. You can also tell Windows what timeserver to use. In any case, set one of the machines to synchronize with an outside public timeserver and the other one to synchronize from the internal timeserver. Look at /etc/ntp.conf. Malke Thanks. I'll take a look; however, your comment about "never get XP Pro..." is a little disconcerting. With a little more exploration, I came across http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation /WindowsServ/2003/all/techref/en-us/Default.asp?url=/Resources/ Documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/techref/en-us/w2k3tr_times_tools.asp. It has some time tools, but at the moment it baffles me why instead of the 9 complex steps outlined in item 2. above, some of the tools at this site couldn't be used to set up Win XP as a time server. For example: W32tm /register Registers the time service to run as a service and adds default configuration to the registry. W32tm /unregister Unregisters the time service and removes all configuration information from the registry. See the commands described at the top of the page cited. One would think MS would supply some program to do all this. It's sort of like applying a patch for removing a virus. Maybe reading W32tm /? will help. My comment about "never get XP Pro"? I never said anything like that. I have 4 XP Pro boxen running here. I think your posting style has confused who said what. If you don't want to deal with setting up a timeserver on the Windows end, then do as I suggested and set your Linux box to get the time from an external source. You will need to have the ntp service running, of course. As I said, man ntp. Malke Pardon me. It was the fellow who responded just before you. Yes, I'm proceeding on the path of getting the Win XP machine to fire up NTP and time synch the local network off of it several times a day. When I get that squared away, I'll get Linux into the picture. Nevertheless, the win32tp operation seems a little bizarre, as I mentioned above. -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews |
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W. Watson wrote:
Pardon me. It was the fellow who responded just before you. Yes, I'm proceeding on the path of getting the Win XP machine to fire up NTP and time synch the local network off of it several times a day. When I get that squared away, I'll get Linux into the picture. Nevertheless, the win32tp operation seems a little bizarre, as I mentioned above. Doesn't seem strange to me, but whatever. You might consider snipping your sig - it's a bit long for Usenet. Whatever machine you use, make sure you use the right level time server and pick a few in your area of the country. Here are a few links that might be helpful: http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq...e-servers.html Malke -- MS-MVP Windows User/Shell Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic" |
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You quoted me wrong... I said...
"Personally, I could never get my XP Pro box to actually act as a NTP time server..." ....not... "...never get XP Pro..." -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... "W. Watson" wrote in message k.net... ---SNIP--- Thanks. I'll take a look; however, your comment about "never get XP Pro..." is a little disconcerting. With a little more exploration, I came across http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/all/techref/en-us/Default.asp?url=/Resources/Documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/techref/en-us/w2k3tr_times_tools.asp. It has some time tools, but at the moment it baffles me why instead of the 9 complex steps outlined in item 2. above, some of the tools at this site couldn't be used to set up Win XP as a time server. For example: W32tm /register Registers the time service to run as a service and adds default configuration to the registry. W32tm /unregister Unregisters the time service and removes all configuration information from the registry. See the commands described at the top of the page cited. One would think MS would supply some program to do all this. It's sort of like applying a patch for removing a virus. Maybe reading W32tm /? will help. -- Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet (Formerly Homo habilis, erectus, heidelbergensis and now sapiens) "I'm not going to die. It would ruin my image." -- Jack La Lanne, 90 year old early TV health & exercise promoter Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews |
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