can I reboot and update?

Hi All,

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Problem: when I am doing remote support and no one is
on site to power it back up, I have to stop what I am
doing and wait for someone to come it.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Many thanks,
-T

On 11/1/2014 9:04 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Problem: when I am doing remote support and no one is
on site to power it back up, I have to stop what I am
doing and wait for someone to come it.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Many thanks,
-T
have them implement WOL

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:04:30 -0700, Todd wrote:

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Problem: when I am doing remote support and no one is
on site to power it back up, I have to stop what I am
doing and wait for someone to come it.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Don't those updates get installed if you simply trigger a reboot?

shutdown /r


--

Char Jackson

On 11/01/2014 06:12 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 11/1/2014 9:04 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Problem: when I am doing remote support and no one is
on site to power it back up, I have to stop what I am
doing and wait for someone to come it.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Many thanks,
-T
have them implement WOL


what is wol?

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:27:15 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:04:30 -0700, Todd wrote:

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Don't those updates get installed if you simply trigger a reboot?

shutdown /r

That would have been my answer too. Todd, if you try it could you
report back and let us know whether that installed the updates? I'm
curious.

I just tried a "shutdown /r" in an RDP session on my work computer,
and the command is honored,(*) but I had no pending updates so it
doesn't answer Todd's question for certain.

(*) Well, a message appeared on screen saying that Windows would shut
down in under a minute, and I would be logged off. I was indeed
logged off, and after waiting a while i was able to log back on, but
I don't know of any way to be certain that a reboot actually
happened. It's like the light turning off when the refrigerator door
is closed. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On 11/02/2014 01:19 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:27:15 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:04:30 -0700, Todd wrote:

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Don't those updates get installed if you simply trigger a reboot?

shutdown /r

That would have been my answer too. Todd, if you try it could you
report back and let us know whether that installed the updates? I'm
curious.

I just tried a "shutdown /r" in an RDP session on my work computer,
and the command is honored,(*) but I had no pending updates so it
doesn't answer Todd's question for certain.

(*) Well, a message appeared on screen saying that Windows would shut
down in under a minute, and I would be logged off. I was indeed
logged off, and after waiting a while i was able to log back on, but
I don't know of any way to be certain that a reboot actually
happened. It's like the light turning off when the refrigerator door
is closed. :-)


Hi Stan and Char,

I can always see what happens. On the computer in question,
I need to set up an automatic reboot in the middle of the night
using the "shutdown /r" option. If this were to also install
those updates, then cool. After a few days, I can always
check and see if they ere installed.

Thank you for helping me with this.

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:27:15 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:04:30 -0700, Todd wrote:

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Don't those updates get installed if you simply trigger a reboot?

shutdown /r

That would have been my answer too. Todd, if you try it could you
report back and let us know whether that installed the updates? I'm
curious.

I just tried a "shutdown /r" in an RDP session on my work computer,
and the command is honored,(*) but I had no pending updates so it
doesn't answer Todd's question for certain.

(*) Well, a message appeared on screen saying that Windows would shut
down in under a minute, and I would be logged off. I was indeed
logged off, and after waiting a while i was able to log back on, but
I don't know of any way to be certain that a reboot actually
happened. It's like the light turning off when the refrigerator door
is closed. :-)

You can look in the event logs to see if it actually rebooted or not.
There'll be a number of entries in System log, one of the first for that
timeframe being Kernel-General with the message "The operating system
started at system time ‎2014‎-‎11‎-‎02T11:06:22.125600000Z." Your time may
be different ;-)
--
SC Tom

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 07:46:19 -0500, SC Tom wrote:

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Well, a message appeared on screen saying that Windows would shut
down in under a minute, and I would be logged off. I was indeed
logged off, and after waiting a while i was able to log back on, but
I don't know of any way to be certain that a reboot actually
happened. It's like the light turning off when the refrigerator door
is closed. :-)

You can look in the event logs to see if it actually rebooted or not.
There'll be a number of entries in System log, one of the first for that
timeframe being Kernel-General with the message "The operating system
started at system time ?2014?-?11?-?02T11:06:22.125600000Z." Your time may
be different ;-)

Why didn't I think of that!? Of course: Event Viewer. Thanks!

It took some scrolling, but eventually I did find the shutdown and
startup messages in the System log, so that's consistent with the
message I saw.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

Todd wrote:
On 11/01/2014 06:12 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 11/1/2014 9:04 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Problem: when I am doing remote support and no one is
on site to power it back up, I have to stop what I am
doing and wait for someone to come it.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Many thanks,
-T
have them implement WOL


what is wol?
wake on lan

On 11/02/2014 07:23 AM, Smiles wrote:
Todd wrote:
On 11/01/2014 06:12 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 11/1/2014 9:04 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

I do a lot of remote support. A lot of the time I
see the indicator that tells me that there are updates
that will install when I shut down.

Problem: when I am doing remote support and no one is
on site to power it back up, I have to stop what I am
doing and wait for someone to come it.

Is there a way I can install these updates with a
"restart" instead of a "shutdown"?

Many thanks,
-T
have them implement WOL


what is wol?
wake on lan

I did know that. I just spaced. Thank you.

In this situation, it would never go to sleep.

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 07:46:19 -0500, SC Tom wrote:

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Well, a message appeared on screen saying that Windows would shut
down in under a minute, and I would be logged off. I was indeed
logged off, and after waiting a while i was able to log back on, but
I don't know of any way to be certain that a reboot actually
happened. It's like the light turning off when the refrigerator door
is closed. :-)

You can look in the event logs to see if it actually rebooted or not.
There'll be a number of entries in System log, one of the first for that
timeframe being Kernel-General with the message "The operating system
started at system time ?2014?-?11?-?02T11:06:22.125600000Z." Your time
may
be different ;-)

Why didn't I think of that!? Of course: Event Viewer. Thanks!

It took some scrolling, but eventually I did find the shutdown and
startup messages in the System log, so that's consistent with the
message I saw.

Back in my working life, we had a number of servers that were set up to
reboot each night for pretty much the same reason Todd posted- updates,
pushing out updates (not necessarily MS) to the workstations, etc. The
reboots were staggered so that the network was never completely down, and
the logs were checked in the morning to make sure the updates and reboots
occurred.

One of the IT guys at another location wrote a script that would search the
event logs, copy the appropriate lines to a text file, and save that file to
a specific location. All I had to do then was go through the text file to
make sure each server did what it was supposed to do. Much easier than going
through all the event logs :-) He wrote it back when we had NT4.0, but it
worked with Server 2003 and 2008. I retired in '08 so I don't if the company
moved up to Server 2012 or not, or if the script still worked with it.
--
SC Tom