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Virtual Machines Rock !
Got 16 bit stuff ?
Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. |
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Mike wrote:
On 2/10/2019 11:42 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote: wrote: Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. Wish it would allow running an IDE drive on a SATA only machine. Don't know what you want to accomplish, but where would you plug an IDE drive on a SATA only machine, software notwithstanding? There are SATA/IDE hardware adapters. Don't remember whether I ever tried to boot from one. It is possible to boot from an IDE drive in an external USB box. I've tried all of those plus bios settings. My GA-7 Gamer won't allow booting from XP or IDE via adaptors or USB. I have several of each. My last XP machine burned out its mother board last year and I've ordered a FoxConn replacement MB with both IDE and SATA plugs. |
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On 2/10/2019 12:31 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Mike wrote: On 2/10/2019 11:42 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote: wrote: Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. IIRC, VB3 and VB4.5 are interpreted. VB5 is compiled. Maybe that's the issue. Missing pieces of the interpreter. IF so, may be easier to port to VB5 than VB6. Don't remember if VB5 still required 16-bit support to run. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. Wish it would allow running an IDE drive on a SATA only machine. Don't know what you want to accomplish, but where would you plug an IDE drive on a SATA only machine, software notwithstanding? There are SATA/IDE hardware adapters. Don't remember whether I ever tried to boot from one. It is possible to boot from an IDE drive in an external USB box. I've tried all of those plus bios settings.Â* My GA-7 Gamer won't allow booting from XP or IDE via adaptors or USB. I have several of each. My last XP machine burned out its mother board last year and I've ordered a FoxConn replacement MB with both IDE and SATA plugs. I don't have any new motherboards or EFI stuff. Don't know what restrictions they have implemented. I am booting win7 32-bit from USB in legacy BIOS mode. I use it for stuff like taxes that I don't want to have access from/to the internet. |
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Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Mike wrote: On 2/10/2019 11:42 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote: wrote: Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. Wish it would allow running an IDE drive on a SATA only machine. Don't know what you want to accomplish, but where would you plug an IDE drive on a SATA only machine, software notwithstanding? There are SATA/IDE hardware adapters. Don't remember whether I ever tried to boot from one. It is possible to boot from an IDE drive in an external USB box. I've tried all of those plus bios settings. My GA-7 Gamer won't allow booting from XP or IDE via adaptors or USB. I have several of each. My last XP machine burned out its mother board last year and I've ordered a FoxConn replacement MB with both IDE and SATA plugs. So you've tried one of these then ? "SYBA SD-ADA50016 SATA II to IDE ATA133 Bi-directional Adapter" https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16812186078 Some of the chips used are bidirectional designs. You use only one of the SATA connectors on one of those, at a time. It's probably the same as this one. Note that the previous advert lies, in that it says the adapter is SATA II, whereas the era chips like this were made in, would be a SATA I era. https://www.startech.com/HDD/Adapter...ter~PATA2SATA3 Chipset ID SunplusIT - SPIF223A Type and Rate SATA I (1.5 Gbps) The adapter is female. Both motherboards and drives are male. With this type of adapter, you can't do "two drives off an IDE motherboard" since the adapter plugs right into the motherboard and prevents a second SATA from being used. Some adapters plug into ribbon cables, which allows using two adapters and two drives, off a common cable, one as Master, one as Slave. Not relevant to your interest in running a single IDE hard drive (jumpered Master) off a SATA port. The bidirectional adapter should not have limitations when used to run IDE drives off a SATA motherboard. Some adapters have a "Master/Slave" jumper on the adapter controller board. That's for when you want to run two SATA drives off one IDE cable for example. I have one of those, my only adapter, is the opposite direction of the one you're looking for. The motherboard should really be transparent to the adapter. And there's a reason for this. The first generation of SATA drives were "bridged" and had a 100MB/sec cap caused by the usage of... you guessed it, one of those adapter chips right on the surface of the disk controller PCB. Motherboards had to treat those "bodged, new SATA tech" drives as if they were SATA, even though internally they were IDE with a bridge chip to make them SATA. The very next generation of SATA drives got native interfaces and the bridge chip was no longer needed. I think I have at least one drive here, that might be a bridged one to make SATA output. The HDTune benchmark for such drives, is "clipped" to 100MB/sec for the first 20% of the drive capacity. That's how you can detect bridging. Paul |
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:42:44 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
wrote: wrote: Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. Wish it would allow running an IDE drive on a SATA only machine. Buy an IDE adapter card. They start around $25 on Amazon.com. Alternatively buy an USB IDE enclosure for external drives and mount the IDE drive in it. They start around $20. |
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On 2/10/2019 3:11 PM, pjp wrote:
In article , says... Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. I just installeed both Virtual PC and VirtualBox. VirtualPC and no USB means it got deleted quickly. VirtualBox didn't seem to want to use the network card properly and I gave up in frustation and deleted it also. Can't tell your definition of 'properly', but there are several network options in Virutalbox. |
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Virtual Machines Rock !
VMs do rock. I use it for work and personal tasks. It's nice to test
stuff without messing with my real machines. -- Happy Chinese New Year (Earth Pig)! Oink! Return of The Worker Ant soon? Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.ma.cx. Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( ) |
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Also, which VM program? VMware? VirtualBox?
wrote: Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. -- Happy Chinese New Year (Earth Pig)! Oink! Return of The Worker Ant soon? Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.ma.cx. Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( ) |
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pjp wrote:
In article , says... Got 16 bit stuff ? Create a virtual machine running an older version of Windows ( e.g. XP ) in memory. See Oracle VirtualBox. Very easy, handy and quick. I've got 28 great apps written in QuickBasic v4.5, and 14 in Windows Visual Basic v3 . I know there is a provision for running things in a compatibility mode for older versions of Windows, but I could never get it to work. In the virtual machine I have a desktop with 42 icons. Comes right up and all apps work great. Would be nice to have an app to convert all to VB6 which I use extensively for all ny contenporary stuff. I just installeed both Virtual PC and VirtualBox. VirtualPC and no USB means it got deleted quickly. VirtualBox didn't seem to want to use the network card properly and I gave up in frustation and deleted it also. Yeah, it's called a learning curve. Initially I was running VirtualBox with the "NAT" default, but my favorite option is Bridged Adapter. Note that finding the right driver for the Guest, can be a challenge some times, like if you're running WinXP or older, as a Guest. https://i.postimg.cc/W1gdN9CC/Virtual-Box-Network.gif VirtualBox is a bitch with regard to storage containers and "moving stuff around". It will make all sorts of extra work for you. Whereas VirtualPC lets the user mix and match bits and pieces of storage, without getting in the way all the time. VirtualBox has stopped upgrading for WinXP. If using WinXP as a Host, grab a copy of 5.2.22 and associated materials for a rainy day. Newer Host OSes can use the 6.x stream. Paul |
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