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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
These are progams that ran fine under x86 Windows 10 Pro. So the drivers would have been written for x86. One of these manages the function keys on the computer and would have been written for x86 Vista. Is there anyway around this? Is it a supported keyboard remapping program? If so, check if the author has a 64-bit version of their driver or program that intercepts the scan codes from the keyboard. If not, you'll have to find a 64-bit alternative keymap tool. I didn't think a program that intercepts keyboard scan codes needs to use a driver. If it uses system APIs to get the scan codes, a driver isn't needed. It would just have to get loaded and remain backgrounded to capture the keypresses as they occur, or the key capture code is part of a program you are already using. For example, Sharpkeys (https://www.randyrants.com/category/sharpkeys/) does not use a driver. It uses .Net Framework to capture key events via system API calls. This one doesn't even need to resident for its remappings to work. It defines the remappings in the registry. I'm not sure, but my guess is under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Keyboard Layout where some typical mappings are already defined. Registry-defined [re]mappings don't use a driver. They don't even rely on background keyboard remapper programs. The scan code is defined in the registry. A couple others (that rely on registry-defined key mappings) are mentioned at: https://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/06/th...ard-remapping/ Yeah, old, but then so, too, is the Windows registry. There are newer articles, like just a couple months old, still mentioning Sharpkeys. There are monster remappers and macro recorders, like AutoHotkeys and AutoIt. As I recall, those don't rely on registry definitions, but must always run in the background to intercept the keypress events (or generate them for recorded macros). However, if the program is directly interrogating the hardware then, yes, a driver is required. The driver is the interface between the OS (and other processes) with the hardware. Did this keyboard remapper software come bundled with a keyboard, so it works with only THAT keyboard? Is this vertical market software that is a company secret you cannot reveal? Why the secrecy? Or is that a secret, too? |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2020 10:18:39 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: I am the only one in this house so the first thing I turn off is UAC. Besides I do not do anything illegal and password protect personal info. Is there anything that would bring this up because I am trying to install x86 on x64? Don't know if you upgraded from x32 to x64 (didn't think you could do that, but I've not tried), or if you did a fresh install of x64 (I always do fresh installs, never upgrades). Also, no idea what are "some programs" or under what folder they are installed (some old programs expect allowances under C:\Program Files [x86]" that haven't been allowed since Windows Vista). Is the exact message you get "Only administrator account permits this program"? UAC gives a prompt "Do you want to allow this app to make changes". What you describe sounds like a policy setting. It was a fresh install of x64 Windows Pro. I thought maybe x64 did not like some x86 programs "...some x86 programs" that you installed. We can't see what they are. Can you give an example or two? Maybe someone else ran into the same situation and worked out a solution. which would make sense. The exact message is how you typed it. It is surprising that I could not find this wording on a search of the internet. This Samsung laptop P460 came with a program that sets up the function keys. Such as one combination that turns on and off the backlight, switches from the laptop screen to an attached screen, etc. It does not want to install. There are no device manager errors reported. I am only out about $50 for the memory upgrade to 8 Gigs so I am thinking time has run out for this computer and I am going to restore it to x86 and look for a new laptop. Thanks to everybody for trying to help keep this antiquated computer going. Let's not waste anymore time on it. Bill |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
It turned out the message is not a windows 10 message but a message in the program. The program is owned by the Administrators but maybe that means an administrator does not really own it. I will have to research this in the future. So where am I. I found a Windows 7 x64 HDMI driver in the UK and now my HDMI port works again. I found a message that pointed me to a windows 8 display manager file that has my function keys working. It is a good thing I am sheltering in place and do not have a dog to talk to otherwise I might of given up. Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. Thanks for the help and sticking with me. -- Bill Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. I thought only Black Hats used red messages... Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. I thought only Black Hats used red messages... So you have not seen this. Maybe because you have not tried to rebuild windows. I will image it and try to find a way to get it to you. Bill |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. I thought only Black Hats used red messages... Paul I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you somehow and see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need to change to install this program. The program has to do with my computer turbo settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images etc. on the internet so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not involve registering. -- Bill Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. I thought only Black Hats used red messages... I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you somehow and see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need to change to install this program. The program has to do with my computer turbo settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images etc. on the internet so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not involve registering. Take a snapshot of the screen. Make sure no other windows or desktop icons reveal anything personal, or edit it out. Some clip managers let you choose what to snapshot, like a window instead of the entire screen. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/8-ways-y...in-windows-10/ Open MS Paint (or Paint.Net or whatever image editor you like) and paste the clip. Save to a file. Open imgur.com and drag the image file into the web browser's document window. The file gets uploaded. You can even give a title and description of the image. Then provide the URL to point to the uploaded snapshot file. Not sure what "do with your computer turbo settings". Does that mean it is a tweaker program? Those need the user to grant elevated privileges for them to edit the registry. Besides UAC (which you said you disabled), you may have other security software installed (e.g., anti- virus, anti-malware, policy restrictions, etc) that may generate the user prompt. If the turbo settings are in your BIOS, you're not even running Windows when you're in the BIOS screens. |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. I thought only Black Hats used red messages... Paul I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you somehow and see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need to change to install this program. The program has to do with my computer turbo settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images etc. on the internet so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not involve registering. Upload here. https://postimages.org/ "Choose images" It will come back with a series of URLs. Try posting the "direct link" URL in your next message. ******* Another one, is imgur. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...aring_websites "Imgur United States Free image hosting, no registration required." Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: Now I get to move on to this really nasty red message big brother is giving me when I try to install some programs. I thought only Black Hats used red messages... Paul I have an image of the message. I would like to get it to you somehow and see if you know of a setting in my Windows 10 Pro I need to change to install this program. The program has to do with my computer turbo settings. I do not do any video or exchange of images etc. on the internet so I will need some help. Hopefully it will not involve registering. Upload here. https://postimages.org/ "Choose images" It will come back with a series of URLs. Try posting the "direct link" URL in your next message. ******* Another one, is imgur. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...aring_websites "Imgur United States Free image hosting, no registration required." Paul This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to install. https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not necessary. Bill |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to install. Don't know what you were trying to do. None of the image storage sites that I've ever used require installing any software. All they're doing is uploading a file. If you don't want to use drag-n-drop to upload a file, use their file browser dialog. https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ Well, right at the top it says it is a prompt for User Account Control. Yet you claimed to have disabled UAC. Is this your computer, or someone else's? Is a family member's, friend's, or workplace's computer? If it is your computer, are you logging in under a Windows account that has administrator privileges? Or are you logging in under a normal or guest account? Non-admin Windows accounts (i.e., guest or standard/normal accounts) are not allowed to install programs. Does not appear you are logging into Windows with an admin-level account. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-control-works "The elevation prompt color-coding is as follows: - Red background with a red shield icon: The app is blocked by Group Policy or is from a publisher that is blocked. ..." Disable User Account Control (UAC) the Easy Way on Win 7, 8, or 10 https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...windows-vista/ As I recall, you cannot change the UAC level if the Windows account under which you logged it is not in the Administrators security group. What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact. I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not necessary. Administrator account and those Windows accounts in the Administrators security group do NOT have full privileges. They just have more. Only the SYSTEM account has full privileges. To see in which security group is your Windows account, open a command shell and run: net user That will list all the user accounts defined under SAM (Security Account Manager). Then run the following on YOUR Windows account: net user youraccount Under the "Local Group Memberships" (the security groups), to which does your Windows account belong? Security groups are a way of assigning permissions to each group, and then Windows accounts will enlist in one, or more, of the security groups to inherit their permissions. |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to install. https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not necessary. Bill When you download files to your Download folder with a browser, Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source is "foreign". https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10 The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock". You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it. If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that improves the odds of it being accepted. I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has something to do with my "habits" when setting these OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example, if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of uploading or downloading for the method to work, I would probably be disabling that. But the real time AV signature type scans, I leave that running (and the signature updates are fine, I just don't want any hoovering of personal files). I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be trusted. To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K era, that gives metadata information about files. You can see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files, was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file, and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble, or maybe not. File 4503 \Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident) $FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) / hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident) $DATA (nonresident) logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df) $DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how files are marked "foreign" Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to install. https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not necessary. Bill When you download files to your Download folder with a browser, Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source is "foreign". https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10 The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock". You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it. If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that improves the odds of it being accepted. I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has something to do with my "habits" when setting these OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example, if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of uploading or downloading for the method to work, I would probably be disabling that. But the real time AV signature type scans, I leave that running (and the signature updates are fine, I just don't want any hoovering of personal files). I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be trusted. To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K era, that gives metadata information about files. You can see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files, was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file, and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble, or maybe not. File 4503 \Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident) $FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) / hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident) $DATA (nonresident) logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df) $DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how files are marked "foreign" Paul I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this computer working with x64. Fortunately it is partitioned and I keep full backups but I can get away with just backing up a C: before I start doing weird things to it. There is only 1 account and it is Local and Administrator. Smart Screen is off. UAC is off. Maybe it has something to do with Exploit Protection. What do you think? It sounds like you believe this message came from Windows. I will also look at the unblock option. Bill |
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On 01/06/2020 18:35, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this computer working with x64. I thought you've spent a lot of time telling us that you are a complete idiot when we knew all along from your first post. Anyway, this is a salient point for the future. -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to install. https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not necessary. Bill When you download files to your Download folder with a browser, Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source is "foreign". https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10 The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock". You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it. If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that improves the odds of it being accepted. I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has something to do with my "habits" when setting these OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example, if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of uploading or downloading for the method to work, I would probably be disabling that. But the real time AV signature type scans, I leave that running (and the signature updates are fine, I just don't want any hoovering of personal files). I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be trusted. To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K era, that gives metadata information about files. You can see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files, was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file, and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble, or maybe not. File 4503 \Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident) $FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) / hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident) $DATA (nonresident) logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df) $DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how files are marked "foreign" Paul I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this computer working with x64. Fortunately it is partitioned and I keep full backups but I can get away with just backing up a C: before I start doing weird things to it. There is only 1 account and it is Local and Administrator. Smart Screen is off. UAC is off. Maybe it has something to do with Exploit Protection. What do you think? It sounds like you believe this message came from Windows. I will also look at the unblock option. Bill It might. I'm not an authority on the depth and breadth of Windows Defender in Windows 10. I've enabled only the stuff I consider relevant to the threat surface there. There is no email on my "real" Win10 installs. Email is done over here, on this machine. It's POP3, so there's only one program doing the emailing. If I have to, I have a VM with a mail server inside it, and in there, I can do email testing when necessary. That's how I can test the windows 10 Mail App. And pump messages to it with Thunderbird. The client programs attach to 127.0.0.1 kind of thing. https://www.hmailserver.com/ Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: This one involved the Intel Turbo Memory Console which has to do with Ready Drive and Ready Boost. I do not need either of these so I am not going to install. https://postimg.cc/14FWXVDQ What bugs me is I am the administrator so what administrator do I contact :-). I looked through the files with HxD to see if this was a program message or Windows 10 message. I did not find anything in the program files regarding the message. Do you think this is Windows? By the way, except for 2 of the function key combinations on the keyboard the Windows 10 x64 change is working fine. I am one of these people that wants everything to work even if it is not necessary. Bill When you download files to your Download folder with a browser, Windows sets an alternate stream, which indicates the file source is "foreign". https://www.windowscentral.com/how-f...ion-windows-10 The Properties for the file, offers an option to "Unblock". You can disable SmartScreen, as a second way to fix it. If a file is signed with a certificate, perhaps that improves the odds of it being accepted. I don't think I've seen one of those, and it has something to do with my "habits" when setting these OSes up :-) Purely an accident I assure you. For example, if a Windows Defender method requires any kind of uploading or downloading for the method to work, I would probably be disabling that. But the real time AV signature type scans, I leave that running (and the signature updates are fine, I just don't want any hoovering of personal files). I have a pretty good idea, that everything in my Downloads folder is foreign. And should not be trusted. To test how this works, I just downloaded the Firefox Installer from Mozilla. Then, I ran "nfi.exe", a utility from the Win2K era, that gives metadata information about files. You can see the "Zone Identifier" that does not exist on other files, was added after the download. Now, if I try to run the file, and SmartScreen is enabled, maybe there will be trouble, or maybe not. File 4503 \Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\Firefox Installer.exe $STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident) $FILE_NAME (resident) \__ There should not be $FILE_NAME (resident) / hardlinks, I don't like this... $OBJECT_ID (resident) $DATA (nonresident) logical sectors 4473704-4474335 (0x444368-0x4445df) $DATA Zone.Identifier (resident) === how files are marked "foreign" Paul I am just going to answer 1 email. I have spent alot of time getting this computer working with x64. Fortunately it is partitioned and I keep full backups but I can get away with just backing up a C: before I start doing weird things to it. There is only 1 account and it is Local and Administrator. Smart Screen is off. UAC is off. Maybe it has something to do with Exploit Protection. What do you think? It sounds like you believe this message came from Windows. I will also look at the unblock option. Bill It might. I'm not an authority on the depth and breadth of Windows Defender in Windows 10. I've enabled only the stuff I consider relevant to the threat surface there. There is no email on my "real" Win10 installs. Email is done over here, on this machine. It's POP3, so there's only one program doing the emailing. If I have to, I have a VM with a mail server inside it, and in there, I can do email testing when necessary. That's how I can test the windows 10 Mail App. And pump messages to it with Thunderbird. The client programs attach to 127.0.0.1 kind of thing. https://www.hmailserver.com/ Paul I am going no further with this. Thanks for all the help and expanding my knowledge as much as it can be. Now I will try 2004 and see what happens. -- Bill Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska |
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