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Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.



 
 
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  #61  
Old October 4th 16, 03:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

PAS wrote:

On 10/3/2016 10:29 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-03 19:06, Alan Baker wrote:
[...]
What harm does it do Ireland to accept businesses that would not
otherwise have a presence there, and get taxes from them?

[...]

A whore solicits customers.

Are you equating the government to whores? That's an insult to whores.


+1

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  #62  
Old October 4th 16, 06:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 2016-10-04 6:10 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-03 23:55, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 7:20 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-03 18:22, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 2:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article nospam wrote:

now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to
apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely
legal.

also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax
code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do
the same thing.

after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu.

in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's
questionable
whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN


1180WR

The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries
Ireland
tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless
nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was
paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due
to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed
companies
to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the
economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be
bailed
out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits.

When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that
farce,
time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be
mutual.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html




Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else
does:
i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws?

Again: The Apple deal (and some others too) violated Ireland's own tax
laws. These deals were kept secret until some furshlugginer so'n'so went
whinging to the EU Commission about it. That's when the **** hit the
fan. The Irish Parliamentarians are covered in it.

Have a good day,


Ireland disagrees with you.


The Irish Government does. Of course. So what?


So they're in a far better position to know what is an is not legal in
Ireland.

:-)
  #63  
Old October 4th 16, 06:33 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system, alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Cornelis Tromp
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Wolf K
wrote:

Read the Washington Post articles on the issue. On August 30, 2016, WP
reported:
"Apple paid a tax rate of 1 percent or even less ‹ 0.0005 percent, in
some years ‹..."


so did google, facebook, intel and others.

your issue is with *ireland*, not apple.


WP also reports (repeatedly) that Ireland made a special deal with
Apple.


don't believe everything you read.

google, facebook, intel and others are benefiting from this supposed
apple deal.

the reality is that it's the tax code and it would be foolish to *not*
take advantage of it.


  #64  
Old October 4th 16, 07:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system
Cornelis Tromp
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
Alan Baker wrote:

On 2016-10-04 6:10 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-03 23:55, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 7:20 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-03 18:22, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 2:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article nospam wrote:

now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to
apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely
legal.

also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax
code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do
the same thing.

after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu.

in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's
questionable
whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN


1180WR

The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries
Ireland
tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless
nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was
paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due
to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed
companies
to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the
economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be
bailed
out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits.

When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that
farce,
time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be
mutual.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html




Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else
does:
i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws?

Again: The Apple deal (and some others too) violated Ireland's own tax
laws. These deals were kept secret until some furshlugginer so'n'so went
whinging to the EU Commission about it. That's when the **** hit the
fan. The Irish Parliamentarians are covered in it.

Have a good day,

Ireland disagrees with you.


The Irish Government does. Of course. So what?


So they're in a far better position to know what is an is not legal in
Ireland.

:-)


  #65  
Old October 4th 16, 08:16 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

I am not an Apple user (my wife is because two of our kids use facetime).

However, I am grateful to Apple for something they DID 'invent' - CUPS.
The Common Unix Printing System which (as far as I know) every Linux desktop
uses for printing.

No need to thank me

Alan


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  #66  
Old October 4th 16, 08:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

pinnerite wrote:

I am not an Apple user (my wife is because two of our kids use facetime).

However, I am grateful to Apple for something they DID 'invent' - CUPS.
The Common Unix Printing System which (as far as I know) every Linux
desktop uses for printing.

No need to thank me


They did *not* invent CUPS. They simply paid for it and its author. And it
is still open source as it was from the start, and they can't change that.
It would simply be forked then


  #67  
Old October 4th 16, 08:51 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

pinnerite wrote:

I am not an Apple user (my wife is because two of our kids use facetime).

However, I am grateful to Apple for something they DID 'invent' - CUPS.


Idiot.

The Common Unix Printing System which (as far as I know) every Linux desktop
uses for printing.

No need to thank me


No need to thank Apple, either, since they did not invent CUPS.

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  #68  
Old October 4th 16, 09:22 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 10/03/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
snip

Change of subject here, but have you downloaded Sierra yet?

If so, did it speed up any?

  #69  
Old October 4th 16, 10:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

pinnerite wrote:

I am not an Apple user (my wife is because two of our kids use facetime).

However, I am grateful to Apple for something they DID 'invent' - CUPS.


Apple didn't invent CUPS. In fact they bought it to get around GPL
requirements in order to continue building closed source components even
based on primarily GPLed software. Nothing to be proud of. It just
demonstrates what money can buy.

  #70  
Old October 4th 16, 11:34 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system, alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
GreyCloud wrote:

On 10/03/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
snip

Change of subject here, but have you downloaded Sierra yet?

If so, did it speed up any?


  #71  
Old October 5th 16, 04:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-04 18:41, Nathan Hale wrote:
In article


Absolutely nothing from Nathan Hale showed up here. Nathan apparnetly
doesn't know how to post to a newsgroup.


He regrets that he has only zero lines to give to this thread ;-)

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  #72  
Old October 5th 16, 09:40 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 2016-10-04 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
snip

Change of subject here, but have you downloaded Sierra yet?

If so, did it speed up any?


No, not yet.

I try and live by the advice I give my clients: don't rush to adopt the
latest thing.

:-)
  #73  
Old October 5th 16, 12:45 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system, alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
Alan Baker wrote:

On 2016-10-04 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
snip

Change of subject here, but have you downloaded Sierra yet?

If so, did it speed up any?


No, not yet.

I try and live by the advice I give my clients: don't rush to adopt the
latest thing.

:-)


  #74  
Old October 5th 16, 06:05 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 10/05/2016 02:40 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-04 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
snip

Change of subject here, but have you downloaded Sierra yet?

If so, did it speed up any?


No, not yet.

I try and live by the advice I give my clients: don't rush to adopt the
latest thing.

:-)


That's why I'm asking. The 4k iMac is nice, but it is so slow.
Should've paid the extra money with one with a faster hard drive or a
big SSD.

BTW, when you receive email with a photo attached, and then you select
the photo for printout, does the preview pane show only a portion of the
photo? We're having this problem on and off since last spring.

Could it be tied to the HP printer driver?

  #75  
Old October 5th 16, 09:18 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

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On 2016-10-05 1:05 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/05/2016 02:40 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-04 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:08 PM, Alan Baker wrote: snip

Change of subject here, but have you downloaded Sierra yet?

If so, did it speed up any?


No, not yet.

I try and live by the advice I give my clients: don't rush to
adopt the latest thing.

:-)


That's why I'm asking. The 4k iMac is nice, but it is so slow.
Should've paid the extra money with one with a faster hard drive or
a big SSD.


Regardless of what Mac heads tell you, OS X is slow no matter what
kind of processor or amount of memory you throw at it. Apple is happy
to see you spend the money but reward you with nothing at all. I
recall getting my parents to pay for a 4GB upgrade on their Mac Mini
to bring the total to 8GB. There's a 5400 RPM HD in there but even
that kind of old technology would work relatively well with Linux or
Windows on it. On the Mac? Disgusting. My parents felt _no change_
from 4GB to 8GB despiet assurances from zealots that the experience
would be fantastic. Maybe things will change once the filesystem is
replaced (did it happen yet?) but I doubt it; optimization is
something absolutely no one at Apple can even spell much less implement.

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