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On 09/13/15 11:26, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote: On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped: On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote: On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped: In article Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote: You MS shills STFU FOAD. WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on alt.os.linux.ubuntu ??? I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE, just to irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or not. my choice. You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it... it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off. people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks. So the 'STFU' identifies "the type". And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most likely thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY* don't like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still in Jr. High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little exclusive country club or clique. So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a ignorant, arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks. I like you Bob! I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to comp.os.linux.advocacy. thanks - I do a lot with Linux as well (mostly Debian, Ubu, and Mint), and write or modifie linux kernel drivers on occasion [did a bunch of netfilter and wifi stuff within the last decade]. Mostly it's 'whatever makes the most sense' for what I use for my day-to-day stuff. There are some close ties between Debian and FreeBSD if you haven't already noticed. Debian having a BSD kernel option is only one of them. |
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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8
On 09/13/15 11:33, Snit so wittily quipped:
So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a ignorant, arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks. I do not hate... but I recognize them for what they are. yeah I probably never got over the fact that I "got bigger" than the Jr. High bullies. pounding them can be *FUN*. I wish I could go back in time and put some of them in the hospital for extended stays. |
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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8
Snit wrote:
Right. I say use what you like. If you happen to agree with me, great! If you happen to disagree with me, great! Meanwhile, in a forum on technology, let's talk about technology. My personal focus is usability: how do you get tasks done and how well does a system handle it. Others have other focuses. Great! Good to see you still supporting a free-spirited debate, Snit! For the record, I upgraded to Windows 10 immediately when it was available, and have had no trouble configuring it to control what kind of information is collected about my usage. I simply don't believe the hype - whether one is using fully updated Windows 7 or 8.1, or Windows 10, they can control their system just like they always could. -- Joel Crump |
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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 15:14:15 +0200 (CEST), Bubba wrote:
I'm hoping that Linux developers are closely monitoring this Micro$py 10 runaway train speeding down the tracks, so that might further motivate them to join forces and standardize the Linux OS into a Windows-like, user friendly version that will become very popular among disillusioned, more like betrayed and disgusted, Windows users. And PC hardware manufacturers might consider jumping ship from the proprietary sinking wreck of the RM$ Titanic. Too funny. Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly. -- p-0.0-h the cat Internet Terrorist, Mass sock puppeteer, Agent provocateur, Gutter rat, Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, ******* hacker, Resident evil, Monkey Boy, Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath, the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme, the OVERCAT [The BEARPAIR are dead, and we are its murderers] lowlife troll, shyster [pending approval by STATE_TERROR], cripple, sociopath, kook, smug prick, smartarse, arsehole, moron, idiot, imbecile, snittish scumbag, liar, total ******* retard, shill, pooh-seur, scouringerer, the most complete ignoid, and furball. NewsGroups Numbrer One Terrorist Honorary SHYSTER and FRAUD awarded for services to Haberdashery. By Appointment to God Frank-Lin. Signature integrity check md5 Checksum: be0b2a8c486d83ce7db9a459b26c4896 |
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Where are Micheal Glasser's quotes?
On 09/13/2015 01:46 PM, Joel wrote:
Snit wrote: Right. I say use what you like. If you happen to agree with me, great! If you happen to disagree with me, great! Meanwhile, in a forum on technology, let's talk about technology. My personal focus is usability: how do you get tasks done and how well does a system handle it. Others have other focuses. Great! Good to see you still supporting a free-spirited debate, Snit! For the record, I upgraded to Windows 10 immediately when it was available, and have had no trouble configuring it to control what kind of information is collected about my usage. I simply don't believe the hype - whether one is using fully updated Windows 7 or 8.1, or Windows 10, they can control their system just like they always could. Now ask that "free spirit" about this: "As noted: you lie and troll for attention. Remember when you used to speak about eating dog **** for attention? You have not changed." -- Micheal "Snit" Glasser Ask the lying POS where his quotes are for that. |
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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8
On 09/13/2015 01:37 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 11:26, Nobody so wittily quipped: On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote: On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped: On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote: On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped: In article Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote: You MS shills STFU FOAD. WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on alt.os.linux.ubuntu ??? I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE, just to irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or not. my choice. You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it... it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off. people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks. So the 'STFU' identifies "the type". And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most likely thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY* don't like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still in Jr. High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little exclusive country club or clique. So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a ignorant, arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks. I like you Bob! I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to comp.os.linux.advocacy. thanks - I do a lot with Linux as well (mostly Debian, Ubu, and Mint), and write or modifie linux kernel drivers on occasion [did a bunch of netfilter and wifi stuff within the last decade]. Mostly it's 'whatever makes the most sense' for what I use for my day-to-day stuff. Impressive! There are some close ties between Debian and FreeBSD if you haven't already noticed. Debian having a BSD kernel option is only one of them. Yes, I've noticed. Some of the internals use the BSD way of doing things. I see all users of FOSS, whether it's Linux or BSD, to be allies. |
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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:
On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote: The saga continues. Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7 and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade, Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one serious step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users chose NOT to upgrade. This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade: âThe symptoms are repeated failed âUpgrade to Windows 10' in the WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled â$Windows.~BTâ,â the reader explained. âI thought Microsoft [said] this âupgradeâ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many computers where it wasnât reserved, and why does it try to install over and over again? He continued: âI know of two instances where people on metered connections went over their data cap for August because of this unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, thatâs what led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the computer is booted.â Microsoft Confirms New Policy Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer, Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8: âFor individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by downloading the files theyâll need if they decide to upgrade. When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10 on the device,â said a Microsoft spokesperson. Now letâs be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8 âindividuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Updateâ is essentially everyone. So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found at: C:\$windows.~BT Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden files, folders, and drives. The Fall Out So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided over Windows 10âs forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 userâs storage (and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far. Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10 anyway just to skip this wait for users who donât want Windows 10 is complete madness. So what are your options⊠What To Do For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited. The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely, but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure. Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10 downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows folder. Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply start downloading it again! I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and will update the post when/if the company responds. In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8 which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers whether users want it or not. Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months⊠http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../12/microsoft- confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/ That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet. Nor was it forced upon me. Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either. Me too, I installed / upgrade Win 10 on a few old boxes using the MediaCreationToolx64.exe The Win 10 Update, KB3035583, is an optional update, I've seen it because I have updates set to "Let me look at them first". I do not need KB3035583, so nothing was forced upon me. |
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Penis Köhlmann the Mainz Computer Guy yapped:
Lehman wrote: In article Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote: You MS shills STFU FOAD. Idiot. Nice sig, Peter! -- Kohlmann is a German slang for taking a ****. Kohl-mann 'Coal-man'/Submit verb 1. discharge feces from the body. synonyms: excrete feces, defecate have a bowel movement, have a BM, evacuate one's bowels, relieve oneself, go to the bathroom; informaldo/go number two, poop, take a dump; vulgar slang take a crap "nobody wants to see dogs taking a Kohlmann on the beach" b.t.w.- Peter Köhlmann lied in COLA: "I'm not on social media". Google+: https://plus.google.com/109168722444410572286/posts "Say hello to Peter" |
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On 13/09/2015 05:03, Wildman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:12:11 +0100, Good Guy wrote: I have also noticed that DELL has stopped selling Linux boxes; Last week they were selling for peanuts but now I don't see any. Of course, I look at DELL UK (or EMEA as some call it). Don't know about US but it is a big market not to support it. Nonsense. http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/linux-solutions http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/...=us&l=en&s=biz http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/...redhatalliance I made explicitly clear that I am looking at a UK website fo DELL and THEY HAVE STOPPED SELLING LINUX BOXES. It is nonsense to you because you didn't want me to say how useless Linux system is that only a fool would waste time on it. Intelligent busy professionals have better things to do than waste time on a Linux box. DELL couldn't care less about hobbyists and useless nutters who wants a linux box to play. DELL deals with serious business people or home users determined to succeed in life. This must be you in real life: Wildman-in-real-life http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/03D0/production/_85467900_hi028953238.jpg Have you looked at yourself in mirror recently? |
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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8
Senile **** Peter Köhlmann, GNU/Linux-using laughing stock yapped:
p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 00:33:33 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Lloyd Parsons wrote: On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote: On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote: The saga continues. Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7 and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade, Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one serious step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users chose NOT to upgrade. This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade: âThe symptoms are repeated failed âUpgrade to Windows 10' in the WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled â$Windows.~BTâ,â the reader explained. âI thought Microsoft [said] this âupgradeâ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many computers where it wasnât reserved, and why does it try to install over and over again? He continued: âI know of two instances where people on metered connections went over their data cap for August because of this unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, thatâs what led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the computer is booted.â Microsoft Confirms New Policy Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer, Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8: âFor individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by downloading the files theyâll need if they decide to upgrade. When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10 on the device,â said a Microsoft spokesperson. Now letâs be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8 âindividuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Updateâ is essentially everyone. So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found at: C:\$windows.~BT Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden files, folders, and drives. The Fall Out So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided over Windows 10âs forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 userâs storage (and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far. Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10 anyway just to skip this wait for users who donât want Windows 10 is complete madness. So what are your options⊠What To Do For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited. The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely, but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure. Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10 downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows folder. Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply start downloading it again! I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and will update the post when/if the company responds. In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8 which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers whether users want it or not. Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months⊠http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/12/microsoft- confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/ That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet. Nor was it forced upon me. Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either. Naturally not. Can't have telling the truth Wasn't forced on me either. Lying comes natural to peabrains like you +SHADDUP **** for brains Make me, dimbulb You criminal swine, you *will* pay for your outrageous claims, someday! |
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On 09/12/2015 03:49 PM, Jack Ryan wrote:
I have had updates turned completely off for over a year now due to all the government and MS spying going on. Never had any (known) problems since. I am not so sure that turning off updates is really such a bad idea. MS had plenty of time to work out any major bugs/security problems during the years W7 was auto updating my machine. I know that new problems can arise, but is there really a bigger problem that MS doing this? I keep all my private data in encrypted files on external drives that are plugged in only when I need to use the data. Programs accessing the data are run in a sandbox. And I seldom if ever use MS programs to access the internet (browser, email, media player, FTP, etc...). -- 103 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Every one who publishes a blasphemous libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years. Criminal Code of Canada sec. 296(1) So, arrest me!" |
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On 13/09/2015 18:46, GreyCloud wrote:
But it can be done. No it can't be done. There are just too many nutters in charge and they all look like this person: Linux-Nutter http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/03D0/production/_85467900_hi028953238.jpg |
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On 9/13/2015 1:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
I've been hoping for linux developers to merge and agree on some kind of standard, but I've been waiting for over 20 years and no soap yet. But it can be done. It's not likely to get done with any open source product because there are no "developer's control organizations" that limit the next guy with the "better" idea from revising the source code or specs. Even W3C (HTML) wasn't able to maintain standards beyond 4.01 so now we have "recommended practices", and there are a lot more reasons to standardize HTML than for Linux. -- Best regards, Neil |
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