Windows is compressing photos I send

If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer Send
to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230 kb.
However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size results
in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original image?
Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in order to get a
nice, detailed image to the recipient.

Thanks

Walter

"Walter E." wrote in message
...

If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer
Send to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230 kb.
However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size results
in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original
image?

Other apps with an email option (e.g. IrfanView) allow the user
to send the photo compressed or uncompressed. Win7 Mailer
probably sends attached graphics uncompressed. (I prefer
Thunderbird to Mailer.)
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

In message , Mayayana
writes:
| How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original
image?
| Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in order to get
a
| nice, detailed image to the recipient.
|

Then don't use ninny functions like "Send to
mail recipient". Just attach the image file to
an email, and use a decent email program.
Maybe Thunderbird. You didn't mention the
email program, but that could be the problem.

Rather a condescending response! I use an email prog., but I
occasionally use the "Send to mail recipient" function. On XP,
(a) it opens my email prog. to send the email anyway, and
(b) it asks whether I want to leave uncompressed or compress (and
there's a more options where I can select from three sizes). It sounds
as if the W7 version of "Send to mail recipient" doesn't - or, I
suspect, does but in a less obvious manner.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

This was before we knew that a laboratory rat, if experimented upon, will
develop cancer. [Quoted by] Anne ), 1997-1-29

Walter E. wrote:

If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer Send
to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230 kb.
However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size results
in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original image?
Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in order to get a
nice, detailed image to the recipient.

And we are to guess as to which e-mail program or webmail service you
use? /Windows 7 does not come with an e-mail client/ so just which one
are YOU using? You sure in that unidentified program that it has no
configuration regarding compression of attachments? You sure your file
is even getting attached to your e-mail and perhaps is getting uploaded
to some online storage and what gets put into your e-mail is a hyperlink
to the uploaded file?

Windows is not applying any compression. The Send To link is
transferring the file to a handler (e-mail client) but you didn't tell
us which one that is. When you figure that out, there are newsgroups to
discuss some e-mail client where those communities would be more focused
on how to use THAT e-mail program.

| How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original
image?
| Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in order to get
a
| nice, detailed image to the recipient.
|

Then don't use ninny functions like "Send to
mail recipient". Just attach the image file to
an email, and use a decent email program.
Maybe Thunderbird. You didn't mention the
email program, but that could be the problem.
(For instance, if one sends an image on an
iPhone there are 3 size choices, but there
seems to be no control over compression, file
type, or editing options aside from that. It's
the price of convenience.

You are right, this is probably caused by my crummy e-mail client: Windows
Live mail.

Maybe I should change to Thunderbird or Outlook

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Walter E. wrote:

If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer
Send
to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230
kb.
However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size
results
in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original
image?
Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in order to
get a
nice, detailed image to the recipient.

And we are to guess as to which e-mail program or webmail service you
use? /Windows 7 does not come with an e-mail client/ so just which one
are YOU using? You sure in that unidentified program that it has no
configuration regarding compression of attachments? You sure your file
is even getting attached to your e-mail and perhaps is getting uploaded
to some online storage and what gets put into your e-mail is a hyperlink
to the uploaded file?

Windows is not applying any compression. The Send To link is
transferring the file to a handler (e-mail client) but you didn't tell
us which one that is. When you figure that out, there are newsgroups to
discuss some e-mail client where those communities would be more focused
on how to use THAT e-mail program.

In message , Mayayana
writes:
[]
It's one way or the other. Convenience or
functionality. For anyone who actually deals with
image editing at all it would make no sense to
use limited functions that decide what size image
will be sent. And a JPG, which is what would usually
be sent, won't compress to speak of because it's
already compressed. Walter seems to be talking
about willy nilly resizing rather than compression.
He's mixing up the two.

Conversely, if people want a one-click solution
they have no grounds for complaining when they
don't get the options they want. It's bad enough
[]
Assuming the original post means that W7's "Send to ... email recipient"
function is different to XP's, then IMO that's a backwards step. The
convenience of that route shouldn't remove functionality. If I select
that option in XP, I get a popup headed "Send Pictures via E-Mail", with
two radio buttons in it: "Make all my pictures smaller" and "Keep the
original sizes". [Yes, it's offering resizing rather than (data)
compression.] This is _before_ it passes it to the default email
software. Hang on ... (wakes up W7 machine I get a popup (doesn't
contain a thumbnail of the image like it did in XP!) headed "Attach
Files", with a dropdown called "Picture size" that is defaulting to
"Medium: 1024 x 768", and it tells me the Total estimated size
(presumably Total for if I'd selected more than one image).

However, and this is the answer for the original poster if he's still
with us!: the bottom option in that dropdown is Original Size. So it's
still there, just as one of six options, rather than one of two radio
buttons as it was in XP.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you bate your breath do you catch a lung fish? (Glynn Greenwood 1996-8-23.)

| Rather a condescending response!

It's one way or the other. Convenience or
functionality. For anyone who actually deals with
image editing at all it would make no sense to
use limited functions that decide what size image
will be sent. And a JPG, which is what would usually
be sent, won't compress to speak of because it's
already compressed. Walter seems to be talking
about willy nilly resizing rather than compression.
He's mixing up the two.

Conversely, if people want a one-click solution
they have no grounds for complaining when they
don't get the options they want. It's bad enough
that people on the other end have to deal with
10 MB cat pictures or 35 KB portrait photos that
are so degraded as to be composed of color
rectangles. Come to think of it, if Walter sends
me his cat pictures, I very much hope his email
program knows enough to shrink them down to
thumbnail size.

On 18-Mar-2016 17:26, Walter E. wrote:
You are right, this is probably caused by my crummy e-mail client:
Windows Live mail.

Maybe I should change to Thunderbird or Outlook


big snip

Here you go:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all/

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:30:05 -0700, Walter E. wrote in alt.windows7.general:

If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer Send
to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230 kb.
However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size results
in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original image?
Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in order to get a
nice, detailed image to the recipient.


At the point where Windows 7 tells you that the image will be 230 KB,
change the "Picture size" drop-down from "Medium" to "Original size".

Screen-shot --- http://imgur.com/p4KBfTA


--
Kind regards
Ralph

Walter E. wrote:
If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer
Send to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230
kb. However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size
results in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original
image? Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in
order to get a nice, detailed image to the recipient.

Thanks

Walter
The Send to mail option uses the built in Photo Viewer engine for size
options prior to passing control to default mail client.

When you rt click an email photo and use the Send to mail recipient you
are presented with a dialog box - that box has options - Smaller, Small,
Medium, Large, Original Size.
- Choose Original size

Did you miss the above dialog box ???

i.e. its not WLM as others might lead you to believe. With WLM as the
default client you will still have the options if having previously
chosen original size to, if desired, to reduce the size or use Photo
email. If you've no preference for the latter, ensure you configure WLM
to not use Photo Email(Options/Mail/Compose/uncheck convert to Photo
email).
--
....winston
msft mvp windows experience

Walter E. wrote:
You are right, this is probably caused by my crummy e-mail client:
Windows Live mail.

Maybe I should change to Thunderbird or Outlook

Conventional email (like the POP3 email my ISP provides),
you make an attachment to the message, and nobody messes
with it. There is no copy at the ISP, the email is delivered,
end of story. The ISP doesn't play with your photo
for fun and profit.

Webmail services, they "dissect" your email. They store
the image on their server. When the recipient views the
message, the image is a URL in the (HTML) message. The image is
fetched from the server. The image might remain on the
webmail server for a long time. And, since efficiency is
very important to a webmail company, they may reduce the
resolution of the preview, or reduce even the resolution
of what should be, the full photo. With webmail,
there is much opportunity for monkey business. A
webmail provider can even build a "profile" of you
as a user, and keep a cookie which other merchants
can track or whatever.

Whereas a traditional email service, is more like
a "bulk transport" service. I know which kind
I want to use.

Paul

Walter E. wrote:

You are right, this is probably caused by my crummy e-mail client: Windows
Live mail.

Windows Live Mail, as I recall, has a feature where attachments get sent
up to your OneDrive account; however, you must have WLM log into your
account to use the OneDrive service. I'm not talking about the login
credentials that you define to connect to their SMTP, IMAP, or POP
servers. I'm talking about the login of WLM itself to your Microsoft
account (Hotmail, Live, Outlook.com) which includes the OneDrive online
file storage service. Somewhere in WLM should be an option of how it
will handle attachments and perhaps some threshold in size for when it
will upload your attachment(s) while compressing them versus attaching
them as MIME parts within your e-mail.

There should be an option to NOT upload attachments to your OneDrive
account and instead encoded them into MIME parts within your e-mail.
Alternatively, you could configure WLM to *not* connect to your
Microsoft account so WLM won't have that channel to handle the
attachment(s).

The WLM newsgroup is over at microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop.

winston wrote:

Walter E. wrote:

If I want to e-mail a photo, I click on the image file in my computer
Send to Mail Recipient.

At that point Windows tells me that the image to be mailed will be 230
kb. However, the original image is 500 kb. This reduction in file size
results in a smaller image appearing at the recipients computer.

How can I control the compression that windows applies to my original
image? Actually, I don't want windows to compress the file at all in
order to get a nice, detailed image to the recipient.

The Send to mail option uses the built in Photo Viewer engine for size
options prior to passing control to default mail client.

When you rt click an email photo and use the Send to mail recipient you
are presented with a dialog box - that box has options - Smaller, Small,
Medium, Large, Original Size.
- Choose Original size

Did you miss the above dialog box ???

i.e. its not WLM as others might lead you to believe. With WLM as the
default client you will still have the options if having previously
chosen original size to, if desired, to reduce the size or use Photo
email. If you've no preference for the latter, ensure you configure WLM
to not use Photo Email(Options/Mail/Compose/uncheck convert to Photo
email).

Interesting info. Works only if using "Sent to - Mail recipient" on
certain filetypes, like jpg. Never encountered that since I don't send
image files using the Send To context menu method. I'm usually
composing an e-mail and then decide to have it attached an e-mail.

I figured it was WLM with its upload-to-Onedrive feature (if the user
configures WLM to connect to the user's Hotmail/Live/Outlook.com)
account. That doesn't involve compression, too?

Thanks for the alert on the compression dialog that appears when
"sending" an image file to an e-mail recipient. Besides Windows 7, is
this feature also incorporate to Windows 8 (and maybe Windows 10)?

VanguardLH wrote:

Thanks for the alert on the compression dialog that appears when
"sending" an image file to an e-mail recipient. Besides Windows 7, is
this feature also incorporate to Windows 8 (and maybe Windows 10)?

I just tried it with Win8. Got a popup.