Windows 10 automatically installed itself.

I have 2 PC computers that I primarily use where as my wife has one.
Both of my PC's are running Windows 10 was all updates however my wife
has resisted going to 10. I can understand why because of the way she
uses her computer.

Every time that MS has queried as to whether she wants to upgrade she
or I have refused. Saturday morning she went in to do her stuff and
found out that Microsoft had summarily installed 10 and if she did not
want it she had to request to return to the previous OS (8.1) which I
did. It took about 35 to 40 minutes to get her computer back the way
it was. And so far she hasn't noticed if anything is messed up. We
have our fingers crossed.

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?

Oh, and by the way her computer is a HP they came with Windows OS on
it when she bought it.

Thank you,
Albert

On 13/03/2016 21:05, Albert wrote:

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?


Microsoft or any other entity CAN'T get into your computer if you have
some common sense of cofiguring your machine so that no programs can be
installed without your express permission.

You say you are using Windows 7 and so there is a way to stop automatic
updates but people like you don't seem to know anything about computers
despite these have been around since the 1980s. Some of us weren't even
born then but we have known how to control our machines so that nothing
is installed on it unless we want to install something.

Now do some research how to configure your machine and your wife;s
machine so that none of you get automatic updates.

Some of us are already on Windows 10 and we love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck.





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On 3/13/16 3:31 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 13/03/2016 21:05, Albert wrote:

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?


Microsoft or any other entity CAN'T get into your computer if you have
some common sense of cofiguring your machine so that no programs can be
installed without your express permission.

You say you are using Windows 7 and so there is a way to stop automatic
updates but people like you don't seem to know anything about computers
despite these have been around since the 1980s. Some of us weren't even
born then but we have known how to control our machines so that nothing
is installed on it unless we want to install something.

Obviously, you did not read with comprehension, if you can read at all.
She had 8.1 on the computer.

Now do some research how to configure your machine and your wife;s
machine so that none of you get automatic updates.

Some of us are already on Windows 10 and we love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are those who like the childish, simpleton system. Apparently,
matches your reading skills.


--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 44.0
Thunderbird 38.0.1
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and it's gone!"

On 03/13/2016 04:05 PM, Albert wrote:
I have 2 PC computers that I primarily use where as my wife has one.
Both of my PC's are running Windows 10 was all updates however my wife
has resisted going to 10. I can understand why because of the way she
uses her computer.

Every time that MS has queried as to whether she wants to upgrade she
or I have refused. Saturday morning she went in to do her stuff and
found out that Microsoft had summarily installed 10 and if she did not
want it she had to request to return to the previous OS (8.1) which I
did. It took about 35 to 40 minutes to get her computer back the way
it was. And so far she hasn't noticed if anything is messed up. We
have our fingers crossed.

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?

Oh, and by the way her computer is a HP they came with Windows OS on
it when she bought it.

Thank you,
Albert




Sheesh

look at this

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29831...it-anyway.html

On 13/03/2016 22:36, Ken Springer wrote:

Obviously, you did not read with comprehension, if you can read at
all. She had 8.1 on the computer.


this changes nothing in my reply. It applies to Windows 7 and/or
Windows 8.1. An Octogenarian would have used the common sense to
interpret the solution given.



There are those who like the childish, simpleton system. Apparently,
matches your reading skills.



The childish simpleton system needs to be changed to match not only my
reading skills but my intelligence as well. However, people like you
seem to get duncer and duncer as you grow older. Have you thought of
getting a test for old people's brains?


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On 13/03/2016 22:52, philo wrote:



Sheesh

look at this

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29831...it-anyway.html


So you agree that the OP should know how to disable automatic update or
at least how to configure the machine so that no upgrades are downloaded
without express permission of the user.

One wonders when will these people learn how to control their own
machines! Mind boggles. They blame everybody except their own stupidity.




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On 13/03/2016 22:52, philo wrote:



Sheesh

look at this

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29831...it-anyway.html


So you agree that the OP should know how to disable automatic update or
at least how to configure the machine so that no upgrades are downloaded
without express permission of the user.

One wonders when will these people learn how to control their own
machines! Mind boggles. They blame everybody except their own stupidity.




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Could You tell me how to disable updates in Windows 10?

On 3/13/16 5:05 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 13/03/2016 22:36, Ken Springer wrote:

Obviously, you did not read with comprehension, if you can read at
all. She had 8.1 on the computer.


this changes nothing in my reply. It applies to Windows 7 and/or
Windows 8.1. An Octogenarian would have used the common sense to
interpret the solution given.

So, you're admitting to your inability to read, write, and understand
English at the adult level.

An octogenarian wouldn't give you the time of day.



There are those who like the childish, simpleton system. Apparently,
matches your reading skills.



The childish simpleton system needs to be changed to match not only my
reading skills but my intelligence as well.

As we've all discovered, you have poor reading skills.

However, people like you
seem to get duncer and duncer as you grow older. Have you thought of
getting a test for old people's brains?

Wouldn't want to embarrass you by scoring better than you.

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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 44.0
Thunderbird 38.0.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Albert wrote:

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?

Thank you,
Albert

Because she gave them permission and let them in.
Some people have installed GWX control panel.
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
I have not. Instead I examine every update, choose the ones that I want,
and hide the rest.

Albert wrote:
I have 2 PC computers that I primarily use where as my wife has one.
Both of my PC's are running Windows 10 was all updates however my wife
has resisted going to 10. I can understand why because of the way she
uses her computer.

Every time that MS has queried as to whether she wants to upgrade she
or I have refused. Saturday morning she went in to do her stuff and
found out that Microsoft had summarily installed 10 and if she did not
want it she had to request to return to the previous OS (8.1) which I
did. It took about 35 to 40 minutes to get her computer back the way
it was. And so far she hasn't noticed if anything is messed up. We
have our fingers crossed.

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?

Oh, and by the way her computer is a HP they came with Windows OS on
it when she bought it.

Thank you,
Albert

Install this, click the button.

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

Paul

On 3/13/2016 7:05 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 13/03/2016 22:36, Ken Springer wrote:

Obviously, you did not read with comprehension, if you can read at
all. She had 8.1 on the computer.


this changes nothing in my reply. It applies to Windows 7 and/or
Windows 8.1. An Octogenarian would have used the common sense to
interpret the solution given.



There are those who like the childish, simpleton system. Apparently,
matches your reading skills.



The childish simpleton system needs to be changed to match not only my
reading skills but my intelligence as well. However, people like you
seem to get duncer and duncer as you grow older. Have you thought of
getting a test for old people's brains?


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At your intelligence level, it seems you would know to share your
knowledge and not put people down just because in YOUR OPINION they say
something dumb.

Remember the Bible says "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you."

I hope you do not expect others to respond to you as you responded to Albert

On 3/13/16 6:55 PM, Mayayana wrote:
| QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
| and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?
|

A simple question, but you seem to be getting
only wiseass answers. To put it simply....

Microsoft recently reclassified Win10 as a
"recommended update". They choose to pretend
they have your permission to install Win10
because the default setting for Windows Update
is to install recommended updates automatically.
So if you've never specifically taken control of
Windows Update then you've been letting them
onto your machine, whether you knew it or not.

You have two choices: Research the details and
be very careful about how you allow Windows
Update to run, or disable Windows Update
altogether and disable the WU service.

The latter option is preferable for two reasons:

1) You probably won't really need any new updates
coming along, as long as you don't run Microsoft
software online. (Don't use IE or Outlook. Avoid MS
Office if possible.) The critical updates are mostly
for non-Windows components. Actual Windows
security updates are rare.

2) Stopping Win10 is a moving target. Microsoft
are determined to force it on you, by hook or
by crook. The method that blocks it this month
may not work next month.

If you don't want Microsoft or others coming onto
your machine you really should look into installing
firewall software. Then set it up to block all
uninitiated communication in or out.

http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...ge/results.php

Unfortunately, the days of only worrying about
Russian hackers are gone. Windows is now malware.
Most software you install now spies on you in some
degree. As do most websites. It's up to you to
inform yourself and do as you see fit.

Hi, Mayayana,

One aspect that never seems to come up in these W10 update discussions,
is while you own the hardware, at this point in time you do not own the
software, in this case W?????.

In any EULA I've ever read, you have a *license* to use the software,
you don't own it. Therefore, MS owns the OS and can do any darn thing
it wants to with it without your permission.

So the only way to stop all the "forced" updates is, as you said, simply
turn everything off relating to updates from MS, regardless of whether
the update fixes MS issues, or 3rd party hardware and software issues.
Maybe that would be a problem, maybe it won't.

As I learned today on my brother-in-law's computer, downloading a file
from the manufacturer (HP) doesn't always solve the problem.

He's got an HP laptop with switchable graphics that wasn't working.
Tracked the problem down to the driver likely being the problem.
Downloaded said driver from HP. Crashed no matter what I did.

Today, I deleted the drivers for both graphics cards, which removed the
cards from Device Manager. Rebooted the computer.

To my surprise, when the computer rebooted, the system found the cards
as expected, and began downloading drivers from MS Update. We sat
patiently until the system installed both drivers, and the problem was
solved.

The original plan today was to go to AMD's site and get the driver, but
didn't have to.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 44.0
Thunderbird 38.0.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

| QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
| and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?
|

A simple question, but you seem to be getting
only wiseass answers. To put it simply....

Microsoft recently reclassified Win10 as a
"recommended update". They choose to pretend
they have your permission to install Win10
because the default setting for Windows Update
is to install recommended updates automatically.
So if you've never specifically taken control of
Windows Update then you've been letting them
onto your machine, whether you knew it or not.

You have two choices: Research the details and
be very careful about how you allow Windows
Update to run, or disable Windows Update
altogether and disable the WU service.

The latter option is preferable for two reasons:

1) You probably won't really need any new updates
coming along, as long as you don't run Microsoft
software online. (Don't use IE or Outlook. Avoid MS
Office if possible.) The critical updates are mostly
for non-Windows components. Actual Windows
security updates are rare.

2) Stopping Win10 is a moving target. Microsoft
are determined to force it on you, by hook or
by crook. The method that blocks it this month
may not work next month.

If you don't want Microsoft or others coming onto
your machine you really should look into installing
firewall software. Then set it up to block all
uninitiated communication in or out.

http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...ge/results.php

Unfortunately, the days of only worrying about
Russian hackers are gone. Windows is now malware.
Most software you install now spies on you in some
degree. As do most websites. It's up to you to
inform yourself and do as you see fit.

"Good Guy" wrote in message ...
On 13/03/2016 21:05, Albert wrote:

QUESTION: how can Microsoft or any other entity go into her computer
and do what they did without her knowledge or permission?


Microsoft or any other entity CAN'T get into your computer if you have some common sense of cofiguring your machine so that no programs can be installed without your express permission.

You say you are using Windows 7 and so there is a way to stop automatic updates but people like you don't seem to know anything about computers despite these have been around since the 1980s. Some of us weren't even born then but we have known how to control our machines so that nothing is installed on it unless we want to install something.

Now do some research how to configure your machine and your wife;s machine so that none of you get automatic updates.

Some of us are already on Windows 10 and we love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck.





If you don’t have anything constructive to say, it’s best to STFU. In that way you won’t look like a horses ass.

On 13/03/2016 23:45, Moss Grimmik wrote:

Could You tell me how to disable updates in Windows 10?

Two ways:

1) You can disable automatic updates completely by going to Services and
from their look for an item called Windows Update. Right-click on it
and choose disable.

Windows-Update http://s15.postimg.org/mvuzvor23/2016_03_14_0133.png

I like windows update so I have got it as default.

2) go to Settings and change it to something like this:


Reschedule start of puter
http://s27.postimg.org/jdusuznur/2016_03_14_0128.png


There is evidence that this setting will ensure you don't get bothered
for months!!!

By the way the OP was using some fringe system that all sensible people
have stopped using them and my reply was specifically directed towards
those fringe systems. there are some idiots like Ken Springer and Keith
Nutter who are still using them but they are not in paid employment.
They are retired and working for charities for nothing.


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