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Old May 18th 13, 02:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Anthony Buckland
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

I note that update 2823324 was installed on my machine
in a recent mass update. Is it safe now, or do I need
to uninstall it again? Thanks.
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  #2  
Old May 18th 13, 12:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
s|b
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

On Fri, 17 May 2013 18:10:10 -0700, Anthony Buckland wrote:

I note that update 2823324 was installed on my machine
in a recent mass update. Is it safe now, or do I need
to uninstall it again? Thanks.


You need to uninstall. As Ken1943 already stated: it was replaced with
another update (which you have probably installed at this moment).

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Old May 18th 13, 02:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Kenny Cargill
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

How do I know if I've got it and what's the problem with it?

Kenny Cargill

"s|b" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 17 May 2013 18:10:10 -0700, Anthony Buckland wrote:

I note that update 2823324 was installed on my machine
in a recent mass update. Is it safe now, or do I need
to uninstall it again? Thanks.


You need to uninstall. As Ken1943 already stated: it was replaced with
another update (which you have probably installed at this moment).

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s|b
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Old May 18th 13, 02:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

Kenny Cargill wrote:
How do I know if I've got it and what's the problem with it?

Kenny Cargill


http://www.davescomputertips.com/wp-...l-update-1.jpg

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2839011

Kaspersky has already patched their issue with the update. The
Brazilian banking software, probably wasn't fixed quite as fast,
but mainly affected Brazilian users.

If you haven't had problems up to now, it means you did not
have a complicating factor present. If you didn't have Kaspersky,
maybe you would not see a problem.

Paul
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Old May 18th 13, 03:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dave Cohen[_2_]
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

On Sat, 18 May 2013 07:38:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Sat, 18 May 2013 13:09:31 +0200, "s|b" wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2013 18:10:10 -0700, Anthony Buckland wrote:

I note that update 2823324 was installed on my machine in a recent
mass update. Is it safe now, or do I need to uninstall it again?
Thanks.


You need to uninstall. As Ken1943 already stated: it was replaced with
another update (which you have probably installed at this moment).

The replacement would have overridden anything 2823324 did. I guess you
could uninstall, but think of the millions that don't know what we do
and still have it.


KenW


If you're not seeing a problem just let MS fix it.
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Old May 18th 13, 05:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
s|b
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC), Dave Cohen wrote:

If you're not seeing a problem just let MS fix it.


M$ explicitly stated that the user needs to uninstall it, even if there
are no problems.

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Old May 18th 13, 05:44 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , s|b
writes:
On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC), Dave Cohen wrote:

If you're not seeing a problem just let MS fix it.


M$ explicitly stated that the user needs to uninstall it, even if there
are no problems.

How is the user supposed to become aware of that?
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Old May 18th 13, 05:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Anthony Buckland
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

On 18/05/2013 9:35 AM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC), Dave Cohen wrote:

If you're not seeing a problem just let MS fix it.


M$ explicitly stated that the user needs to uninstall it, even if there
are no problems.

Thanks to all who responded. As to how I knew I had it,
I accept automatic updating and received a message,
unusual for me in that normally the updating happens
and I don't even realize it, offering a list of all the
updates. 2823324 was in the (long) list.
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Old May 18th 13, 06:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
s|b
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:44:32 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

M$ explicitly stated that the user needs to uninstall it, even if there
are no problems.


How is the user supposed to become aware of that?


Ask M$. I was made aware of the problem through the RSS-feed of
security.nl. They pointed to M$'s solution:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2839011/en-us

It clearly states:

| We recommend that customers uninstall security update 2823324 and then
| install security update 2840149. This article provides multiple methods
| to uninstall the update.

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Old May 18th 13, 08:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Kenny Cargill
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

I did have a Startup problem recently with "winload.exe missing or corrupt",
this seemed to fix itself after reboot and no problem since. Don't know if
this update had anything to do with it but have now uninstalled it anyway.

Kenny

"Kenny Cargill" wrote in message
...

How do I know if I've got it and what's the problem with it?

Kenny Cargill

"s|b" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 17 May 2013 18:10:10 -0700, Anthony Buckland wrote:

I note that update 2823324 was installed on my machine
in a recent mass update. Is it safe now, or do I need
to uninstall it again? Thanks.


You need to uninstall. As Ken1943 already stated: it was replaced with
another update (which you have probably installed at this moment).

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s|b

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Old May 18th 13, 11:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:44:32 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

M$ explicitly stated that the user needs to uninstall it, even if there
are no problems.


How is the user supposed to become aware of that?


Good point.

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Old May 19th 13, 12:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

In message , s|b
writes:
On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:44:32 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

M$ explicitly stated that the user needs to uninstall it, even if there
are no problems.


How is the user supposed to become aware of that?


Ask M$. I was made aware of the problem through the RSS-feed of
security.nl. They pointed to M$'s solution:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2839011/en-us

It clearly states:

| We recommend that customers uninstall security update 2823324 and then
| install security update 2840149. This article provides multiple methods
| to uninstall the update.

Presumably there is some technical reason preventing them from just
releasing a later update that does the uninstall (plus fixing whatever
the original was supposed to do anyway)?
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Old May 19th 13, 05:35 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?



"Anthony Buckland" wrote in message ...


I note that update 2823324 was installed on my machine
in a recent mass update. Is it safe now, or do I need
to uninstall it again? Thanks.

If previously installed and removed...the 'fixed' same version update will be offered via Windows Update. Depending upon your WU
configuration, it will be installed automatically, downloaded with a prompt to install, or prompt to download and install.

If not previously installed and now offered by WU during last update 'Tuesday' [May 13th] the version being offered is the fixed
version.


i.e. Install it

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Old May 19th 13, 01:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
s|b
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:04:00 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Presumably there is some technical reason preventing them from just
releasing a later update that does the uninstall (plus fixing whatever
the original was supposed to do anyway)?


I suppose so. At first, I was under the impression that a second update
would uninstall 2823324, but I was wrong. Apparently, users have to
uninstall manually...

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Old May 19th 13, 08:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
chicagofan
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Default Is 2823324 safe now?

s|b wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:04:00 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Presumably there is some technical reason preventing them from just
releasing a later update that does the uninstall (plus fixing whatever
the original was supposed to do anyway)?

I suppose so. At first, I was under the impression that a second update
would uninstall 2823324, but I was wrong. Apparently, users have to
uninstall manually...


I never installed 2823324 because of the problems people were having.
However, I did install 2840149, the supposedly fixed update, and it
crashed my system. I uninstalled it to recover, so whatever they were
trying to do, will just go unprotected or whatever on my system.
bj
 




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