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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On this machine, removable disks such as USB flash drives and SD or TF cards do not show in task manager. It does for me, and I'd like to remove this one from the list: I think you can only turn them all on, or all off with diskperf -Y or diskperf -N |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:26 -0000, n/a wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:36:30 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? See if this doesn't help. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces If you've made a pool for storage space, this may be causing what you're seeing in Task Manager. I have no pools. Just a standard 1TB rotary hard disk and a camera card reader. Alright then... Are you referencing 'space used' or 'performance' Task manager calls it "active time" in the performance tab. In the processes tab (where it's annoying me), it's just a %. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:01:18 -0000, Andy Burns wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote: Sorry, that's what I called it, the task manager says "active time". if you put an SD card in the slot, and then in File Explorer right click the drive letter, do you get an "Eject" option for it, or does it seem to think it's a non-removable device? Yes, I get the eject option. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:06:18 -0000, Andy Burns wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote: On this machine, removable disks such as USB flash drives and SD or TF cards do not show in task manager. It does for me, and I'd like to remove this one from the list: I think you can only turn them all on, or all off with diskperf -Y or diskperf -N This would turn off monitoring of C: aswell? There must be another way - if you're not seeing your card reader and I am, there must be a setting we have different. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
Commander Kinsey wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: diskperf -Y or diskperf -N This would turn off monitoring of C: as well? Unfortunately, yes There must be another way - if you're not seeing your card reader and I am, there must be a setting we have different. I was hoping you'd say you got no "eject" and then maybe something could be done to persuade it that it was removable and should be hidden. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:22:41 -0000, Andy Burns wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote: Andy Burns wrote: diskperf -Y or diskperf -N This would turn off monitoring of C: as well? Unfortunately, yes There must be another way - if you're not seeing your card reader and I am, there must be a setting we have different. I was hoping you'd say you got no "eject" and then maybe something could be done to persuade it that it was removable and should be hidden. I can hide it in windows explorer, but task manager doesn't seem to have many options. Not on the menus anyway, unless there's a hidden command like diskperf that's more specific? Something is different between our setups, but I'm not sure how to find out what it is. Oh well, I'll just continue to remember 50% means 100% :-) I guess it's easier than when I had two real hard disks, then I never knew if one was maxed out. 50% could mean they're both half in use, or it could mean one's a bottleneck. Of course the real answer is to throw money at it and upgrade to an SSD, they are becoming very cheap nowadays. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:26 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:36:30 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? See if this doesn't help. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces If you've made a pool for storage space, this may be causing what you're seeing in Task Manager. I have no pools. Just a standard 1TB rotary hard disk and a camera card reader. Alright then... Are you referencing 'space used' or 'performance' Task manager calls it "active time" in the performance tab. In the processes tab (where it's annoying me), it's just a %. In Task Manager, under the Process tab where you are seeing x% usage, which processes are being used? You can click on the column label % and it will then show the most used processes at that time at the top. You do realize that the Performance Active time is not the same as the percentage of time the disk is being used by a Process. To get a better visualization, look at the Memory process column and you will see how much memory is being used by each process. If you were to run a disk utility and view it under Performance, you would see the percentage of time the disk is being used. Also, the SDHC card should not be showing in the Performance tab. If it is, then possibly something under "Storage Sense" where the SDHC card (and all drives show) and look at "More storage Settings" Change where content is saved. Anything in any of the categories show anything but "This PC (C" -- Bob S. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 23:12:17 -0000, n/a wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:26 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:36:30 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? See if this doesn't help. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces If you've made a pool for storage space, this may be causing what you're seeing in Task Manager. I have no pools. Just a standard 1TB rotary hard disk and a camera card reader. Alright then... Are you referencing 'space used' or 'performance' Task manager calls it "active time" in the performance tab. In the processes tab (where it's annoying me), it's just a %. In Task Manager, under the Process tab where you are seeing x% usage, which processes are being used? You can click on the column label % and it will then show the most used processes at that time at the top. Yes I know I can sort them by most used. You do realize that the Performance Active time is not the same as the percentage of time the disk is being used by a Process. The % listed at the top of the disk column in the processes tab is identical to the active time % on the performance tab. To get a better visualization, look at the Memory process column and you will see how much memory is being used by each process. If you were to run a disk utility and view it under Performance, you would see the percentage of time the disk is being used. Also, the SDHC card should not be showing in the Performance tab. Agreed, but it's there and I'd like rid of it. If it is, then possibly something under "Storage Sense" where the SDHC card (and all drives show) and look at "More storage Settings" Change where content is saved. Anything in any of the categories show anything but "This PC (C" I'm not familiar with storage sense, please go into more detail. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 23:12:17 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:26 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:36:30 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? See if this doesn't help. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces If you've made a pool for storage space, this may be causing what you're seeing in Task Manager. I have no pools. Just a standard 1TB rotary hard disk and a camera card reader. Alright then... Are you referencing 'space used' or 'performance' Task manager calls it "active time" in the performance tab. In the processes tab (where it's annoying me), it's just a %. In Task Manager, under the Process tab where you are seeing x% usage, which processes are being used? You can click on the column label % and it will then show the most used processes at that time at the top. Yes I know I can sort them by most used. You do realize that the Performance Active time is not the same as the percentage of time the disk is being used by a Process. The % listed at the top of the disk column in the processes tab is identical to the active time % on the performance tab. To get a better visualization, look at the Memory process column and you will see how much memory is being used by each process. If you were to run a disk utility and view it under Performance, you would see the percentage of time the disk is being used. Also, the SDHC card should not be showing in the Performance tab. Agreed, but it's there and I'd like rid of it. If it is, then possibly something under "Storage Sense" where the SDHC card (and all drives show) and look at "More storage Settings" Change where content is saved. Anything in any of the categories show anything but "This PC (C" I'm not familiar with storage sense, please go into more detail. Did you look where I referenced to see if the SDHC is being used? For Storage Sense details - here's one reference: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...18/08/30/9205/ -- Bob S. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:56:59 -0000, n/a wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 23:12:17 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:26 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:36:30 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? See if this doesn't help. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces If you've made a pool for storage space, this may be causing what you're seeing in Task Manager. I have no pools. Just a standard 1TB rotary hard disk and a camera card reader. Alright then... Are you referencing 'space used' or 'performance' Task manager calls it "active time" in the performance tab. In the processes tab (where it's annoying me), it's just a %. In Task Manager, under the Process tab where you are seeing x% usage, which processes are being used? You can click on the column label % and it will then show the most used processes at that time at the top. Yes I know I can sort them by most used. You do realize that the Performance Active time is not the same as the percentage of time the disk is being used by a Process. The % listed at the top of the disk column in the processes tab is identical to the active time % on the performance tab. To get a better visualization, look at the Memory process column and you will see how much memory is being used by each process. If you were to run a disk utility and view it under Performance, you would see the percentage of time the disk is being used. Also, the SDHC card should not be showing in the Performance tab. Agreed, but it's there and I'd like rid of it. If it is, then possibly something under "Storage Sense" where the SDHC card (and all drives show) and look at "More storage Settings" Change where content is saved. Anything in any of the categories show anything but "This PC (C" I'm not familiar with storage sense, please go into more detail. Did you look where I referenced to see if the SDHC is being used? For Storage Sense details - here's one reference: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...18/08/30/9205/ I don't know what you want me to look at. Under storage sense, more storage settings, change where content is saved, everything is listed as C:, not the SDHC card. And I don't understand what storage sense has to do with the task manager. |
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On 9-2-2019 20:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? Yep. Take the card out. |
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For Storage Sense details - here's one reference: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...18/08/30/9205/ I don't know what you want me to look at. Under storage sense, more storage settings, change where content is saved, everything is listed as C:, not the SDHC card. And I don't understand what storage sense has to do with the task manager. As others have also said, that SDHC card should not be showing up under Task Manager unless it is somehow made part of the storage pools, or storage places used in Win10. So if it is - why? You said it does not show as one of the Content Saved locations, so that rules it out. I can't duplicate what you're seeing so I'm at a loss. Guess Google will have to sort this one out. -- Bob S. |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On 02/09/2019 8:50 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 9-2-2019 20:38, Commander Kinsey wrote: My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket.Â* Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? Yep. Take the card out. He did say "empty memory card socket" Rene |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:56:59 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 23:12:17 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:26 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:36:30 -0000, n/a wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news My Windows 10 task manager shows the disk usage of C: (the system hard disk) and E: (a memory card socket). This is quite annoying as the total disk usage shows 50% when the hard disk is fully utilised, because it's including the empty memory card socket. Any way of stopping it including the memory card socket in the calculation? See if this doesn't help. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces If you've made a pool for storage space, this may be causing what you're seeing in Task Manager. I have no pools. Just a standard 1TB rotary hard disk and a camera card reader. Alright then... Are you referencing 'space used' or 'performance' Task manager calls it "active time" in the performance tab. In the processes tab (where it's annoying me), it's just a %. In Task Manager, under the Process tab where you are seeing x% usage, which processes are being used? You can click on the column label % and it will then show the most used processes at that time at the top. Yes I know I can sort them by most used. You do realize that the Performance Active time is not the same as the percentage of time the disk is being used by a Process. The % listed at the top of the disk column in the processes tab is identical to the active time % on the performance tab. To get a better visualization, look at the Memory process column and you will see how much memory is being used by each process. If you were to run a disk utility and view it under Performance, you would see the percentage of time the disk is being used. Also, the SDHC card should not be showing in the Performance tab. Agreed, but it's there and I'd like rid of it. If it is, then possibly something under "Storage Sense" where the SDHC card (and all drives show) and look at "More storage Settings" Change where content is saved. Anything in any of the categories show anything but "This PC (C" I'm not familiar with storage sense, please go into more detail. Did you look where I referenced to see if the SDHC is being used? For Storage Sense details - here's one reference: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...18/08/30/9205/ I don't know what you want me to look at. Under storage sense, more storage settings, change where content is saved, everything is listed as C:, not the SDHC card. And I don't understand what storage sense has to do with the task manager. These are my results. My SD reader is a USB device with slots for SD type only. It's a USB2 device, not a newer USB3 device. The second picture shows a 512GB SSD on the end of a USB3 cable, which makes it a "portable" device, but I suspect it also has a "fixed disk" kind of status, which could be why it shows in Task Manager. https://i.postimg.cc/Yq1B77TB/SD-reader-empty.gif https://i.postimg.cc/rmv76ZJp/SD-rea...SD-on-USB3.gif I've made no attempt to capture benchmarks in there. Using HDTune, each device achieves 85-90% of its graph while HDTune benches the device. Since the SD is not shown in Task Manager, we can't tell from there how it's doing. HDTune says my SD card is doing 18MB/sec on read. It should do around 10MB/sec on write, but I don't plan on upsetting the contents (as the SD belongs to my digital camera). Since the last release or two of Windows 10, there is a slight amount of error in the HDTune bench, so some sort of temporal issue exists for software. If I really want to bench the devices, I'd be better off booting some other OS. A user can use "perfmon.msc" to chart performance counters, and there is a "disk read bytes per second" and a "disk write bytes per second" in there, if you need to see performance. No matter what utilities you happen to use on your Windows system, stuff can refuse to be counted, or can be double-counted, depending on circumstances. The performance counter system is not without its selection of "corner cases". The behavior of USB devices, can be affected by the RMB bit, and there are USB keys with RMB set or RMB cleared for sale. The Uwe Sieber web site has information on the side-effects of these design choices. The industry seems to have "shifted" a bit, now that Flash storage devices are getting larger. Devices in the 16GB-32GB capacity range, are where you might see the new RMB policy. Initially, I think some Sony flash devices were doing this. An SD reader could dabble in these practices too, so expect to see different behaviors on your new USB3 SD reader versus your yonks-old USB2 SD reader. At least for my reader, it stayed off the charts in the pictures. Only the SSD-on-a-USB3-cable was visible when expected to be visible. And that's the cable that happens to not handle power management states and flushing correctly. You can't win... Paul |
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Task manager includes memory card in disk usage
On 09/02/2019 22:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:22:41 -0000, Andy Burns wrote: Commander Kinsey wrote: Andy Burns wrote: diskperf -Y or diskperf -N This would turn off monitoring of C: as well? Unfortunately, yes There must be another way - if you're not seeing your card reader and I am, there must be a setting we have different. I was hoping you'd say you got no "eject" and then maybe something could be done to persuade it that it was removable and should be hidden. I can hide it in windows explorer, but task manager doesn't seem to have many options.* Not on the menus anyway, unless there's a hidden command like diskperf that's more specific?* Something is different between our setups, but I'm not sure how to find out what it is.* Oh well, I'll just continue to remember 50% means 100% :-)* I guess it's easier than when I had two real hard disks, then I never knew if one was maxed out.* 50% could mean they're both half in use, or it could mean one's a bottleneck.* Of course the real answer is to throw money at it and upgrade to an SSD, they are becoming very cheap nowadays. After reading the above posts I now realise that your problem is not with Task Manager, it is because you have a phantom drive (quite common). To remove it: Open a Command Prompt (Admin) subst x: /d OR net use x: /delete where X: is the drive letter of the phantom drive. |
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