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August 17th 18, 11:18 AM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
Hi,
I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. 
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August 17th 18, 11:31 AM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On 2018-08-17, dale wrote:
Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, You discovered bug in Firefox? -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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August 17th 18, 12:17 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On 2018-08-17 12:18, dale wrote:
Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg It displays a face talking. Doesn't work directly with FireFox. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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August 17th 18, 02:29 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:18:17 -0400, dale wrote:
Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, Neither one works by default in Firefox. -- Andrzej Matuch FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
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August 17th 18, 02:40 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On 8/17/2018 9:29 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:18:17 -0400, dale wrote: Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, Neither one works by default in Firefox. this is my intention: https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified.
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August 17th 18, 02:44 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On 8/17/2018 7:17 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2018-08-17 12:18, dale wrote: Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg It displays a face talking. Doesn't work directly with FireFox. checked firefox on windows, doesn't work there this is my intention https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html my HTML5 code checks MP4 first, so this works with firefox on windows, but if I open the OGG file directly I see it doesn't work -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified.
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August 17th 18, 02:45 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On 8/17/2018 6:31 AM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2018-08-17, dale wrote: Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, You discovered bug in Firefox? don't know ... checked firefox on windows, doesn't work there this is my intention https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html my HTML5 code checks MP4 first, so this works with firefox on windows, but if I open the OGG file directly I see it doesn't work -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified.
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August 17th 18, 02:54 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 09:40:50 -0400, dale wrote:
On 8/17/2018 9:29 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:18:17 -0400, dale wrote: Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, Neither one works by default in Firefox. this is my intention: https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html The video on that web page worked fine though. As far as I know, Firefox has built-in support for OGG and every other free codec so if that's what you used, I'm surprised that it didn't work. -- Andrzej Matuch FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
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August 17th 18, 03:17 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
On 8/17/2018 9:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 09:40:50 -0400, dale wrote: On 8/17/2018 9:29 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:18:17 -0400, dale wrote: Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...master/images/ Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, Neither one works by default in Firefox. this is my intention: https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html The video on that web page worked fine though. As far as I know, Firefox has built-in support for OGG and every other free codec so if that's what you used, I'm surprised that it didn't work. the code checks MP4 first, then OGG before it throws a message video controls source src="https://www.dalekelly.org/images/Capture_20161219_2.mp4" type="video/mp4" source src="https://www.dalekelly.org/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg" type="video/ogg" Your browser does not support the MP4 or OGG video tags. /video -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified.
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August 17th 18, 04:24 PM
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can someone test an OGG video on linux?
dale wrote:
Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, Capture_20161219_2.mp4 386,343 bytes SHA1: B8AA90B0C54E1EA23E66ABE5D87A6528EB3D67EC Capture_20161219_2.ogg 190,005 bytes SHA1: B3FCB1EBE80F7E2A91A5BB5A504DD5B062CEB445 Using ffprobe... Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Capture_20161219_2.mp4': Metadata: major_brand : mp42 minor_version : 0 compatible_brands: mp41isom creation_time : 2017-02-19T17:21:07.000000Z Duration: 00:00:06.07, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 509 kb/s Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (Main) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 800x480 [SAR 1:1 DAR 5:3], 377 kb/s, 30 fps, 30 tbr, 30k tbn, 60 tbc (default) Metadata: creation_time : 2017-02-19T17:21:07.000000Z handler_name : VideoHandler encoder : AVC Coding Stream #0:1(und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 127 kb/s (default) Metadata: creation_time : 2017-02-19T17:21:07.000000Z handler_name : SoundHandler Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Capture_20161219_2.ogg': Metadata: major_brand : isom minor_version : 0 compatible_brands: mp41avc1 creation_time : 2018-08-17T10:04:12.000000Z encoder : vlc 3.0.3 stream output encoder-eng : vlc 3.0.3 stream output Duration: 00:00:05.87, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 259 kb/s Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: mp3 (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, stereo, s16p, 127 kb/s (default) Metadata: creation_time : 2018-08-17T10:04:12.000000Z handler_name : SoundHandler Stream #0:1(eng): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 800x480 [SAR 1:1 DAR 5:3], 123 kb/s, 30 fps, 30 tbr, 90k tbn, 60 tbc (default) Metadata: creation_time : 2018-08-17T10:04:12.000000Z handler_name : VideoHandler I don't think slapping .ogg on the filename, makes it an OGG. The ffprobe output doesn't mention the container type, just the video and audio codecs. The extension .ogg might be for a soundfile only. I have some counter-examples. http://clips.vorwaerts-gmbh.de/big_buck_bunny.ogv 4654162 bytes (1 minute) SHA1: 2E6605AA454D18F8CEC76F0FE05C19AA2A39F9EF http://clips.vorwaerts-gmbh.de/big_buck_bunny.webm 5071076 bytes (1 minute) SHA1: 0EB3B84B06E07B13C6FFDBEB15D7C738B1B6A9FA [ogg @ 0x562338a5e080] Broken file, keyframe not correctly marked. Last message repeated 1 times Input #0, ogg, from 'big_buck_bunny.ogv': Duration: 00:01:00.71, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 613 kb/s Stream #0:0: Data: none Stream #0:1: Video: theora, yuv420p, 640x360, 24 fps, 24 tbr, 24 tbn, 24 tbc Metadata: ENCODER : ffmpeg2theora-0.26 SOURCE_OSHASH : 2db240d20536fa31 Stream #0:2: Audio: vorbis, 22000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 96 kb/s Metadata: ENCODER : ffmpeg2theora-0.26 SOURCE_OSHASH : 2db240d20536fa31 Unsupported codec with id 0 for input stream 0 Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'big_buck_bunny.webm': Metadata: encoder : Flix Duration: 00:01:01.51, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 659 kb/s Stream #0:0(eng): Video: vp8, yuv420p(progressive), 640x360, SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 24 fps, 24 tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc (default) Metadata: title : VP8 video stream Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: vorbis, 22050 Hz, mono, fltp (default) The ".ogv" appears to be theora/vorbis. The ".webm" appears to be VP8/vorbis. In VLC, the .webm is liquid and artifact-free. You could try some video conversions with ffmpeg. Once the ffprobe detections improve, you can re-post. Big_Buck_Bunny is from the Video For Everybody test page. http://camendesign.com/code/video_fo...body/test.html HTH, Paul
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August 17th 18, 04:52 PM
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On 08/17/2018 05:18 AM, dale wrote:
Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, I'm running Firefox on Linux. Neither link is actually to an .ogg, but to a page where one can be downloaded. I suppose you wanted the first file there. Firefox 61 shows a player with "No video with supported format and MIME type". It's not working on the latest Chromium or Opera either. Saving didn't work in FF, but did in Chromium. The file played OK. It just doesn't work in a browser. Browsers have specific codec requirements, that are probably stricter than a standalone player. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." -- Albert Einstein
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August 17th 18, 05:09 PM
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On 08/17/2018 06:17 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2018-08-17 12:18, dale wrote: Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg It displays a face talking. Doesn't work directly with FireFox. Apparently, this file is NOT an .ogg. Your standalone player is recognizing it (probably MP4) and playing that. Browsers are more particular. My converter program identified the video codec as H.264 (as used by MP4) rather than Theora (as used by OGG), as if the file had been RENAMED rather than actually converted. It takes a real .ogg to play in a browser. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." -- Albert Einstein
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August 17th 18, 05:21 PM
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On 08/17/2018 05:18 AM, dale wrote:
Hi, I only have Windows. I used VLC to convert an MP4 to OGG. It plays well in VLC. Can someone(s) test it on linux for me? Are you sure you actually converted it, not just saved it with a different name? As I posted elsewhere, this file appears to be a .MP4 with the wrong extension. When using VLC to convert, you need to select something under "Profile". In this case, it would be "Video: Theora + Vorbis (OGG)". A browser checks for the MIME type (should be video/ogg) provided by the server, and the codecs (Theora, Vorbis). https://github.com/dalekellytoo/webs...20161219_2.ogg https://github.com/dalekellytoo/website/blob/master/images/Capture_20161219_2.ogg Thanks, -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." -- Albert Einstein
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August 17th 18, 05:22 PM
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On 08/17/2018 08:44 AM, dale wrote:
[snip] my HTML5 code checks MP4 first, so this works with firefox on windows, but if I open the OGG file directly I see it doesn't work Simple. It doesn't work because it's not an OGG.
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August 17th 18, 05:25 PM
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On 08/17/2018 08:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
[snip] The video on that web page worked fine though. As far as I know, Firefox has built-in support for OGG and every other free codec so if that's what you used, I'm surprised that it didn't work. "If you call the tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?" "Four. Calling the tail a leg doesn't make it one." In the same way, calling an MP4 an OGG doesn't make it one. That file is a MP4. You need to convert it.
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