Is VLC 3.0.3 for Windows 7?

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
[]
My recommendation is almost always to try the new version, but save
the installation file for the old one. If you don't like the new
version, go back to the old one.

That's what I like to do too. However, VLC doesn't make it easy, as it
offers to self-upgrade. That's fine the first time - you've got the
installation file you got to install it in the first place - but, if
that upgrade works (especially if it works better or has new features
you like), you stick with it - and _next_ upgrade, you don't have the
installation file for the second one to go back to if you don't like
_that_ upgrade for some reason.

I think you _do_, actually, but you don't know _where_ (and I don't
think it has the version in the filename if you _can_ find it).

Of course, you can always decline the offer to self-upgrade, and
manually fetch the latest complete installer. But that's tedious, and
there's also the concern that some settings (which you've carefully
made, and may not be sure how you did so) might be lost.


This applies of course to anything that offers to self-upgrade, not just
VLC.
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Weatherman
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wrote:
I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine.
Should (can I) upgrade to VLC
3.0.3?


Yes it does and it runs in Linux too.

It (3.0.3) seems to work well enough on my (4 pretend core, 32 bit) W7.

Something I _have_ noticed lately though - though can't say whether it's
only since "up"grading to 3.0.3: sometimes, a video will not update
properly - the moving part paints, but leaves trails; but, at other
times, the _same_ file will play fine. Sometimes if this happens,
hitting the back button (left-arrow; go back 10 seconds) will make the
video play fine when it gets to the same point. It doesn't _seem_ to
relate to what else I'm doing on the computer (usually nothing, when I'm
watching a video - certainly nothing processor- or graphic-intensive).
If I leave such a "smearing" video playing, it _sometimes gets better -
perhaps next I-frame, though if that's the case they're a _lot_ further
apart than I thought they were.

Anyone know why this happens (and ideally how to cure it)? I've most
recently noticed it on some .flv files, but as VLH says, you can't tell
much from an extension these days, as they may contain all sorts of
different things inside.

(These are local files; I haven't _noticed_ it on something playing from
online, but then I don't actually do that much, so it may happen there
too.)

You should go through the VLC preferences with a fine-tooth comb.

The terms you're looking for, are listed here. The renderer choice
can cause smearing, unintentional transparency, green screen,
inability to screen capture, a whole raft of symptoms.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...right-renderer

The desktop likely uses compositing.

Aero (transparency and friends) can be shut off.

DXVA is the standard interface for hardware-accelerated
playback. Which only works for certain video formats
(perhaps Hollywood types). When third-party (commercial)
video packages first started using hardware acceleration,
I thought they were using some hand-crafted crap. Only
later did the term "DXVA" start showing up, to explain
what they'd tapped into. Programs like VLC or FFMPEG, may
choose to tap into that kind of hardware assist. The output
could be put into an off-screen buffer, and then copied
to a rendering surface (VMR7/VMR9/Overlay/whatever).

A good program exposes the choices in Preferences, so
someone with a crusty video card, can still use the program.

When hardware acceleration is turned off, one side effect
is PrintScreen capture or GDIgrab, might work for you.

Paul

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
You should go through the VLC preferences with a fine-tooth comb.

The terms you're looking for, are listed here. The renderer choice
can cause smearing, unintentional transparency, green screen,
inability to screen capture, a whole raft of symptoms.

Trouble is, the problem I'm having in VLC only occurs _sometimes_ - with
the same file. Playing it another time will sometimes play fine;
sometimes, it will play OK even in the same session of VLC if I just go
back 20 or 30 seconds and let it play up to that point again.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...w/choosing-the
-right-renderer

Thanks, noted.

The desktop likely uses compositing.

Aero (transparency and friends) can be shut off.

I am indeed using a non-Aero theme. I didn't actively hate it as some
seem to do - in fact I quite liked it; but it interfered with something
else, and rather than try to fight whatever that was (I forget now: I
think it included the ability to set/change the colours etc. of various
screen elements), I changed to a non-Aero theme.
[]
A good program exposes the choices in Preferences, so
someone with a crusty video card, can still use the program.

Toshiba protégé R700-1F5; Display adapters in Device Manager says
"Intel(R) HD Graphics". I don't think it's _very_ crusty.

When hardware acceleration is turned off, one side effect
is PrintScreen capture or GDIgrab, might work for you.

So far, I've always found VLC's camera button works OK (once I've found
where it's put the result).

Paul
John
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On 8/5/2018 7:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:51:08 -0400, wrote:

I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine. Should (can I) upgrade to VLC
3.0.3?

Version 2.2.8 here. I did try a more recent version, but got
crashes, so reverted.
If 2.2.4 works, use it.
[]'s

Win 7-32.
I tried updating to Version 3.something and had playback issues.

Version 2.2.8 is reported to be the last version to support .wtv
files. That seems to work. Probably a good idea to archive
that version if you use media center.

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:14:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
[]
My recommendation is almost always to try the new version, but save
the installation file for the old one. If you don't like the new
version, go back to the old one.

That's what I like to do too. However, VLC doesn't make it easy, as it
offers to self-upgrade. That's fine the first time - you've got the
installation file you got to install it in the first place - but, if
that upgrade works (especially if it works better or has new features
you like), you stick with it - and _next_ upgrade, you don't have the
installation file for the second one to go back to if you don't like
_that_ upgrade for some reason.

I think you _do_, actually, but you don't know _where_ (and I don't
think it has the version in the filename if you _can_ find it).

Of course, you can always decline the offer to self-upgrade, and
manually fetch the latest complete installer. But that's tedious, and
there's also the concern that some settings (which you've carefully
made, and may not be sure how you did so) might be lost.


You can always find the old versions he

http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/

Just choose the version, and then the OS.
[]'s



This applies of course to anything that offers to self-upgrade, not just
VLC.
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes:
[]
My recommendation is almost always to try the new version, but save
the installation file for the old one. If you don't like the new
version, go back to the old one.

That's what I like to do too. However, VLC doesn't make it easy, as it
offers to self-upgrade. That's fine the first time - you've got the
installation file you got to install it in the first place - but, if
that upgrade works (especially if it works better or has new features
you like), you stick with it - and _next_ upgrade, you don't have the
installation file for the second one to go back to if you don't like
_that_ upgrade for some reason.

I think you _do_, actually, but you don't know _where_ (and I don't
think it has the version in the filename if you _can_ find it).

Of course, you can always decline the offer to self-upgrade, and
manually fetch the latest complete installer. But that's tedious, and
there's also the concern that some settings (which you've carefully
made, and may not be sure how you did so) might be lost.


This applies of course to anything that offers to self-upgrade, not just
VLC.

I keep the install file. There it is in my Downloads
folder--VLC-3.0.1-Win64.exe.
So it does show the version and that it is for windows 64 bit.
--
G Ross

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:50:55 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

wrote:
I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine. Should (can I) upgrade to VLC
3.0.3?

My VLC 1.1.11 works just fine on 7/64. No reason for me to upgrade.



It's up to you of course. Working fine is always good. But until you
try a new version of something, you don't know whether it works even
better or what new features it has that you might like even better.

My recommendation is almost always to try the new version, but save
the installation file for the old one. If you don't like the new
version, go back to the old one.

That is a good point.

In message , Shadow
writes:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:14:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
[]
My recommendation is almost always to try the new version, but save
the installation file for the old one. If you don't like the new
version, go back to the old one.

That's what I like to do too. However, VLC doesn't make it easy, as it
offers to self-upgrade. That's fine the first time - you've got the
installation file you got to install it in the first place - but, if
that upgrade works (especially if it works better or has new features
you like), you stick with it - and _next_ upgrade, you don't have the
installation file for the second one to go back to if you don't like
_that_ upgrade for some reason.

I think you _do_, actually, but you don't know _where_ (and I don't
think it has the version in the filename if you _can_ find it).

I take back that particular point, in the case of VLC at least: as G.
Ross has pointed out, the downloaded filename _does_ show the version.
Although the point remains that, if you let VLC do the upgrade (as it
offers to), you don't know _where_ it has _put_ the installer file, or
whether it keeps it after installation (or even if it doesn't delete it,
has put it somewhere that will be purged eventually).

Of course, you can always decline the offer to self-upgrade, and
manually fetch the latest complete installer. But that's tedious, and
there's also the concern that some settings (which you've carefully
made, and may not be sure how you did so) might be lost.


You can always find the old versions he

http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/

Just choose the version, and then the OS.
[]'s

But you have to know which version you want. If you've allowed it to
self-upgrade more than once, and the last one did something undesirable,
then unless you made a note of the version you had before the last
upgrade you (just) did, you don't _know_ what version you want.

(Good to know back versions _are_ available, though. [It'd be
interesting to see which ones people are fetching.])

This applies of course to anything that offers to self-upgrade, not just
VLC.
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On 8/6/2018 6:51 AM, wrote:
I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine. Should (can I) upgrade to VLC
3.0.3?


Just try it! If you don't like it, you can always fall back to the old
one. Just keep a copy of the old version.

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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/6/2018 6:51 AM, wrote:
I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine. Should (can I) upgrade to VLC
3.0.3?


Just try it! If you don't like it, you can always fall back to the old
one. Just keep a copy of the old version.

Ditto. He could aluse the portable versions.
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On 8/9/2018 5:42 AM, Ant wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/6/2018 6:51 AM, wrote:
I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine. Should (can I) upgrade to VLC
3.0.3?


Just try it! If you don't like it, you can always fall back to the old
one. Just keep a copy of the old version.

Ditto. He could aluse the portable versions.


VLC's installer and distributor are still very responsible. Just
download the installer package directly from **official** website. No
mess will be left behind under normal operation.

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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote in
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On 8/9/2018 5:42 AM, Ant wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/6/2018 6:51 AM, wrote:
I am currently running 2.2.4 Weatherwax on a 64 bit Win 7 machine.
Should (can I) upgrade to VLC 3.0.3?


Just try it! If you don't like it, you can always fall back to the
old one. Just keep a copy of the old version.

Ditto. He could aluse the portable versions.


VLC's installer and distributor are still very responsible. Just
download the installer package directly from **official** website. No
mess will be left behind under normal operation.

From the official VLC web page:

Windows requirements

VLC runs on all versions of Windows, from Windows XP SP3 to the last
version of Windows 10.

If for some reason you don't like 3.0.3 I still have 2.2.8 and 3.0.0 on my
hard drive.

On 09/08/2018 22:38, Tim wrote:
"M

CAN YOU JUST **** OFF. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WINDOWS 10;

GO **** YOUR MUM. TIM IDIOT MOTHER ****ER.




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On 8/10/2018 5:42 AM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 09/08/2018 22:38, Tim wrote:
"M

CAN YOU JUST **** OFF. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WINDOWS 10;

Take it easy... stay calm!

GO **** YOUR MUM. TIM IDIOT MOTHER ****ER.

You don't persuade nor order someone to commit incest! It's a crime in
most countries.


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Just try it! If you don't like it, you can always fall back to the
old one. Just keep a copy of the old version.

Ditto. He could aluse the portable versions.


VLC's installer and distributor are still very responsible. Just
download the installer package directly from **official** website. No
mess will be left behind under normal operation.

I found that VLC later than V2.1.5 (eg 2.2.4) had a problem playing .mpg and
..dvr-ms files of off-air broadcasts (.wtv and .ts files were fine), whereas
2.1.5 is fine. I've left my PC on that, because it was a major hassle
uninstalling the newer, broken version to put back the older one: any
customised settings had to be re-entered. I've not plucked up the courage to
try even newer versions like 3.0.3. I suppose I should try it.

This is for 720x576 (European standard) on Windows 7 using the 64-bit VLC. I
think the error was that playback was blocky and it stuttered, with parts of
one frame showing through onto another.

I suppose I could have converted all the affected recordings to .wtv. It was
only older ones that I recorded using Windows Vista's Windows Media Centre
(as .dvr-ms) or some proprietary recording software (as .mpg) that came with
a DVB-T adaptor; anything recorded with Window 7's WMC (as .wtv) or with
NextPVR (as .ts) was fine.