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Are there any good, free newsservers?
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Jeff T typed: Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. -- Bill Asus EeePC 701 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows 2000 SP4 - OE5.5 - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 |
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"BillW50" wrote in message ... In , Jeff T typed: Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. -- Bill Asus EeePC 701 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows 2000 SP4 - OE5.5 - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 I tried news.eternal-september.org but all I could get were news.eternal-september.org newsgroups. Jeff |
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Jeff T wrote: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , Jeff T typed: Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. I tried news.eternal-september.org but all I could get were news.eternal-september.org newsgroups. Jeff That is because you need to create an account at: https://www.eternal-september.org/Re...hp?language=en Then ensure the following: https://www.eternal-september.org/in...p?showpage=faq -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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writes: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , Jeff T typed: Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. If you want binary 'groups, Teranews costs three dollars something to register with, and is then free for ever after. -- Bill Asus EeePC 701 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows 2000 SP4 - OE5.5 - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 I tried news.eternal-september.org but all I could get were news.eternal-september.org newsgroups. Jeff That means you didn't complete the registration (or whatever they call it) process. They provide a newsserver that gives access to their own 'groups without any registration ("I'm only seeing the e-s 'groups" is one of the FAQs on the site). When you register, they send you an email containing a link you have to click on (once); this whole process can take a few hours when they're busy. Or, you might not have set up your news client to supply username and password (or have entered them incorrectly) when collecting; I think that also gives access to the e-s 'groups only. I don't know what e-s's business model is. In case it suddenly isn't, I know lots of people who are very satisfied with NIN, alias "the Berlin server", which though not free is something trivial like ten euros a year. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "He hasn't one redeeming vice." - Oscar Wilde |
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On 3/25/2012 8:15 AM PT, BillW50 typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. I don't think there are any free binary news servers. -- "Cheerios: Hula-hoops for ants." --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. |
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On 3/25/2012 8:15 AM PT, BillW50 typed: Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. I don't think there are any free binary news servers. If and when they exist, they usually have a transfer limit per day. Like 50MB. Some users change accounts, to try to abuse such a privilege, which may be why even the most feeble attempts to offer a free binary service, have to stop. If a person has a 200GB per month internet cap, and uses that to do nothing but USENET binaries, I think you can see why the operator of a free service, would be in for a very expensive Internet bill at the end of the month. Ten thousand leeches at 200GB per, would be a pretty serious monthly bill for the server operator. And that's where the 50MB per day cap idea comes in. Some of these binary servers, operate as "test servers". Say you run a commercial service, and a new version of INN software becomes available. You load it on the "free" server first, and ten thousand leeches check the server software for stability for you. That's the justification for running a free service - it's for the free testing it provides. If the new server software is stable, then it can be loaded on the "paying customer" server. And thus, the "free loader" server will be up and down, as software changes are made. Paul |
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:00 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:
In , Jeff T typed: Are there any good, free newsservers? I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary newsgroups, then that would be a bad one. I've tried eternal-september several times. They were originally mozerella, and worked, but were down quite often, and I had to sign up all over again when they lost the system records. When they switched to eternal-september, my account was lost again. I had to sign up once again, and shortly after that one would not work. Again I signed up and used a different name. That lasted a month or two before I could not connect again. That's when I gave up on them. There's no reason a person should have to keep signing up over and over, every few months or less. I now use AIOE. It works well 99.9% of the time. When it goes down, it's usually back up in several hours. There are no binaries, but I dont think any free servers have them. The newsgroups are nearly dead anyhow. Usenet has always been 80% of my internet usage, and there are few newsgroups that have any activity anymore, and most that do have been taken over by idiots. There are so few useful newsgroups anymore that I got rid of my costly high speed internet and went back to low cost dialup from my phone company. I occasionally use the web for some research or general information like an encyclopedia, but much of the web is nothing more than advertising and crap. In my opinion, the internet has gone down the ****ter, and is not worth paying more than a few bucks a month to have. My guess is that all the former usenet users have either partially abandoned the internet like myself, completely left it, or have gone to that piece of privacy invasive Facebook, which I would not recommend to my worst enemy. But like everything good, it all turns to **** in the end. In the 70's the CB radio was a lot of fun, then that went the same way as the internet is now. In another couple years the internet will only be used by annoying assholes and businesses who charge for everything you want to do online. Hell, around the holidays I was looking for some clipart and every site wanted me to pay as much as $5 for one picture. Heck, 5 years ago there were whole libraries of clipart for free on the web. I just want to my local library, took out a few clipart CDs and copied them to my computer for future use. As far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead. Facebook will replace it, and no one will be anonymous anymore. When these machines start peering into my home and private life, it's time to move on to another hobby. |
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And it came to pass that richard2 delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~ Heck, 5 years ago there were whole libraries of clipart for free on the web. I just want to my local library, took out a few clipart CDs and copied them to my computer for future use. http://cd.textfiles.com/ has at least a couple clipart CDs in its "shovelware" archive. Every single file up there for download. Best to use wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ to get anything from that part of the site en masse, since downloading everything item-by-item is incredibly tedious. As far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead. Facebook will replace it, and no one will be anonymous anymore. When these machines start peering into my home and private life, it's time to move on to another hobby. F???book and Google (the latter especially) are cancer. They are the virulent, malignant cancerous tumours spreading about the Internet, engulfing and infecting every single thing they touch. They consume resources and transform the underlying makeup of unique sites to that of itself, if not popping up like tumours or growths on other sites (e.g. in the form of search bars, sidebar "widgets", ads, etc.) They weaken and compromise the integrity and stability of the sites that have been infected by them. If there ever was one "super computer virus", either of those sites would have to be it. So, that's the state of the Internet these days. Pretty depressing, but I guess that's just the way it has to be. -- MotoFox Originator of the word "enubulous" ....!i84w!exit210!304senye!motofox |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:59:17 +0100, MotoFox
confucius-say@enlightenment!to!him!lead!it!for!bangpath!foll ow!man!wise.UUCP wrote: http://cd.textfiles.com/ has at least a couple clipart CDs in its "shovelware" archive. Every single file up there for download. Best to use wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ to get anything from that part of the site en masse, since downloading everything item-by-item is incredibly tedious. That looks like an excellent site for clipart. But you lost me on this wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ I know you're saying to use this to get the whole collection, but where do I type these commands? This looks like unix or dos codes. I went to the site with firefox, is there someplace in FF to enter these commands? Thanks |
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| That looks like an excellent site for clipart.
| But you lost me on this | wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ | | I know you're saying to use this to get the whole collection, but where | do I type these commands? This looks like unix or dos codes. I went to | the site with firefox, is there someplace in FF to enter these commands? | I think it's supposed to be a hip, command-liner way of saying "scrape" the whole thing with an auto-downloader. (Real men don't use GUIs. I know you said that you just want these images for your own use, but these files still may be illegal to download. I found a "10000 photos" collection that seems to be a match for a cheap CD collection I bought many years ago. Besides the fact that the photos were of terrible quality, there was a ridiculous license that said I couldn't use the images commercially and could only print them onto 25 cards at most. I don't remember all the details now, but the license was so petty that I don't doubt it also said something to the effect that one has no right to use the images if one didn't buy the CD directly. I used to collect a lot of graphics and sounds from British magaizine CDs, too. Unfortuantely, nearly all of it was just cheap junk. |
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I've tried eternal-september several times. They were originally mozerella, and worked, but were down quite often, and I had to sign up all over again when they lost the system records. When they switched to eternal-september, my account was lost again. I had to sign up once again, and shortly after that one would not work. Again I signed up and used a different name. That lasted a month or two before I could not connect again. That's when I gave up on them. There's no reason a person should have to keep signing up over and over, every few months or less. Very surprising to me. I've used them for over a year now, I think, with never a hitch. What I don't get is why they do it. What's in it for them? -- Tim Slattery |
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Tim Slattery wrote:
wrote: I've tried eternal-september several times. They were originally mozerella, and worked, but were down quite often, and I had to sign up all over again when they lost the system records. When they switched to eternal-september, my account was lost again. I had to sign up once again, and shortly after that one would not work. Again I signed up and used a different name. That lasted a month or two before I could not connect again. That's when I gave up on them. There's no reason a person should have to keep signing up over and over, every few months or less. Very surprising to me. I've used them for over a year now, I think, with never a hitch. What I don't get is why they do it. What's in it for them? I too have had very good service even when it was called Mozerella. And why they do it? Probably the same reason many of us ran free BBS with Fidonet access. Users paid the local phone company for a local call and we operators paid for all of the long distance telephone calls. Not everybody is out to make a buck. ;-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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