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November 26th 18, 02:08 AM
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Bootable standalone utility to format HDD?
My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but
fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA 
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November 26th 18, 11:06 AM
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Bootable standalone utility to format HDD?
Jason wrote:
My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA DBAN is currently a 17MB ISO file, for making a CD. When using it, select the *one pass* option. Using 35 pass would make a major dent in SSD drive life! If you cannot find a one pass option, exit the utility. https://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/files/ DBAN is a drive eraser, intended for people selling used hard drives on Ebay or whatever. Paul
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November 26th 18, 01:22 PM
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:08:30 -0500, Jason wrote:
My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA A Linux standalone will have Gparted and perhaps other utilities that will format a partition. Mint is a good candidate, handy to have around.
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November 26th 18, 02:02 PM
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| I'd like to try to format it and then | reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is | there a recommended one? TIA | How does the Acronis image get installed? Doesn't that have a bootable utility to do the job? That utility should take care of deleting old partitions and putting in the image as a new partition. That's the whole point of disk image backup. It's an *image* of the system partition, not a data backup. Any program that does disk image backup should include a bootable partition and imaging tool.
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November 26th 18, 02:27 PM
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On 26/11/2018 15.02, Mayayana wrote:
"Jason" wrote | I'd like to try to format it and then | reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is | there a recommended one? TIA | How does the Acronis image get installed? Doesn't that have a bootable utility to do the job? That utility should take care of deleting old partitions and putting in the image as a new partition. That's the whole point of disk image backup. It's an *image* of the system partition, not a data backup. Any program that does disk image backup should include a bootable partition and imaging tool. And any rescue disk should, too. But there are also tools that do more sophisticated repair than checkdisk does. Once I bought one that was test and pay if you like it. Restorer Ultimate. http://www.restorer-ultimate.com/ -- Cheers, Carlos.
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November 26th 18, 03:58 PM
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November 26th 18, 04:02 PM
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November 26th 18, 04:57 PM
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On 11/25/18 8:08 PM, Jason wrote:
My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA Have you made a backup since this problem started? If so, restoring the backup would restore the problem. One reason it's a good idea to have 2 independent backups (the last one, and the one before it), so you can restore a good one. Reformatting the partition would give you a good partition until you restore bad data to it. -- 29 days until the winter celebration (Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It is in the book of man, not the book of god, that we must look for examples of heroism, love, pity, justice, truth, honor, humanity." [M.M. Mangasarian, _The Bible Unveiled_]
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November 26th 18, 05:19 PM
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Jason wrote:
In article , am says... That's the whole point of disk image backup. It's an *image* of the system partition, not a data backup. That's correct, it's not just a file backup, it works sector-by-sector. I'm suspicious that that will simply restore everything, including the corrupted bitmap which is, after all, a file. A lot of backup utilities, will refuse to back up corrupted partitions. You can override this, in which case, you're shooting yourself in the foot. If you used "dd" to make a backup, then of course the restored materials will be corrupted (they will be as corrupt as the original partition was). That's why "dd" is only used on special occasions, for backing up known-healthy things. Paul
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November 26th 18, 05:59 PM
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November 26th 18, 06:00 PM
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November 26th 18, 07:02 PM
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Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Jason wrote: In article - september.org, says... My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I wound up removing the drive and using an external enclosure to attatch it to a laptop where I was able to use Windows to format it as a new drive. Then I restored it from the backup. When I then ran chkdsk, it ran to completion, reporting no errors. I've put it back in the original machine and it seems ok. Fingers crossed... Keep in mind that a slightly oxidized connector will those types of errors. I usually re-seat the drive or drive cables several times and see if it then works ok. SATA is nominally Gold-on-Gold. If they short on the 10u plating, there can be pinholes in the finish. (A quality finish would have been 50u.) For cable errors, there is a separate error counter in SMART. That might be Ultra DMA CRC Error count. https://superuser.com/questions/8683...rc-error-count The CRC error refers to some protection of the SATA packets on the cable. If arriving packets have bad CRC, that's what gets counted. This is *different* than a CRC error (so-called) coming from the storage media itself. The media can have uncorrectable errors, but the method isn't exactly CRC. It's another polynomial type. This is about the simplest picture you can draw for a SATA packet on the cable. (There's a whole boring spec, with the details.) SOF Payload Data CRC EOF https://i.postimg.cc/5yFDpmJW/packet.jpg Paul
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November 26th 18, 07:15 PM
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Jason wrote:
In article - september.org, says... My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I wound up removing the drive and using an external enclosure to attatch it to a laptop where I was able to use Windows to format it as a new drive. Then I restored it from the backup. When I then ran chkdsk, it ran to completion, reporting no errors. I've put it back in the original machine and it seems ok. Fingers crossed... You only responded partly to Mayayana's Mayayana How does the Acronis image get installed? Doesn't that have a bootable utility to do the job? That utility should take care of deleting old partitions and putting in the image as a new partition. /Mayayana Such a bootable utility [1] probably also has the means to do (a chkdsk and) a format, so you would not have needed to put the drive in an external enclosure and later put it back in the original machine. I'm sure Acronis has such a bootable utility. [1] Called 'Rescue media' in Macrium Reflect (Free).
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November 26th 18, 10:10 PM
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Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote: Jason wrote: In article - september.org, says... My Win 10 SSD C: drive suddenly reports errors that chkdsk tries but fails to repair. It reports that the bitmap is corrupted. The disk may have failed, but before I give up I'd like to try to format it and then reload from an Acronis image backup. I'm sure such utilities exist. Is there a recommended one? TIA Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I wound up removing the drive and using an external enclosure to attatch it to a laptop where I was able to use Windows to format it as a new drive. Then I restored it from the backup. When I then ran chkdsk, it ran to completion, reporting no errors. I've put it back in the original machine and it seems ok. Fingers crossed... Keep in mind that a slightly oxidized connector will those types of errors. I usually re-seat the drive or drive cables several times and see if it then works ok. SATA is nominally Gold-on-Gold. If they short on the 10u plating, there can be pinholes in the finish. (A quality finish would have been 50u.) For cable errors, there is a separate error counter in SMART. That might be Ultra DMA CRC Error count. https://superuser.com/questions/8683...rc-error-count The CRC error refers to some protection of the SATA packets on the cable. If arriving packets have bad CRC, that's what gets counted. This is *different* than a CRC error (so-called) coming from the storage media itself. The media can have uncorrectable errors, but the method isn't exactly CRC. It's another polynomial type. This is about the simplest picture you can draw for a SATA packet on the cable. (There's a whole boring spec, with the details.) SOF Payload Data CRC EOF https://i.postimg.cc/5yFDpmJW/packet.jpg Paul Thanks Paul. Good info.
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