APC UPS

I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?

Did you install the Agent software on the clients?
I am not sure if Hibernation is an option.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

"jeff" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?

David Vair wrote:
Did you install the Agent software on the clients?
I am not sure if Hibernation is an option.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

"jeff" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?


What is the Agent software?
The included CD has no option for this.

Thanks for replying.

"jeff" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Vair wrote:
Did you install the Agent software on the clients?
I am not sure if Hibernation is an option.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

"jeff" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?


What is the Agent software?
The included CD has no option for this.

Thanks for replying.

You put the software CD that came with the UPS in the machines that are attached to the UPS, not
just plugged in but attached by the serial cable. The CD will have different options to install,
you need the agent software running on machines that you want to have the power controlled from the
main server. Check the APC site for updated program. Then from the machine running the console you
should see the agent machines.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

David Vair wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Vair wrote:
Did you install the Agent software on the clients?
I am not sure if Hibernation is an option.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

"jeff" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?


What is the Agent software?
The included CD has no option for this.

Thanks for replying.

You put the software CD that came with the UPS in the machines that are attached to the UPS, not
just plugged in but attached by the serial cable. The CD will have different options to install,
you need the agent software running on machines that you want to have the power controlled from the
main server. Check the APC site for updated program. Then from the machine running the console you
should see the agent machines.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

Sorry if I'm being obtuse--

I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

I have the UPS communicating via USB cable to a WIn 2003 Server.
I have two client PC's powered by the UPS as well.

I have a batch script that will send a hibernate command to all
clients, which works, but I need to have a trigger to launch it. There
is no provision in the PowerChute software to allow launching external
events upon a "power out" condition.

All I'm looking for is a way to detect that "power out" condition on
the server, so that I can then execute a batch file.

I don't care if APC's software is not up to the task; I'm open to any
solution.
Thanks.

Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...
I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

Key word - PERSONAL in the Edition.

If you want more functionality you need different software.

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OK.
Any suggestions???

Yes. The APC website is what you want. There are many downloads available.
Some are free, others you have to buy. The software you need will likely not
work with your UPS. There "are" UPS systems made for multiple computers -
cost thousands instead of hundreds.

You get what you pay for.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"jeff" wrote in message
oups.com...

Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...
I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

Key word - PERSONAL in the Edition.

If you want more functionality you need different software.

--


remove 999 in order to email me

OK.
Any suggestions???

Leythos wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...
I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

Key word - PERSONAL in the Edition.

If you want more functionality you need different software.

--


remove 999 in order to email me

OK.
Any suggestions???

Two:

1) Get a proper Usenet aware client to interface with Usenet (as yours
does not properly snip properly formed signature lines)

2) Contact APC, they will know what works with your UPS.

Actually, another one:

3) Always research the product before you purchase it.

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Sorry, but I refuse to accept this.
Are you seriously telling me that I must pay hundreds/thousands for
such a simple solution?

Evidently there is no solution readily available, but I can't believe
that I'm the only one seeking this.

And to you all-

What is this?

"If you can't buy it, it doesn't exist"?


There are many ways to skin a cat.
The product is NOT the problem!

It is the "power down" signal I need to trap.
I'll find an answer to this and report back, while I think outside the
box.

Jeff,

People have been hooking up batteries with DC to AC converters to their
computers for over 20 years.

Others have already thought outside the box, and designed - and sell - the
hardware necessary to do what you need. It's called a server UPS system and
can handle from a few computers to computer farms. That's how the phones
stay up during a power outage.

I heartedly suggest you get the necessary hardware (and associated
software), instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.

Of course, if you are just viewing this as a personal challenge, have at it.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"jeff" wrote in message
oups.com...

Leythos wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...
I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

Key word - PERSONAL in the Edition.

If you want more functionality you need different software.

--


remove 999 in order to email me

OK.
Any suggestions???

Two:

1) Get a proper Usenet aware client to interface with Usenet (as yours
does not properly snip properly formed signature lines)

2) Contact APC, they will know what works with your UPS.

Actually, another one:

3) Always research the product before you purchase it.

--


remove 999 in order to email me


Sorry, but I refuse to accept this.
Are you seriously telling me that I must pay hundreds/thousands for
such a simple solution?

Evidently there is no solution readily available, but I can't believe
that I'm the only one seeking this.

And to you all-

What is this?

"If you can't buy it, it doesn't exist"?


There are many ways to skin a cat.
The product is NOT the problem!

It is the "power down" signal I need to trap.
I'll find an answer to this and report back, while I think outside the
box.

if all computers are plugged into the usp, just install the software on each.







"jeff" wrote in message ups.com...
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?

They are probably not all communicating with the UPS as its a personal one with only 1 communication port. Just plugging in the electrical doesn't make the computer aware that its hooked to an UPS.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+

"mikeyhsd" wrote in message ...
if all computers are plugged into the usp, just install the software on each.







"jeff" wrote in message ups.com...
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?

Leythos wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...
I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

Key word - PERSONAL in the Edition.

If you want more functionality you need different software.

--


I have no intention of arguing with you.

APC doesn't provide a clear solution, since they want to sell more
product.
You don't provide any solution, since you have no creative input,
except to answer to what's commercially available.

Oh, and by the way.

That reference to "learning about the internet".
You haven't a clue.

A viable solution already exists, albeit not with APC; a simple script
to monitor the USB port's change of state provides the necessary input
to launch a secondary event.

I'll post here when perfected.





remove 999 in order to email me

OK.
Any suggestions???

Two:

1) Get a proper Usenet aware client to interface with Usenet (as yours
does not properly snip properly formed signature lines)

2) Contact APC, they will know what works with your UPS.

Actually, another one:

3) Always research the product before you purchase it.


Sorry, but I refuse to accept this.
Are you seriously telling me that I must pay hundreds/thousands for
such a simple solution?

No, but you didn't look at what you were doing before you made the
purchase. You can easily purchase the software from APC, you could have
purchased a larger UPS that comes with the software for free, you could
have purchased a different vendors software, you could do a lot of
things.

Evidently there is no solution readily available, but I can't believe
that I'm the only one seeking this.

I do not know of a free solution available for the infrastructure you
have stated.

Most of us, when wanting to use a UPS with more than one computer, check
to see if the UPS we're purchasing comes with multiple interfaces,
checks to see if the software offers remote shutdown service, etc...
It's how good technicians get the job done properly.

And to you all-

What is this?

"If you can't buy it, it doesn't exist"?

No, you could roll your own, but it's not worth the cost/time, as time
is not free. If you had done even a little research about multiple
devices on a UPS, even read the APC site, or called APC, you would have
already known that there is no free way, to do this (as time and parts
actually cost).

There are many ways to skin a cat.
The product is NOT the problem!

It is the "power down" signal I need to trap.

The device has either a USB or Serial connection, while you can build a
interface for it, APC already has one you can add-on, and they even have
software you can purchase as an upgrade that will do what you want.

I'll find an answer to this and report back, while I think outside the
box.

We were thinking outside the box before you learned about the Internet
and way before you learned about UPS systems, the difference is most of
us know when to use a quality solution provided by someone else instead
of ranting about it not doing something it was not spec'd to do.

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Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Leythos wrote:
In article . com,
says...
I bought an APC Back-UPS RS 900, which came with an APC PowerChute
Personal Edition CD.

Key word - PERSONAL in the Edition.

If you want more functionality you need different software.

--


I have no intention of arguing with you.

APC doesn't provide a clear solution, since they want to sell more
product.

Yes, they do provide clear solutions, you just don't want to pay for
them.

You don't provide any solution, since you have no creative input,
except to answer to what's commercially available.

On the contrary, I provided a viable solution, but you're too cheap to
use it.

Oh, and by the way.

That reference to "learning about the internet".
You haven't a clue.

I was coding device drivers before you even got your first computer
sonny.

A viable solution already exists, albeit not with APC; a simple script
to monitor the USB port's change of state provides the necessary input
to launch a secondary event.

I'll post here when perfected.

Which may or may not work based on the model of UPS that you use it
with, and may or may not work with any given system.

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Interesting that with all your self-proclaimed expertise and knowledge,
you still provide no solution.
Code an interrupt to the UPS's notification of "power out" status to
execute an external event, if you're so erudite.
Otherwise, you're just a salesman.

jeff wrote:
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?


I believe that the Belkin UPS provide what you want. However, the APC
home additions do not.

-- Jeff Barnett

On 04/09/2006 "jeff" wrote:
I just purchased a new APC UPS and have installed the included
Powerchute software on the server; there are two additional clients
powered by this UPS.

When power is interrupted, I'd like to have the server send a hibernate
command to the clients before it hibernates itself.

Unfortunately, the APC software has no provision for this, no doubt
hoping to sell more units.

Has anyone found a solution?


Firstm you bought a Back-UPS model. Unless it also has a "Smart Slot", you
may not be able to expand the UPS monitoring to other PCs.

I know that APC also sells their Smart-UPS models, which most have the "Smart
Slot" feature where you can install am Interface expander to monitor up to 3
PCs. They also sell a bigger Interface expander (up to 9 PCs ??)
Unfortunately, these Interface expanders usually require a serial (COM) port,
which is slowly disappearing, for each connection.

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Y.