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Old February 21st 19, 11:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!

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Old February 21st 19, 11:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Ant wrote:
I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


I don't know the details of how it stores stuff.

I can tell you that I always download as an ISO.
That's for archival purposes.

Then I use this to put it on a USB Flash key. This is
copied from another post.

The first link is the README, the second link the download.

http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool

http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe

If you operate that tool from a 64-bit OS, it can make
32 bit or 64 bit USB sticks from 32 bit ISO or 64 bit ISO files.

The program might have been written by a third-party, as
the program has a strange installation location. And the program
might kick up a fuss. I notice one of my USB sticks here, it
looks like I might have defined a partition for it (8GB)
which was smaller than the whole USB stick. If the USB stick
is too large, the program might get bent out of shape about it.

In any case, I would not download to just a USB stick. I
would select ISO as my option, because I've used the
above program with ISOs from Vista to Windows 10 Insider
and it's always worked. Even if the program is "cranky"
and puts up a fight. I eventually get what I want from it.

If you install that program on a 32 bit system, extract a
32 bit copy of "bootsect.exe" from a Win10 ISO and put that
in the "Windows7-USB-DVD-tool" main folder. On a 64 bit system,
the program just works (but still cranky).

Paul
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Old February 22nd 19, 12:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Ant wrote:
I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


I told you if you want to avoid this "groundhog day" adventure access
the page via Linux and you can just download the dang ISO. No fuss, no muss

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Old February 22nd 19, 02:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Paul wrote:
Ant wrote:
I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


I don't know the details of how it stores stuff.


I can tell you that I always download as an ISO.
That's for archival purposes.


Then I use this to put it on a USB Flash key. This is
copied from another post.


The first link is the README, the second link the download.


http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool


http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe

....
I wonder why MS pulled these web pages down. They should have kept them up for those who want to make bootable USB
flash sticks from the downloaded ISO files!
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Old February 22nd 19, 02:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

On 22/02/2019 01:04, Ant wrote:
I wonder why MS pulled these web pages down. They should have kept
them up for those who want to make bootable USB flash sticks from the
downloaded ISO files!


You can make bootable USB disks from downloadable ISO files. Google has
all the answers if you make some effort to search for them.



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Old February 22nd 19, 02:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Ant wrote:
I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


I told you if you want to avoid this "groundhog day" adventure access
the page via Linux and you can just download the dang ISO. No fuss, no muss


So, how do I burn that ISO to a bootable USB flash stick then?
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Old February 22nd 19, 02:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Ant wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Ant wrote:
I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


I told you if you want to avoid this "groundhog day" adventure access
the page via Linux and you can just download the dang ISO. No fuss, no muss


So, how do I burn that ISO to a bootable USB flash stick then?



No need, just *copy* ISO to Windows computer and mount ISO within
Windows as Paul suggested. The thing is you now *have* the ISO and it
doesn't have to be re-downloaded if somethings fails like the Media
Creation Tool.

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Old February 22nd 19, 02:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Ant wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Ant wrote:
I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


I told you if you want to avoid this "groundhog day" adventure access
the page via Linux and you can just download the dang ISO. No fuss, no muss


So, how do I burn that ISO to a bootable USB flash stick then?



No need, just *copy* ISO to Windows computer and mount ISO within
Windows as Paul suggested. The thing is you now *have* the ISO and it
doesn't have to be re-downloaded if somethings fails like the Media
Creation Tool.


I was trying to do a CLEAN install from the bootable USB flash stick. I tried installing inside
W10, but it failed. However, installing new/clean from a bootable 64 GB USB flash stick worked
perfectly.

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Old February 22nd 19, 04:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Ant wrote:
I was trying to do a CLEAN install from the bootable USB flash stick.
I tried installing inside W10, but it failed.


Which is why I download an ISO prophylactically... Been burned by the
Media Creation Tool too often and I don't have broadband.

However, installing new/clean from a bootable 64 GB USB flash stick
worked perfectly.


+1

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Old February 22nd 19, 04:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

"Ant" wrote in message
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I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new
bootable
USB medias.


The MCT is just an executable to download and create the various types of
media for the current released version.
- older versions of MCT exe files previously saved locally will create the
media for the version for which they were released.

i.e. The current MCT is version 1809, the prior was 1803, and so going
backward.
Each, when run, download and create only the version of media for which they
were released.

It is not designed to re-use previously downloaded content(used to create
media or ISO files).


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Old February 22nd 19, 04:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Ant wrote:
I was trying to do a CLEAN install from the bootable USB flash stick.
I tried installing inside W10, but it failed.


Which is why I download an ISO prophylactically... Been burned by the
Media Creation Tool too often and I don't have broadband.


However, installing new/clean from a bootable 64 GB USB flash stick
worked perfectly.


+1


Yeah, too bad it couldn't keep its old settings and datas.
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Old February 22nd 19, 09:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Ant wrote:

I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


Okay, I'm confused (but then I haven't had my coffee yet). The Windows
10 Media Creation Tool lets you download an .iso file. Why aren't you
saving the .iso files?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZJEClyPnGg
At timemark 2:01, select to download an ISO file.

MCT is, as it is named, a media creation tool, not an incremental
updater.
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Old February 22nd 19, 10:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

VanguardLH wrote:
Ant wrote:

I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


Okay, I'm confused (but then I haven't had my coffee yet). The Windows
10 Media Creation Tool lets you download an .iso file. Why aren't you
saving the .iso files?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZJEClyPnGg
At timemark 2:01, select to download an ISO file.

MCT is, as it is named, a media creation tool, not an incremental
updater.


If you visit the web page from WinXP or Linux, you can be
offered just an ISO.

*******

Similarly, the Heidoc URL generator can generate a URL
usable in any OS, to download an ISO. Once the URL is generated,
click the Copy Buffer button, then paste into your favorite browser.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

"Requirements: Windows 7 or newer,
.NET Framework 4.x,
Internet Explorer 8 or newer.
"

You could also use the Powershell version of WGet which
uses BITS. The purpose of this, is it's a wee bit more reliable
(once started).

http://superuser.com/questions/36215...ows-powershell

(Open a powershell window, or command prompt and type powershell)

Import-Module BitsTransfer
Start-BitsTransfer -source "http://urlToDownload"

where the part between the double-quotes would be a paste from Heidoc tool.

Paul
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Old February 23rd 19, 12:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

VanguardLH wrote:
Ant wrote:


I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


Okay, I'm confused (but then I haven't had my coffee yet). The Windows
10 Media Creation Tool lets you download an .iso file. Why aren't you
saving the .iso files?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZJEClyPnGg
At timemark 2:01, select to download an ISO file.


MCT is, as it is named, a media creation tool, not an incremental
updater.


How would I make the USB flash drive bootable with it like optical discs?
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Old February 23rd 19, 02:54 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why does W10 media creation tool always have to redownload?

Ant wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
Ant wrote:


I noticed it keeps having to redownload every time I run it to make new bootable USB medias. Why? Shouldn't it
already have everything downloaded since it was completed earlier? W10 installers are huge!


Okay, I'm confused (but then I haven't had my coffee yet). The Windows
10 Media Creation Tool lets you download an .iso file. Why aren't you
saving the .iso files?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZJEClyPnGg
At timemark 2:01, select to download an ISO file.


MCT is, as it is named, a media creation tool, not an incremental
updater.


How would I make the USB flash drive bootable with it like optical discs?


Popup boot menu key (Preferred).
Try pressing F10 right after powerup and
keep pressing until a blue-framed menu shows up.

https://01.org/projectceladon/sites/...ges/splash.jpg

There will be two entries

Windows 10 UEFI

Windows 10

Since the USB key is a hybrid, it boots either. If you want
to do a UEFI/GPT install, then you'd select the first option.
If you wanted a legacy MSDOS installation (with 1MB alignment),
you'd use the second option.

*******

Or in the BIOS setup screen. Some BIOS setup screens also allow
including the current USB sticks to show as options. But
this is an inconvenient way to do it, since the intention of
the BIOS setup screen is to make "permanent" changes. The
F10 popup boot is for "temporary" boot choices.

Paul
 




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